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16 minutes ago, The Horse With No Name said:

No. Because if the first had gone in, the game would have panned out differently. Four chances to score is more accurate.

Meh.... 

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21 minutes ago, The Original OTIB said:

Totally bossing it. We can only dream about this effort and style.  + Losing Ayling one of our dumbest moves.

Amazing what you can achieve by investing properly in coaches as well as players isn't it?

As for Ayling, all clubs will release players they shouldn't have but Ayling is currently making Lee Johnson's judgement look extremely poor

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3 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

Amazing what you can achieve by investing properly in coaches as well as players isn't it?

As for Ayling, all clubs will release players they shouldn't have but Ayling is currently making Lee Johnson's judgement look extremely poor

Ayling got moved on because SL wanted it done, because of the Cheltenham pissing incident. Nothing to do with LJs judgement 🙄

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1 minute ago, spudski said:

Ayling got moved on because SL wanted it done, because of the Cheltenham pissing incident. Nothing to do with LJs judgement 🙄

In which Ayling didn't piss, or whip his todger out. And wasn't the only one of ours on that balcony (not pissing, or flashing). If I remember correctly? 

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27 minutes ago, spudski said:

They are running with such intensity and have done all season...with apparent no tiredness. Unlike ours who are knackered and play with less intensity.

Wonder if Bielsa is giving them magic potion like they get at Juve? 

Plus they actually know what their doing with and without the ball. Just like us............................oh hang on 

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8 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

Amazing what you can achieve by investing properly in coaches as well as players isn't it?

 

It’s working out better for Leeds than their Dave Hockaday experiment, I think we can say. Or indeed their raid on Barnsley for a young, up and coming coach.

It might be worth us trying something similar, a bit of coaching class, at some point, now we've got everything else in place (we have got everything else in place, haven't we?)

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I’m at the game. Leeds high press was very effective first half as Arsenal couldn’t cope. Very reminiscent of our league cup run. 2nd half so far, Arsenal have pushed up & nullified Leeds 

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2 minutes ago, spudski said:

Ayling got moved on because SL wanted it done, because of the Cheltenham pissing incident. Nothing to do with LJs judgement 🙄

Unless you have that from SL himself I refuse to believe it. Why? Because both Flint and Pack were there too - in that infamous picture - so why weren't they dispatched?

Luke Ayling was guilty of pissed up high jinx (pun intended), nothing more. We've had players guilty of far, far worse on SL's watch - they've gone to jail ffs - who've not been sacked.

So in the absence of concrete evidence to the contrary, I'll continue to believe Ayling was sold for 2 reasons - we had an offer considered big enough for a player the manager thought he could improve upon. Neither has proved correct.  

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7 minutes ago, Moments of Pleasure said:

In which Ayling didn't piss, or whip his todger out. And wasn't the only one of ours on that balcony (not pissing, or flashing). If I remember correctly? 

They were all pissing in glasses, as it was a packed box. H&S wouldn't let anyone back in if they went out and used the toilets. Free bar organised by Wilbs Agent. Ayling got made an example of.

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3 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

Just turned this on. Having read this thread about how wonderful Leeds are I assumed they were 4-0 up.

Surely some mistake?

They should have been first half! ....Arsenal have upped their game second half ...

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1 minute ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

Unless you have that from SL himself I refuse to believe it. Why? Because both Flint and Pack were there too - in that infamous picture - so why weren't they dispatched?

Luke Ayling was guilty of pissed up high jinx (pun intended), nothing more. We've had players guilty of far, far worse on SL's watch - they've gone to jail ffs - who've not been sacked.

So in the absence of concrete evidence to the contrary, I'll continue to believe Ayling was sold for 2 reasons - we had an offer considered big enough for a player the manager thought he could improve upon. Neither has proved correct.  

From an Agent.

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1 minute ago, spudski said:

They were all pissing in glasses, as it was a packed box. H&S wouldn't let anyone back in if they went out and used the toilets. Free bar organised by Wilbs Agent. Ayling got made an example of.

Fair enough. Think we want to choose who we make an example of a little more carefully next time (like Derby). This isn't the boy scouts

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8 minutes ago, spudski said:

They were all pissing in glasses, as it was a packed box. H&S wouldn't let anyone back in if they went out and used the toilets. Free bar organised by Wilbs Agent. Ayling got made an example of.

Don't doubt your knowledge of the particulars Spud. But why not "sack" Flint or Pack then? Freeman was there too wasn't he??

Why make an example of one player for something they were all guilty of? Ayling wasn't even  the one chucking the piss overboard.

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This is an archetypal game of two halves. 

 

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38 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

Amazing what you can achieve by investing properly in coaches as well as players isn't it?

As for Ayling, all clubs will release players they shouldn't have but Ayling is currently making Lee Johnson's judgement look extremely poor

Think you'll find Ayling leaving had little to do with Johnson. Way above his pay grade.

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1 minute ago, RedRock said:

Decent watch that.

Good intensity and aggression. 

Decent ref as well. VARs shit though. 

I thought the ref was pretty poor. How the hell he let Xhaka commit foul after foul was baffling. The first time Klich committed a foul he was straight in the book.Also the kick out which was shown on VAR would have had Bailey Wright sent off..............

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2 minutes ago, CityCiderEd said:

I thought the ref was pretty poor. How the hell he let Xhaka commit foul after foul was baffling. The first time Klich committed a foul he was straight in the book.Also the kick out which was shown on VAR would have had Bailey Wright sent off..............

and banned for 6 games no doubt!

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14 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

Don't doubt your knowledge of the particulars Spud. But why not "sack" Flint or Pack then? Freeman was there too wasn't he??

Why make an example of one player for something they were all guilty of? Ayling wasn't even  the one chucking the piss overboard.

From the club's twitter, March 17 2016:

"LJ: No City players were involved in bad behaviour on that balcony. They're guilty of a bit of naivety."

Luke Ayling released a public apology, for any embarrassment caused to the club, and said: "I'm grateful for the thorough investigation into this matter made by the club, which has cleared my name of any indecent behaviour."

It was two Mk Dons players behaving "indecently." And a club sanctioned day out for our lot. 

 

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49 minutes ago, spudski said:

Ayling got moved on because SL wanted it done, because of the Cheltenham pissing incident. Nothing to do with LJs judgement 🙄

Ayling got moved on because he was more expensive to keep then mark little 

 

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7 minutes ago, WolfOfWestStreet said:

Danny Murphy needs two footing 

I assume that he is against the " felt contact so went down in the penalty area" policy!

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5 minutes ago, CityCiderEd said:

I thought the ref was pretty poor. How the hell he let Xhaka commit foul after foul was baffling. The first time Klich committed a foul he was straight in the book.Also the kick out which was shown on VAR would have had Bailey Wright sent off..............

it was Lacazette  kicked the bloke on the ground.surely that was a straight red???

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6 minutes ago, CityCiderEd said:

I thought the ref was pretty poor. How the hell he let Xhaka commit foul after foul was baffling. The first time Klich committed a foul he was straight in the book.Also the kick out which was shown on VAR would have had Bailey Wright sent off..............

It's Anthony Taylor and he's had a shocking few weeks, he's decided he's not giving any decisions at all any more. He didn't give an obvious penalty on Rashford in the Manchester derby, which VAR then awarded. Then he gave that incident in the Spurs-Chelsea game as a foul on the Spurs keeper when he nearly took the striker's head off with a high boot, again overruled by VAR. Then he was also in charge of that shambolic Liverpool-Wolves game the other day.

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1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

I think Bielsa- if not for his at times erratic nature and baggage, would be perfect at a top club.

One of the top clubs as it goes...Barcelona. His philosophy is at one with theirs IMO.

Okay fair enough, there's more too it possibly- but stylistically and philosophy wise, I say again- at one!

You’re not wrong. In fact, Bielsa’s been a huge influence on Guardiola’s managerial career and has taught Pep a lot. Google Lo Suficientemente Loco (a book on Bielsa that Pep was obsessed with). The parallels between the two are obvious.

We can only stand back and dream of having someone of that quality in charge at the Gate. 

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3 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

It's Anthony Taylor and he's had a shocking few weeks, he's decided he's not giving any decisions at all any more. He didn't give an obvious penalty on Rashford in the Manchester derby, which VAR then awarded. Then he gave that incident in the Spurs-Chelsea game as a foul on the Spurs keeper when he nearly took the striker's head off with a high boot, again overruled by VAR. Then he was also in charge of that shambolic Liverpool-Wolves game the other day.

Time for an enforced rest I think.Agree he's been bloody awful lately and making more and more ridiculous decisions or not making them at all.

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38 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

Don't doubt your knowledge of the particulars Spud. But why not "sack" Flint or Pack then? Freeman was there too wasn't he??

Why make an example of one player for something they were all guilty of? Ayling wasn't even  the one chucking the piss overboard.

Not just my knowledge...it's been all over the web.

Think Ayling was the one encouraging and got photographed. All over the papers. Didn't look good.

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1 hour ago, spudski said:

Ayling got moved on because SL wanted it done, because of the Cheltenham pissing incident. Nothing to do with LJs judgement 🙄

You are wrong regarding LJ (again) . From the horses mouth.

More publicly 

Even his ex Leeds team mate said 

The 28-year-old centre-back poked fun at Johnson saying 'Same guy who said Ayling isn't good enough for the Championship' 

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4 minutes ago, Psychopomp said:

You are wrong regarding LJ (again) . From the horses mouth.

More publicly 

Even his ex Leeds team mate said 

The 28-year-old centre-back poked fun at Johnson saying 'Same guy who said Ayling isn't good enough for the Championship' 

Wasn't the reason he was got rid of though. He's not going to come out and say they got rid because of the pissing incident. Would look really foolish. He was told to get rid of him. So you are wrong...again 😉🤣

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3 minutes ago, spudski said:

Wasn't the reason he was got rid of though. He's not going to come out and say they got rid because of the pissing incident. Would look really foolish. He was told to get rid of him. So you are wrong...again 😉🤣

LJ also said that Leeds has offered Ayling  a ‘good financial package that we couldn’t match’......

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1 minute ago, Robbored said:

LJ also said that Leeds has offered Ayling  a ‘good financial package that we couldn’t match’......

Indeed he did...everything said by LJ regarding Ayling was football related, to take it away from the real reason. It was deflected.

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1 minute ago, spudski said:

Indeed he did...everything said by LJ regarding Ayling was football related, to take it away from the real reason. It was deflected.

Of course it was deflection but most of us saw Ayling  on local news passing it up at Cheltenham races and drew our own conclusions.....

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2 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Of course it was deflection but most of us saw Ayling  on local news passing it up at Cheltenham races and drew our own conclusions.....

The recent Wilbs interview backed up what was heard at the time.

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24 minutes ago, spudski said:

Think Ayling was the one encouraging and got photographed. All over the papers. Didn't look good.

Indeed it didn't.

Perhaps the main thing I'm struggling with is this:

On SL's watch, Bradley Orr and Steve Brooker were sent to jail for violent disorder. Sent to jail! Yet wre allowed to continue with their City careers.

Luke Ayling - in your words - encouraged someone to tip some piss over a balcony. And was effectively sacked.

Go figure. 

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