Redtucks Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 1 hour ago, AshtonGreat said: I really don't rate Weimann. Does naff all most of the time Runs his socks off every game, constantly presses the opposition and is joint top scorer. Other than that he does naff all. ???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, Redtucks said: Runs his socks off every game, constantly presses the opposition and is joint top scorer. Other than that he does naff all. ???????? Heads the odd one off the line to keep us 0-0 First to chase back and help out Sets a few up Scores a few Works harder than probably any other 3 or 4 lumped together other than that ..........nothing Why does ‘What did the Romans ever do for us.......’ spring to mind ! An International and ex- prem player with no ego ‘I shouldn’t be in Championship’ A proper team player and a managers dream in many respects Hes not Messi , but I bet any poster managing or running a side would realise how much they value a Weimann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1t_ref_again Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 the effort and fitness of the guy is unbelievable, on 88 minutes he sprinted 50 yards to close down the left back and prevent the ball going forward. Prefer when he plays in the middle, but just gets on with whatever he is asked to do for the team, model pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Heads the odd one off the line to keep us 0-0 First to chase back and help out Sets a few up Scores a few Works harder than probably any other 3 or 4 lumped together other than that ..........nothing Why does ‘What did the Romans ever do for us.......’ spring to mind ! An International and ex- prem player with no ego ‘I shouldn’t be in Championship’ A proper team player and a managers dream in many respects Hes not Messi , but I bet any poster managing or running a side would realise how much they value a Weimann Don’t waste your time you’ll get Carpal Tunnel. The anti Weimann crowd never see anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 48 minutes ago, RedDave said: 3 v 1 he ain’t gonna cover all the spaces We could go on all night about who was “at fault” but what I do know is that our midfield was a shambles from a defensive perspective today. Paterson on the other hand did his job from an attacking point of view, wanted the ball, demanded the ball and kept it moving. That pass to Eliasson first half was superb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 1 hour ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Weimman ‘4’ Jesus wept Don’t think I’ll bother reading any further Not a 4 by any means but thought he was largely ineffective today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Heads the odd one off the line to keep us 0-0 First to chase back and help out Sets a few up Scores a few Works harder than probably any other 3 or 4 lumped together other than that ..........nothing Why does ‘What did the Romans ever do for us.......’ spring to mind ! An International and ex- prem player with no ego ‘I shouldn’t be in Championship’ A proper team player and a managers dream in many respects Hes not Messi , but I bet any poster managing or running a side would realise how much they value a Weimann Totally agree with all that but when he’s below par there’s no harm in hooking him now and again!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, REDOXO said: Don’t waste your time you’ll get Carpal Tunnel. The anti Weimann crowd never see anything. It’s the old adage A match between 11 marines with limited ability v. 11 jugglers with little workrate Who wins ? You need both but you wouldn’t lose many games with 11 x Weimmans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 Weimann runs a lot but it doesnt matter to some that he produces sod all! Bizarre. Him and Hunt are poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 My ratings:- (6 is a player earning his wages for having a decent game) Bentley 6 - fine save in first half, but ponderous with the ball at feet or in hand at the mo’. Did the job I expected today. Hunt 6 - bit mixed, a couple of great balls down the right in first half and looked like he was asked to play narrower alongside Williams today, meaning there was a bit of space down their left. Williams 7 - much more like it. Great block with Bentley beaten in second half. Defended with heart and experience against a very willing Chaplin. Baker 7 (would be a 7.5 but I don’t do halves) - love someone’s comment - he’s a rock made of glass - but he’s been our best defender this season, and was very solid today both on the deck and in the air. Dasilva 7 - sneaked a 7 for the run and cross that led to the goal. Still feeling his way back, but he is getting better. Defensively sound. Smith 6 - snuffed out a lot of stuff (good) but ponderous on the ball (bad). Another probably not fully at the races following injuries. Brownhill 4 - just poor, as poor as I’ve seen him. Looked heavy legged when actually staying on his feet. Offered nothing today with the ball, and left Korey exposed without it. Weimann 6 - ran his nuts off today, starting RW in a 4231 and then in a 4141 before up front for final 5 mins in 442. Linked well with Hunt today, unlucky with blocked far post volley, and lovely pull back for Fam to blaze over. Paterson 8 - probably our best player, in the hole initially, in his old 17/18 position for most of the match, and if anyone deserved to be on the pitch and contribute to the winner it was him. Hope it’s not a typical Pato false-dawn, but he really looks “on it”. Great cross on the run with his left peg for Weimann’s volley. Eliasson 6 - I know he got the winner, but he was pretty ineffective today against their RB Williams. Missed a really good chance and showed composure for the winner. He was a 5 for me without the goal. Diedhiou 8 - led the line well, and his desire was great today. Got into scoring positions, and gave his markers a tough old game today, which is the minimum. Got the crowd going too. Probably our best player of late overall. Sub: O’Dowda - no rating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, MC RISK77 said: Not a 4 by any means but thought he was largely ineffective today Our live wire and biggest threat for most of first half , until he was pushed wide right , and his ‘ugly work’ (Which many simply don’t ‘see’) was as usual excellent Sometimes not the most composed , at the vital moment but we’d look a much poorer side without him IMHO, especially when we are having to scrap Regularly sacrifices himself for the team As I said a managers dream in many respects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 9 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: Totally agree with all that but when he’s below par there’s no harm in hooking him now and again!! Of course My concern when hooking him in tight games / games still in a balance losing his energy , workrate and his defensive work 6 minutes ago, Super said: Weimann runs a lot but it doesnt matter to some that he produces sod all! Bizarre. Him and Hunt are poor. What complete and utter nonsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 14 minutes ago, Davefevs said: My ratings:- (6 is a player earning his wages for having a decent game) Bentley 6 - fine save in first half, but ponderous with the ball at feet or in hand at the mo’. Did the job I expected today. Hunt 6 - bit mixed, a couple of great balls down the right in first half and looked like he was asked to play narrower alongside Williams today, meaning there was a bit of space down their left. Williams 7 - much more like it. Great block with Bentley beaten in second half. Defended with heart and experience against a very willing Chaplin. Baker 7 (would be a 7.5 but I don’t do halves) - love someone’s comment - he’s a rock made of glass - but he’s been our best defender this season, and was very solid today both on the deck and in the air. Dasilva 7 - sneaked a 7 for the run and cross that led to the goal. Still feeling his way back, but he is getting better. Defensively sound. Smith 6 - snuffed out a lot of stuff (good) but ponderous on the ball (bad). Another probably not fully at the races following injuries. Brownhill 4 - just poor, as poor as I’ve seen him. Looked heavy legged when actually staying on his feet. Offered nothing today with the ball, and left Korey exposed without it. Weimann 6 - ran his nuts off today, starting RW in a 4231 and then in a 4141 before up front for final 5 mins in 442. Linked well with Hunt today, unlucky with blocked far post volley, and lovely pull back for Fam to blaze over. Paterson 8 - probably our best player, in the hole initially, in his old 17/18 position for most of the match, and if anyone deserved to be on the pitch and contribute to the winner it was him. Hope it’s not a typical Pato false-dawn, but he really looks “on it”. Great cross on the run with his left peg for Weimann’s volley. Eliasson 6 - I know he got the winner, but he was pretty ineffective today against their RB Williams. Missed a really good chance and showed composure for the winner. He was a 5 for me without the goal. Diedhiou 8 - led the line well, and his desire was great today. Got into scoring positions, and gave his markers a tough old game today, which is the minimum. Got the crowd going too. Probably our best player of late overall. Sub: O’Dowda - no rating. Good marks and explanations Dave only things I’d add is JD’s great run , similar to the goal, and slip to Paterson (Great cross) created Elliassons Missed sitter And Barnsley doubled up from minute one on Elliasson which made it extremely tough for him , but it also created space on the opposite flank , hence why nearly all our opportunities were created from space on the other side And Weimann,s Great header off the line stopped us going behind (He was also in trouble and limping for some minutes later as Bentley landed on his ankle / foot , yet got himself going and as usual ran his heart out for the rest of the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 8 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Of course My concern when hooking him in tight games / games still in a balance losing his energy , workrate and his defensive work What complete and utter nonsense What did he produce? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, Super said: What did he produce? So are you talking today now, or generally ? Were you at the game today ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: So are you talking today now, or generally ? Were you at the game today ? Yes and apart from running a lot he produced nothing. Im amazed this is good enough for some fans tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, Super said: What did he produce? Fam’s chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 16 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Our live wire and biggest threat for most of first half , until he was pushed wide right , and his ‘ugly work’ (Which many simply don’t ‘see’) was as usual excellent Sometimes not the most composed , at the vital moment but we’d look a much poorer side without him IMHO, especially when we are having to scrap Regularly sacrifices himself for the team As I said a managers dream in many respects Agree work rate is always excellent... interesting I thought he was wide all game, I didn’t know what formation we started with tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie BCFC Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Numero Uno said: Bentley 7 Hunt 6 Williams 7 Baker 5 Dasilva 6 Paterson 9 Smith 5 Brownhill 4 Elliasson 6 Fammy 6 Weimann 4 Very harsh, thought Baker and Dasilva were our two best players and Smith aswell did very well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Davefevs said: Fam’s chance. Thought that was NE cross? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Super said: Thought that was NE cross? Well that’s the first mistake It was Weimann with a threaded ball at perfect weight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 Baker and Korey our best players imo. Diedhiou did ok but should have kept over that chance. Weimann poor again for me. Doesn't seem to suit being wide right or up there with Fam. Maybe drop him and see what someone else brings. Brownhill very poor. He looks slower, weaker and off balance. Don't know what has happened to him recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, Super said: Yes and apart from running a lot he produced nothing. Im amazed this is good enough for some fans tbh. Yes - which and I’ll answer Youve already proved that your judgement is flawed as if it’s today , he created one of our very best chances , ...just as a starter And I’ll ask you a question What do you think is Lees ask of him and expectation/ role from him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, MC RISK77 said: Agree work rate is always excellent... interesting I thought he was wide all game, I didn’t know what formation we started with tbh You may be right but I thought he initially partnered Famara , had a short spell almost in a old fashioned inside right role and then seemed to be overtly wide in a midfield 4/5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Yes - which and I’ll answer Youve already proved that your judgement is flawed as if it’s today , he created one of our very best chances , ...just as a starter And I’ll ask you a question What do you think is Lees ask of him and expectation/ role from him To run about a lot. You obviously see something in him i dont. All about opinions though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: You may be right but I thought he initially partnered Famara , had a short spell almost in a old fashioned inside right role and then seemed to be overtly wide in a midfield 4/5 Not old enough to know what an inside right is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, Super said: To run about a lot. Okay - if that’s the level of your debate , I’ll let you get back to the Liverpool forum 2018 Lee ‘Look I’ve signed you to ‘run about a lot, ....is that ok Andi Today pre match Lee ‘Andi , run around a lot....ok ‘ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 1 minute ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Okay - if that’s the level of your debate , I’ll let you get back to the Liverpool forum Embarrassing last comment Bob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl&Toby Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 28 minutes ago, Davefevs said: My ratings:- (6 is a player earning his wages for having a decent game) Bentley 6 - fine save in first half, but ponderous with the ball at feet or in hand at the mo’. Did the job I expected today. Hunt 6 - bit mixed, a couple of great balls down the right in first half and looked like he was asked to play narrower alongside Williams today, meaning there was a bit of space down their left. Williams 7 - much more like it. Great block with Bentley beaten in second half. Defended with heart and experience against a very willing Chaplin. Baker 7 (would be a 7.5 but I don’t do halves) - love someone’s comment - he’s a rock made of glass - but he’s been our best defender this season, and was very solid today both on the deck and in the air. Dasilva 7 - sneaked a 7 for the run and cross that led to the goal. Still feeling his way back, but he is getting better. Defensively sound. Smith 6 - snuffed out a lot of stuff (good) but ponderous on the ball (bad). Another probably not fully at the races following injuries. Brownhill 4 - just poor, as poor as I’ve seen him. Looked heavy legged when actually staying on his feet. Offered nothing today with the ball, and left Korey exposed without it. Weimann 6 - ran his nuts off today, starting RW in a 4231 and then in a 4141 before up front for final 5 mins in 442. Linked well with Hunt today, unlucky with blocked far post volley, and lovely pull back for Fam to blaze over. Paterson 8 - probably our best player, in the hole initially, in his old 17/18 position for most of the match, and if anyone deserved to be on the pitch and contribute to the winner it was him. Hope it’s not a typical Pato false-dawn, but he really looks “on it”. Great cross on the run with his left peg for Weimann’s volley. Eliasson 6 - I know he got the winner, but he was pretty ineffective today against their RB Williams. Missed a really good chance and showed composure for the winner. He was a 5 for me without the goal. Diedhiou 8 - led the line well, and his desire was great today. Got into scoring positions, and gave his markers a tough old game today, which is the minimum. Got the crowd going too. Probably our best player of late overall. Sub: O’Dowda - no rating. No way Mr Fevs was Fammy an 8. He might have done all you say but the thing is he didn’t score. His trademark attempted and failed bicycle kick says it all for me. He’s a trier and god loves them but to my mind he simply isn’t good enough as a centre forward. Agree about AW and with what @BobBobSuperBob has said. Again AW might not score but what he does, he does well. Overall though it was another poor performance. Wins like this whilst we’d all “take them” simply mask how poor we are. And sadly I don’t see that changing. 28 minutes ago, Davefevs said: My ratings:- (6 is a player earning his wages for having a decent game) Bentley 6 - fine save in first half, but ponderous with the ball at feet or in hand at the mo’. Did the job I expected today. Hunt 6 - bit mixed, a couple of great balls down the right in first half and looked like he was asked to play narrower alongside Williams today, meaning there was a bit of space down their left. Williams 7 - much more like it. Great block with Bentley beaten in second half. Defended with heart and experience against a very willing Chaplin. Baker 7 (would be a 7.5 but I don’t do halves) - love someone’s comment - he’s a rock made of glass - but he’s been our best defender this season, and was very solid today both on the deck and in the air. Dasilva 7 - sneaked a 7 for the run and cross that led to the goal. Still feeling his way back, but he is getting better. Defensively sound. Smith 6 - snuffed out a lot of stuff (good) but ponderous on the ball (bad). Another probably not fully at the races following injuries. Brownhill 4 - just poor, as poor as I’ve seen him. Looked heavy legged when actually staying on his feet. Offered nothing today with the ball, and left Korey exposed without it. Weimann 6 - ran his nuts off today, starting RW in a 4231 and then in a 4141 before up front for final 5 mins in 442. Linked well with Hunt today, unlucky with blocked far post volley, and lovely pull back for Fam to blaze over. Paterson 8 - probably our best player, in the hole initially, in his old 17/18 position for most of the match, and if anyone deserved to be on the pitch and contribute to the winner it was him. Hope it’s not a typical Pato false-dawn, but he really looks “on it”. Great cross on the run with his left peg for Weimann’s volley. Eliasson 6 - I know he got the winner, but he was pretty ineffective today against their RB Williams. Missed a really good chance and showed composure for the winner. He was a 5 for me without the goal. Diedhiou 8 - led the line well, and his desire was great today. Got into scoring positions, and gave his markers a tough old game today, which is the minimum. Got the crowd going too. Probably our best player of late overall. Sub: O’Dowda - no rating. No way Mr Fevs was Fammy an 8. He might have done all you say but the thing is he didn’t score. His trademark attempted and failed bicycle kick says it all for me. He’s a trier and god loves them but to my mind he simply isn’t good enough as a centre forward. Agree about AW and with what @BobBobSuperBob has said. Again AW might not score but what he does, he does well. Overall though it was another poor performance. Wins like this whilst we’d all “take them” simply mask how poor we are. And sadly I don’t see that changing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, Super said: Embarrassing last comment Bob. I’d reflect on your ‘To run around a lot’ comment and your level of understanding of what he may , or may not provide It deserved my retort , and is likely very accurate Im not LJs greatest fan - but do you seriously think he’s his first name on teamsheet because he just ‘runs around a lot’ Thats what I call embarrassing (Nice late Edit to your post ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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