ChippenhamRed Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Leveller said: Out of interest, just as a comparison, how would you feel if Alex Neil was sacked at Preston? They are a similar club to us, bankrolled by a billionaire, but comparatively modest spenders. They are widely admired on OTIB. They are currently one point and one place above us. But they too had a good start and are now on a poor run of form - worse than us in terms of points recently. Like ours, their fans are quite fickle. Read their forum, and you’ll find it’s very similar to OTIB. It’s not as poisonous re the manager and playing style, but there is a feeling that AN might be sacked. There is also resentment about the owner not spending more. They are not far off the playoffs, but the mood is negative. That’s how fans everywhere get after a run of poor form. We might feel PNE fans are overreacting. PNE fans - like Barnsley - might feel OTIB is overreacting. But we all seem to expect more of our own club than others do. Without doubt it’s easier to take a more measured, dispassionate view when it’s not your club. That can be a good thing, but it does also mean you might not be in full possession of the facts. On balance I’d argue that Preston are doing better than us - fractionally ahead in the table, with a substantially smaller budget. On paper that suggests they have less justification to sack their manager. But there is always nuance and context to the argument that outsiders won’t necessarily know about, that makes it harder for us to draw our own conclusions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Leveller said: Out of interest, just as a comparison, how would you feel if Alex Neil was sacked at Preston? They are a similar club to us, bankrolled by a billionaire, but comparatively modest spenders. They are widely admired on OTIB. They are currently one point and one place above us. But they too had a good start and are now on a poor run of form - worse than us in terms of points recently. Like ours, their fans are quite fickle. Read their forum, and you’ll find it’s very similar to OTIB. It’s not as poisonous re the manager and playing style, but there is a feeling that AN might be sacked. There is also resentment about the owner not spending more. They are not far off the playoffs, but the mood is negative. That’s how fans everywhere get after a run of poor form. We might feel PNE fans are overreacting. PNE fans - like Barnsley - might feel OTIB is overreacting. But we all seem to expect more of our own club than others do. That is a very good point and worth considering. I think to counter it slightly the context is important. There's certainly a small group of people who are irrational in their dislike of LJ that's more personal and beyond his abilities as a manager. Those people are largely worth ignoring because it's made up of fools like 'Thatch 35' who had a clear vendetta from the start. The larger group, who are the vast majority of LJ sceptics, are people who wonder if he's taken us as far as he can, whether he's the right man to push the squad to the next level and whether his teams are good to watch. I genuinely think there's people who'd be more keen and his management if we were 12th in the table but won more home games, lost more away games and played far more attractive football. I think the context of the views of group 2 is very important, and unless you follow them closely, we wouldn't necessarily know the deeper concerns of Preston fans in depth. It's possible they feel largely the same as group 2, I have no idea. From the outside looking in though you'd assume they'd be happy under Alex Neil; that's probably the same with fans of other clubs looking at us from the outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 On 16/01/2020 at 12:13, B1ackbird said: Alot of their fans hate his guts and have very long memories, I mean, Sunderland fans have never forgiven Coventry from all those years ago.. That was a total stitch up TBH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 On 16/01/2020 at 12:27, BS3_RED said: "for whom you can flip a coin as to whether his next 10 league games yield two points or 28." The best description of the championship I have ever read. Corrected that for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS3_RED Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 16 hours ago, Port Said Red said: Corrected that for you. Not really though is it generally speaking. This year has been a little weird but LJ has done this throughout his career as manager in both League 1 and Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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