mozo Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 The prospect of Liverpool at Ashton Gate and Eddie Nketiah's potential loan signing... Just at a time when the fans are losing faith/interest, and the team appear to have completely lost their mojo, boy do we need something to change the mood! Are these two developments what we need to get back on track for a play off push? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Grim Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 I'd take any positive right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honiton Tony Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 So if the team up there game for a chance to play Liverpool's under 18s that's acceptable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 I don’t being beaten, it’s the manor of defeats we’ve suffered that’s the problem, we are rolling over with little effort going in for large parts of the games that we are beaten in, West Brom defeat was a better team and city were full of effort, but millwall charlton Brentford the draw with Shrewsbury Mira totally unacceptable, sort the performances out and a lot of the negatives will naturally disappear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 I know some will disagree given their fine win over Everton, and to be honest I probably do disagree with the way we’re playing, but I’d say that this represents a really good chance of making the 5th round. Still, Shrewsbury first... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted January 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 44 minutes ago, Honiton Tony said: So if the team up there game for a chance to play Liverpool's under 18s that's acceptable Isn't it more that there will be almost 27,000 in Ashton Gate, proper atmosphere for a change, Klopp on the touchline... how could that not lift the spirits of players and fans? Then Nketiah bags the winner in front of the South Stand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devoncider Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, mozo said: Isn't it more that there will be almost 27,000 in Ashton Gate, proper atmosphere for a change, Klopp on the touchline... how could that not lift the spirits of players and fans? Then Nketiah bags the winner in front of the South Stand... This has given me the fizz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FNQ Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 Shrewsbury will be as optimistic as us... I hope the lads are fully focussed for this one first and not complacently dreaming of swapping shirts with Mane... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 hour ago, mozo said: The prospect of Liverpool at Ashton Gate and Eddie Nketiah's potential loan signing... Just at a time when the fans are losing faith/interest, and the team appear to have completely lost their mojo, boy do we need something to change the mood! Are these two developments what we need to get back on track for a play off push? Both of these happening seem unlikely at the moment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted January 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, FNQ said: Shrewsbury will be as optimistic as us... I hope the lads are fully focussed for this one first and not complacently dreaming of swapping shirts with Mane... Obviously the doomsday scenario is that Shrewsbury sign Nketiah on loan and he scores the winner to knock us out of the cup... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Monkeh said: I don’t being beaten, it’s the manor of defeats we’ve suffered that’s the problem, we are rolling over with little effort going in for large parts of the games that we are beaten in, West Brom defeat was a better team and city were full of effort, but millwall charlton Brentford the draw with Shrewsbury Mira totally unacceptable, sort the performances out and a lot of the negatives will naturally disappear In fairness, we were a goal down and then down to 10 vs Brentford from 15 mins onwards. Brentford's baseline performance is better than WBA and with 10 for 75 mins vs such a strong passing side, it was only going one way. Brentford were coasting a bit for periods but we also seemed to work hard to try and stay in the game- well to keep the score down- I thought, but the late collapse didn't surprise too much. It's hard enough vs them with 11 and at 0-0, often! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, FNQ said: Shrewsbury will be as optimistic as us... I hope the lads are fully focussed for this one first and not complacently dreaming of swapping shirts with Mane... We should focus on Wigan and nothing else, hopes and dreams come after. We are not going to win the cup and if we do end up facing Liverpool then hope some of the money we make from it is not peed up against the wall. 450 tickets sold for Wigan so far, well done to them, its p.o.d, hope for a win take a draw but prob lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 hour ago, BCFC Grim said: I'd take any positive right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: In fairness, we were a goal down and then down to 10 vs Brentford from 15 mins onwards. Brentford's baseline performance is better than WBA and with 10 for 75 mins vs such a strong passing side, it was only going one way. Brentford were coasting a bit for periods but we also seemed to work hard to try and stay in the game- well to keep the score down- I thought, but the late collapse didn't surprise too much. It's hard enough vs them with 11 and at 0-0, often! Fair comment, and me personally thought Johnson shoulders 80% of the blame for the defeat, but that’s been done to death, it’s about getting a few good performances under the belt now, that or a few games unbeaten to restore confidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 This was my first thoughts once I'd heard of the draw, we bloody well need this right now. Rightly or wrongly there is too much negativity going around at the moment. We have a fractured fan base, We as a club have had a tough season, we saw our best defender leave, Afobe got injured, we have had countless other injuries, some terrible refereeing decisions and then the very sad passing of Afobes child. We need this to have something to be excited about and to have something to look forward to, something to kick start our season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, Monkeh said: Fair comment, and me personally thought Johnson shoulders 80% of the blame for the defeat, but that’s been done to death, it’s about getting a few good performances under the belt now, that or a few games unbeaten to restore confidence I think William's shoulders 80% of the blame tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Monkeh said: I don’t being beaten, it’s the manor of defeats we’ve suffered that’s the problem, we are rolling over with little effort going in for large parts of the games that we are beaten in, West Brom defeat was a better team and city were full of effort, but millwall charlton Brentford the draw with Shrewsbury Mira totally unacceptable, sort the performances out and a lot of the negatives will naturally disappear There’s a big difference between not playing well and not putting the effort in. Im not sure you only lose 3-2 away and 2-1 against a team who have only lost 1 of their last 13 games, if you aren’t putting effort in. Of course none of us want to lose games, but it’s going to happen! Reading this forum at the moment, anyone would think we were miles adrift at the foot of the table! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, Up The City! said: This was my first thoughts once I'd heard of the draw, we bloody well need this right now. Rightly or wrongly there is too much negativity going around at the moment. We have a fractured fan base, We as a club have had a tough season, we saw our best defender leave, Afobe got injured, we have had countless other injuries, some terrible refereeing decisions and then the very sad passing of Afobes child. We need this to have something to be excited about and to have something to look forward to, something to kick start our season. I’m not sure a 7-0 home defeat is something to get too excited about, or pin our hopes of resurgence on..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Monkeh said: Fair comment, and me personally thought Johnson shoulders 80% of the blame for the defeat, but that’s been done to death, it’s about getting a few good performances under the belt now, that or a few games unbeaten to restore confidence Think Brentford a better side than us tbh- better form, better side, albeit not invincible. Hopefully things can move forward now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: There’s a big difference between not playing well and not putting the effort in. Im not sure you only lose 3-2 away and 2-1 against a team who have only lost 1 of their last 13 games, if you aren’t putting effort in. Of course none of us want to lose games, but it’s going to happen! Reading this forum at the moment, anyone would think we were miles adrift at the foot of the table! We seem to have a very paranoid fanbase. Whilst we were in the play offs our fans were terrified of dropping out if the play offs, if we go one nil up, our fans become terrified of not holding on to that lead. You can feel it all around the stadium, long gone are the days where we used to believe! The way the players play, is a reflection of the mood within the stands. We as a club have become scared of losing. You can smell the fear around the place and when that happens, it becomes harder to win. The players are terrified of making a mistake because even a simple misplaced pass draws huge groans from the crowd. Ashton Gate is not currently an enjoyable place to play football. Players are afraid to express themselves. Of course we have the whole chicken and egg scenario where fans will say if the players put the effort in then we will too but the reality is it needs a effort from both players and fans, our fans need to be less toxic and more encouraging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 13 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: There’s a big difference between not playing well and not putting the effort in. Im not sure you only lose 3-2 away and 2-1 against a team who have only lost 1 of their last 13 games, if you aren’t putting effort in. Of course none of us want to lose games, but it’s going to happen! Reading this forum at the moment, anyone would think we were miles adrift at the foot of the table! As soon as people mention “not trying” I just switch off. Lack of effort is the rarest reason in football for losing matches. Although I await some really obscure reasons now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 19 minutes ago, Up The City! said: I think William's shoulders 80% of the blame tbh. He took one for the team, had he not committed the foul, it’s almost certainly 2-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: I’m not sure a 7-0 home defeat is something to get too excited about, or pin our hopes of resurgence on..! To have a dream come true, you got to have a dream! It's the cup, the Fa Cup, a cup famous for giant killings, so whilst you may wish to look at this as a negative, If we win through then I'll be having sleepless nights from excitement, just like I did when we played United and City. Every single lower league football club dreams of hosting the European and World Champions and the Premier League elect Champions because yea we might get beat but there is that slim chance that we could cause an upset, an upset we can all tell our grand children about. I cant believe I'm even having to write this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 19 minutes ago, Up The City! said: I think William's shoulders 80% of the blame tbh. Ridiculous comment. Kalas was more at fault for that passage of play than Williams. His lack of basic ball playing talent gave Williams a split second decision to make that he got wrong. I bet you were so good at football at school that you got every split second decision in your career spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: As soon as people mention “not trying” I just switch off. Lack of effort is the rarest reason in football for losing matches. Although I await some really obscure reasons now Some find that the most logical and level headed reason for losing a game of football, is clearly that it’s Wycombe’s fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Numero Uno said: Ridiculous comment. Kalas was more at fault for that passage of play than Williams. His lack of basic ball playing talent gave Williams a split second decision to make that he got wrong. I bet you were so good at football at school that you got every split second decision in your career spot on Tbh, I'd have taken him down too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Bar BS3 said: Some find that the most logical and level headed reason for losing a game of football, is clearly that it’s Wycombe’s fault. Who on earth would think that? Can’t think of anyone that tinpot....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Numero Uno said: Ridiculous comment. Kalas was more at fault for that passage of play than Williams. His lack of basic ball playing talent gave Williams a split second decision to make that he got wrong. I bet you were so good at football at school that you got every split second decision in your career spot on Correct, but I think his comment was more about pointing out that it wasn’t 80% LJ’s fault, rather than mathematically apportioning accurate percentage of blame to Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Up The City! said: Tbh, I'd have taken him down too And got sent off too....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted January 7, 2020 Admin Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 18 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: I’m not sure a 7-0 home defeat is something to get too excited about, or pin our hopes of resurgence on..! This shouldn't happen. Liverpool play the Thursday before and the Wednesday after the FA Cup weekend, so not a chance there will be any other than fringe players in the cup match 9 minutes ago, Up The City! said: We seem to have a very paranoid fanbase. Whilst we were in the play offs our fans were terrified of dropping out if the play offs, if we go one nil up, our fans become terrified of not holding on to that lead. You can feel it all around the stadium, long gone are the days where we used to believe! The way the players play, is a reflection of the mood within the stands. We as a club have become scared of losing. You can smell the fear around the place and when that happens, it becomes harder to win. The players are terrified of making a mistake because even a simple misplaced pass draws huge groans from the crowd. Ashton Gate is not currently an enjoyable place to play football. Players are afraid to express themselves. We are no different to any other supporters around the world, we all come from different backgrounds in life to say we are all the same is wide of the mark. 2 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: Ridiculous comment. Kalas was more at fault for that passage of play than Williams. His lack of basic ball playing talent gave Williams a split second decision to make that he got wrong. I bet you were so good at football at school that you got every split second decision in your career spot on 100% this, funny how so many people wrongly point the finger at Williams 1 hour ago, mozo said: The prospect of Liverpool at Ashton Gate and Eddie Nketiah's potential loan signing... But neither guaranteed ! I'd prefer to get our arse's back in gear up at Wigan this weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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