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7 hours ago, Leveller said:

So, while waiting to see if Nketiah would sign, presumably we should have signed a couple of other strikers as insurance? Much less risky and only a couple of extra salaries if our top target had arrived!

Obviously not. We should have set a deadline that gave us time to complete another signing and walked away at that point. We also should have started negotiating those other signings ahead of that deadline. And having been made mugs of once we shouldn't have gone back for Nketiah this month at all. This is all fairly basic stuff.

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8 hours ago, Up The City! said:

I think it's getting to the point now that we are maybe thinking if Afobe can come back around march time that maybe we can just keep on going as we are until he returns. 

He has an ACL injury, it would be naive to put our eggs in the “Afobe can change our season when he is back” basket.

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8 hours ago, Up The City! said:

 

If Afobe hadn't of got injured I dont think its unrealistic to think we would have a few more points on the board and that would see us in the play offs and knocking on the door of the top 2.

Not wildly unrealistic, no, but it is unrealistic. It is a thought emerging from your imagination, and therefore not reality.

You will recall how Weimann started last season, then dried up for months on end. If Weimann had got injured in early September last season, many on here would be saying exactly the same as you are saying about Afobe and this season. As @mozo remreminds us, above.

Like so much with football and Bristol City, we just do not know, and are left to make educated or not so educated guesses.

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1 hour ago, Moments of Pleasure said:

Not wildly unrealistic, no, but it is unrealistic. It is a thought emerging from your imagination, and therefore not reality.

You will recall how Weimann started last season, then dried up for months on end. If Weimann had got injured in early September last season, many on here would be saying exactly the same as you are saying about Afobe and this season. As @mozo remreminds us, above.

Like so much with football and Bristol City, we just do not know, and are left to make educated or not so educated guesses.

LJ and Afobe himself have said it looks like he may be back before the end of the season, nothing has been said recently tho. So I'm only repeating what they have said and I'm speculating that IF he will be back around March time, we may just soldier on without him until then.

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14 hours ago, Boston Red said:

We weren't.

All through the summer 2019 transfer window, everyone knew we needed a striker.

We hung on desperately for Nketiah until the last minute.

He went to Leeds.

The clock was running down.

We were seriously desperate.

We turned to Benik Afobe.

There was a reason we hadn't signed him earlier.

A reason Stoke were prepared to get rid of him.

A reason no-one else had signed him.

Because he was injury prone.

Guess what?

He got injured.

It is not some cruel twist of fate that has unexpectedly struck Bristol City Football Club and wiped out our season. It is what happens when you sign injury prone players. They get injured. It was our own bad planning and our own poor activity in the summer transfer window that led us to place all our hope in an injury prone player in a desperation last minute signing. Yes, Afobe looked good for us, and it was a cruel blow. But we should not have been placing our entire season's hopes on him.

Also, the Kasey Palmer-Benik Afobe link up play is becoming seriously exaggerated on here. People are making it sound like Dalglish-Rush, or Lineker-Beardsley. Afobe scored three goals for us, and none of them were assisted by Palmer (1 Weimann v QPR, 1 Rowe v Hull penalty, 1 Hunt v Hull). Yes, Palmer played Afobe through for three one on ones v Birmingham, which he all missed. But I think the opposition would have got wise to it as the season progressed. 

Yes, Afobe was looking like a great signing, and yes, we are missing him. But we should never have been placing all our hopes in one injury prone striker signed at the last minute. 

Will the club learn from its mistakes and sign a proper striker in January? We watch and wait. 

 

 

 

 

Oh, I see..... we were actually LUCKY he got injured then

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15 hours ago, Boston Red said:

We weren't.

All through the summer 2019 transfer window, everyone knew we needed a striker.

We hung on desperately for Nketiah until the last minute.

He went to Leeds.

The clock was running down.

We were seriously desperate.

We turned to Benik Afobe.

There was a reason we hadn't signed him earlier.

A reason Stoke were prepared to get rid of him.

A reason no-one else had signed him.

Because he was injury prone.

Guess what?

He got injured.

It is not some cruel twist of fate that has unexpectedly struck Bristol City Football Club and wiped out our season. It is what happens when you sign injury prone players. They get injured. It was our own bad planning and our own poor activity in the summer transfer window that led us to place all our hope in an injury prone player in a desperation last minute signing. Yes, Afobe looked good for us, and it was a cruel blow. But we should not have been placing our entire season's hopes on him.

Also, the Kasey Palmer-Benik Afobe link up play is becoming seriously exaggerated on here. People are making it sound like Dalglish-Rush, or Lineker-Beardsley. Afobe scored three goals for us, and none of them were assisted by Palmer (1 Weimann v QPR, 1 Rowe v Hull penalty, 1 Hunt v Hull). Yes, Palmer played Afobe through for three one on ones v Birmingham, which he all missed. But I think the opposition would have got wise to it as the season progressed. 

Yes, Afobe was looking like a great signing, and yes, we are missing him. But we should never have been placing all our hopes in one injury prone striker signed at the last minute. 

Will the club learn from its mistakes and sign a proper striker in January? We watch and wait. 

 

 

 

 

I'll tell you what we WERE unlucky with...

 

YOU, deciding to spew an absolute load of lady gaga at us!

 

We WERE unlucky that he got injured in that way, HE was unlucky he got injured in that way.

 

Maybe LJ should've discussed this with you, I'm sure you had more than a feeling it wasn't going to work out.

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15 hours ago, ChippenhamRed said:

176 appearances since 2015 (49 goals).

Played 46 games for Stoke since joining them in 2018.

Not exactly Darren Anderton is he. Your “injury prone” claim is easily dismissed with some quick analysis.

We were unlucky.

Well, he'd had 2 previous serious injuries.

He was out for over 6 months soon after making his debut for Arsenal and a further 8 month lay off after an injury sustained while on loan at Millwall.

Having said that he's amassed almost 300 career appearances, so while he tends to have a serious injury that causes him to miss more or less a full season every few years he seems to be reliably fit inbetween.

You could call this season's injury unlucky for City, or the continuation of 'regular' misfortune for the player, either way he does have a history of serious injuries that no doubt the club took into account when signing him.

They must have felt, probably quite rightly, there was no extra likelihood of him being seriously injured while with us, and it's certainly unfortunate all round that hasn't been the case, but his career history certainly must have given them food for thought he was perhaps more prone to a bad injury than the average signing.

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11 hours ago, Leveller said:

So, while waiting to see if Nketiah would sign, presumably we should have signed a couple of other strikers as insurance? Much less risky and only a couple of extra salaries if our top target had arrived!

And the same people complain about squad bloat. The petulance and immaturity of the OP is staggering

oh and we were unlucky, just saying

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As others have said, he'd had two serious injuries before but no serious injuries in seven years. He'd struggle with form in recent seasons but I can't see any evidence he is injury prone. The fact he got his first serious injury in seven years is undoubtedly bad luck and we were unlucky with Afobe's injury.

I also think today we've been unlucky with threads from posters trying to rewrite the past in order to make tenuous points but that is a whole other discussion. 

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