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Major Isewater

How to do it Pearson style .

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Listen to any Watford player speak about the changes their new boss has made and it sounds simple - discipline, clarity, respect. But that is precisely the point. Pearson's message is a simple one; clear, laser-focused and all the more powerful for it.
 

Have a nosey on the BBC site the article is very interesting.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/51105166

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Another one who wasn’t deemed good enough for our club by the wise ones on here - what he’s done for Watford already is nothing short of incredible 

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Clarity is the siginificant word.

Watford are playing to their strengths.

Does anyone believe that our players receive clear instruction?

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7 minutes ago, Xiled said:

Clarity is the siginificant word.

Watford are playing to their strengths.

Does anyone believe that our players receive clear instruction?

No

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2 minutes ago, Xiled said:

Clarity is the siginificant word.

Watford are playing to their strengths.

Does anyone believe that our players receive clear instruction?

No idea. Nobody has an idea until a player says otherwise. Apart from that, it's compete guesswork. 

Just because the players aren't performing, doesn't mean LJ isn't giving a clear message. It could be anything. Maybe the players are having an internal rift? Just because they are all smiles for the camera, it means nothing.

What happens on that side of the football club, us mortals (not Frozen Robin) have absolutely no idea whats going on. It's complete guesswork, conspiracy theories and fantasy. Does anyone know what Pato put in that WhatsApp group? Could that have been a trigger for some internal problem that has started a slump? The dates match up I think. Could be anything, absolutely anything.

 

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13 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

Listen to any Watford player speak about the changes their new boss has made and it sounds simple - discipline, clarity, respect. But that is precisely the point. Pearson's message is a simple one; clear, laser-focused and all the more powerful for it.
 

Have a nosey on the BBC site the article is very interesting.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/51105166

Interesting one NP, because we can all imagine him on the training ground or in the dressing room being very clear what he wants, yet he sometimes talks a load of shit in interviews.  He’s admitted that he had media training, so take him out of his football comfort zone and he can sound a bit of a bluffer at times.  Good manager though.

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9 minutes ago, Xiled said:

Clarity is the siginificant word.

Watford are playing to their strengths.

Does anyone believe that our players receive clear instruction?

I can imagine our coaching team delivering instructions by Microsoft excel. 

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15 minutes ago, Badger08 said:

No idea. Nobody has an idea until a player says otherwise. Apart from that, it's compete guesswork. 

Just because the players aren't performing, doesn't mean LJ isn't giving a clear message. It could be anything. Maybe the players are having an internal rift? Just because they are all smiles for the camera, it means nothing.

What happens on that side of the football club, us mortals (not Frozen Robin) have absolutely no idea whats going on. It's complete guesswork, conspiracy theories and fantasy. Does anyone know what Pato put in that WhatsApp group? Could that have been a trigger for some internal problem that has started a slump? The dates match up I think. Could be anything, absolutely anything.

 

Then its the job of the Manager/Head Coach/ Owner to sort it out, whatever it is .

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1 hour ago, oldstandrobin said:

Then its the job of the Manager/Head Coach/ Owner to sort it out, whatever it is .

You say that, but if people are arguing, people are arguing.  He isn't jesus. People are people, if personalities don't fit, they don't fit no matter how much due diligence you do. 
Anyway, pointless having a discussion about it as its all a bit fantasy. 

Fingers crossed for saturday, 3 points and a playoff spot.  I get the feeling this on one of LJ's most important games as Bristol City manager, and the pressure is coming from the fans.  

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9 minutes ago, Badger08 said:

You say that, but if people are arguing, people are arguing.  He isn't jesus. People are people, if personalities don't fit, they don't fit no matter how much due diligence you do. 
Anyway, pointless having a discussion about it as its all a bit fantasy. 

Fingers crossed for saturday, 3 points and a playoff spot.  I get the feeling this on one of LJ's most important games as Bristol City manager, and the pressure is coming from the fans.  

:laugh: "He isn't jesus" 

I'm enjoy the deflection gymnastics some fans do to avoid any potential blame being on LJ. Keep it up 

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2 hours ago, Badger08 said:

No idea. Nobody has an idea until a player says otherwise. Apart from that, it's compete guesswork. 

Just because the players aren't performing, doesn't mean LJ isn't giving a clear message. It could be anything. Maybe the players are having an internal rift? Just because they are all smiles for the camera, it means nothing.

What happens on that side of the football club, us mortals (not Frozen Robin) have absolutely no idea whats going on. It's complete guesswork, conspiracy theories and fantasy. Does anyone know what Pato put in that WhatsApp group? Could that have been a trigger for some internal problem that has started a slump? The dates match up I think. Could be anything, absolutely anything.

 

What’s the Paterson WhatsApp story? I think I’ve missed that one. 

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2 hours ago, Major Isewater said:

Listen to any Watford player speak about the changes their new boss has made and it sounds simple - discipline, clarity, respect. But that is precisely the point. Pearson's message is a simple one; clear, laser-focused and all the more powerful for it.
 

Have a nosey on the BBC site the article is very interesting.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/51105166

There’s no way Lansdown would hire a Pearson style manager.  No way Pedro. 

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2 hours ago, Xiled said:

Clarity is the siginificant word.

Watford are playing to their strengths.

Does anyone believe that our players receive clear instruction?

Oh they recieve clear instructions no doubt about that, they just recieve far too many clear instructions, that's the problem.

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17 minutes ago, Harry said:

What’s the Paterson WhatsApp story? I think I’ve missed that one. 

Apparently Pato dropped something into, or said something bad in a WhatsApp group. That's why he got dropped and shipped out to Derby. 

 

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22 minutes ago, Harry said:

What’s the Paterson WhatsApp story? I think I’ve missed that one. 

We are waiting for Jason and Bryn to spill the beans.

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23 minutes ago, Harry said:

What’s the Paterson WhatsApp story? I think I’ve missed that one. 

It was a joke about the play offs, but LJ missed it. 

That was awful i'm sorry. I wont return to this thread 

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2 hours ago, Badger08 said:

No idea. Nobody has an idea until a player says otherwise. Apart from that, it's compete guesswork. 

Just because the players aren't performing, doesn't mean LJ isn't giving a clear message. It could be anything. Maybe the players are having an internal rift? Just because they are all smiles for the camera, it means nothing.

What happens on that side of the football club, us mortals (not Frozen Robin) have absolutely no idea whats going on. It's complete guesswork, conspiracy theories and fantasy. Does anyone know what Pato put in that WhatsApp group? Could that have been a trigger for some internal problem that has started a slump? The dates match up I think. Could be anything, absolutely anything.

 

I think the evidence that we definitely have would point towards a lack of clarity:

  • Constant formation changes
  • Regular team/squad changes
  • Pre-match tactic changes (pressing or posession or passing game or longball...)
  • Playing to negate the opposition's strengths rather than attempting to impose our style of play
  • Wholesale changes during a match (usually when we're chasing the game)
  • Humerous but often bizarre post-match explanations for what went wrong
  • Signing players who are "for the future" but immediately become first team regulars
  • Signing first team players who drift so far out of contention we forget that they were signed
  • The regular use of our "identity" - something that literally nobody who has watched us play this season can describe

So if you accept any of the above, give me some resons why you think he would he would offer clarity to the players.

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1 minute ago, Xiled said:

I think the evidence that we definitely have would point towards a lack of clarity:

  • Constant formation changes
  • Regular team/squad changes
  • Pre-match tactic changes (pressing or posession or passing game or longball...)
  • Playing to negate the opposition's strengths rather than attempting to impose our style of play
  • Wholesale changes during a match (usually when we're chasing the game)
  • Humerous but often bizarre post-match explanations for what went wrong
  • Signing players who are "for the future" but immediately become first team regulars
  • Signing first team players who drift so far out of contention we forget that they were signed
  • The regular use of our "identity" - something that literally nobody who has watched us play this season can describe

So if you accept any of the above, give me some resons why you think he would he would offer clarity to the players.

Can't argue with that to be fair. 

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1 minute ago, Badger08 said:

Can't argue with that to be fair. 

😄 

I'm in a mood because I'm not expecting a great showing against Barnsley!! Pre-match tension 😉

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3 minutes ago, Xiled said:

😄 

I'm in a mood because I'm not expecting a great showing against Barnsley!! Pre-match tension 😉

I think he's got it in the locker.  Maybe I like an underdog and don't like the way some of our own fans turn nasty. 
 

Anyway, here to a great showing vs Barnsley. YOU REDS

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53 minutes ago, Badger08 said:

You say that, but if people are arguing, people are arguing.  He isn't jesus. People are people, if personalities don't fit, they don't fit no matter how much due diligence you do. 
Anyway, pointless having a discussion about it as its all a bit fantasy. 

Fingers crossed for saturday, 3 points and a playoff spot.  I get the feeling this on one of LJ's most important games as Bristol City manager, and the pressure is coming from the fans.  

Badger 08, of course it is, we are the ones from cradle to grave who support and pay our money to Bristol City FC and time after time we are fed BS from the people in Ivory Towers who run our beloved club, for Gods sake, myself for example have been watching them for 62 + years and once or twice in my life  I have been rewarded for my commitment to them, not Arsenal, not Man Utd. I get sick of being bought drinks on holiday from well meaning people who when we talk football, I tell them who I support and they say Bristol City................nice little club !!! I want to see a club that achieves not bloody well just talks about it and a Head Coach that blames everything but himself . I want to see WINNERS.

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3 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

Another one who wasn’t deemed good enough for our club by the wise ones on here - what he’s done for Watford already is nothing short of incredible 

He’s done well so far . A long way to go 

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3 minutes ago, shelts said:

He’s done well so far . A long way to go 

Your right but he is heading in the right direction unlike our chauffeur who is going round in circles and is clueless as to which route to take.

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1 minute ago, The Joker said:

Your right but he is heading in the right direction unlike our chauffeur who is going round in circles and is clueless as to which route to take.

I don’t disagree. Clear instructions from no nonsense Pearson .  LJ is a master tactician mind !!!

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3 hours ago, Badger08 said:

Does anyone know what Pato put in that WhatsApp group? Could that have been a trigger for some internal problem that has started a slump? The dates match up I think. Could be anything, absolutely anything.

 

If that were the case, I’d be very concerned about the mentality and mental strength the coaching staff are instilling in grown men if a dodgy whats app post has affected them to that extent over the past 5 months. 
 

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18 minutes ago, RedRaw said:

If that were the case, I’d be very concerned about the mentality and mental strength the coaching staff are instilling in grown men if a dodgy whats app post has affected them to that extent over the past 5 months. 
 

Depends  what was said and the fall out from it I guess.  I'm just spitballing though mate, I have no idea.  I know the Pato thing is correct. 

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I think Pearson is far more astute than many give him credit for. He did lots of the groundwork that helped Leicester in 15/16. 

He really reminds me of Cotterill in many ways. Slightly mad, but has a deep understanding of the game.

What I wonder with him - a bit like Cotterill - is whether that approach to management can work over the longer term of several seasons. I think if it unravels, those sorts of blood and thunder managers seem to have more exacerbated problems with player fall outs etc and public dissent.

I think for a failing club who look in free-fall - a back to basics approach with a clear game-plan can do wonders as we're seeing with Watford.

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1 hour ago, oldstandrobin said:

Badger 08, of course it is, we are the ones from cradle to grave who support and pay our money to Bristol City FC and time after time we are fed BS from the people in Ivory Towers who run our beloved club, for Gods sake, myself for example have been watching them for 62 + years and once or twice in my life  I have been rewarded for my commitment to them, not Arsenal, not Man Utd. I get sick of being bought drinks on holiday from well meaning people who when we talk football, I tell them who I support and they say Bristol City................nice little club !!! I want to see a club that achieves not bloody well just talks about it and a Head Coach that blames everything but himself . I want to see WINNERS.

I’d like to see us win something too, but remember that every year in the Championship 21 out of 24 clubs win nothing.  I do agree with you however, although I’m about five years short of your stint as a City fan, that it would be good to see some success while I’ve still got most of me faculties intact.

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5 hours ago, Badger08 said:

No idea. Nobody has an idea until a player says otherwise. Apart from that, it's compete guesswork. 

Just because the players aren't performing, doesn't mean LJ isn't giving a clear message. It could be anything. Maybe the players are having an internal rift? Just because they are all smiles for the camera, it means nothing.

What happens on that side of the football club, us mortals (not Frozen Robin) have absolutely no idea whats going on. It's complete guesswork, conspiracy theories and fantasy. Does anyone know what Pato put in that WhatsApp group? Could that have been a trigger for some internal problem that has started a slump? The dates match up I think. Could be anything, absolutely anything.

 

What group was that?

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39 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said:

I’d like to see us win something too, but remember that every year in the Championship 21 out of 24 clubs win nothing.  I do agree with you however, although I’m about five years short of your stint as a City fan, that it would be good to see some success while I’ve still got most of me faculties intact.

That's what frightens me DP, the thought of being in a chair in the nursing home at the age of 98 and the matron tells a visitor ' thats oldstandrobin over there dribbling and muttering Johnson Out, I haven't the heart to tell him they have at last got into the Premiership and that 10 years ago, the top ten teams in the Premiership joined the European League '   :ill::city:😂

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1 hour ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said:

I’d like to see us win something too, but remember that every year in the Championship 21 out of 24 clubs win nothing.  I do agree with you however, although I’m about five years short of your stint as a City fan, that it would be good to see some success while I’ve still got most of me faculties intact.

It's 40 years now, with one valid effort at getting back to the top. One in 40 seasons! That's poor. 

It's not like we're Burton Albion or Rotherham at this level.

That said, SL has built a platform for us at this level now, from which a capable coach, given a bit of luck with injuries, should be able to get us into the play-offs, where we then have a shot at glory.

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5 hours ago, CyderInACan said:

There’s no way Lansdown would hire a Pearson style manager.  No way Pedro. 

Unfortunately this is true mate and signals that Premiership football will never come to Ashton Gate under Lansdown

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2 hours ago, Bob Thompson said:

How many clubs has he been with?

That's his business :laugh:

A good manager that knows what he is doing, but I'm not keen on his personality much.

Nearly always stroppy with people unnecessarily so , a bit of a bully etc

That said, he has been successful so it clearly works.

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