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Bar BS3

JOHNSON OUT!

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5 minutes ago, Sleepy1968 said:

@spudski I read Football Hackers on the kindle (I couldn't really see the diagrams or tables very well) and it really shines a light on how complex the modern game has become. I challenge anyone to read it and not come away with a greater respect for those involved at the top end of our game. It was probably you or @Davefevs that mentioned the book in the first place.

It's ridiculous these days.

Especially signing a player. Contracts are nuts. Everything is so complex.

It boils my piss when I read some posts on here and the little understanding of how football and sport in general has moved on.

To put it into context...players are expected to perform and need to perform week in, week out in the same way as an Olympian who has four years to train for one week.

The miles run and intensity with energy run by a player these days is so far removed from years past. Players are literally on their knees at the end of a game....and to reach peak performance for the next game only have a few days to recover...unlike an Olympian or sports person who has weeks or months between competition.

Players are now like race horses...it's that complex. 

That's just the playing side.

Everything is now fine lines...and trying to find that edge.

What's even maddening...on this winning streak we aren't really doing anything much different to our losing streak. It's that fine. We aren't being outplayed and we aren't outplaying anyone. Such fine lines.

 

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3 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said:

To be fair we've had to put up with snidey, cock-sure nonsense from you and others for weeks about how LJ is useless, incompetent, he's lost the dressing room, "anyone could do a better job" etc

Forums and social media are ridiculously reactionary, and whilst I don't particularly approve of the OP, you are guilty of the exact same thing as all the crap you posted a few weeks ago has been proven to be absolute BS in a very short space of time. 

The difference is, when we lose people post about their dissatisfaction with city's manager Lee Johnson and their belief he isnt the right man for the job. Which is what a fan forum is for - discussing all things city

When we win, a few people put personal attacks towards those for disagreeing with them. Chats like this are personal attacks on those who arent fans of LJ with the intention of further dividing fans and winding up those who arent fans of the manager. 

I am happy to be proven wrong about Johnson and against my previous perceptions he seems to be turning things around and has rebuilt belief within the team. Results are promising. 

However, as a paying fan I've largely been dissatisfied with the poor quality entertainment I've paid my hard earned cash to watch for most of the season. This doesn't change league position or not 

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48 minutes ago, Sleepy1968 said:

@spudski I read Football Hackers on the kindle (I couldn't really see the diagrams or tables very well) and it really shines a light on how complex the modern game has become. I challenge anyone to read it and not come away with a greater respect for those involved at the top end of our game. It was probably you or @Davefevs that mentioned the book in the first place.

Wasn’t me, but I’ll take a look at it.

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I'll just leave this here on this thread;

Form: Last 6 matches (HOME AND AWAY)

    GP W D L GF GA GD Pts
1 Bristol City 6 5 0 1 8 4 +4 15
2 Derby County 6 4 1 1 13 7 +6 13
3 Fulham 6 4 1 1 7 4 +3 13
4 Millwall 6 3 2 1 8 4 +4 11
5 Nottm Forest 6 3 2 1 10 7 +3 11
6 Brentford 6 3 1 2 12 4 +8 10
7 Stoke City 6 3 1 2 8 7 +1 10
8 Middlesbrough 6 2 3 1 8 5 +3 9
9 Swansea City 6 2 3 1 4 4 0 9
10 Wigan Athletic 6 3 0 3 7 8 -1 9
11 Cardiff City 6 2 3 1 7 10 -3 9
12 Blackburn 6 2 2 2 12 8 +4 8
13 Birmingham City 6 2 2 2 12 12 0 8
14 Preston 6 2 2 2 7 7 0 8
15 Leeds Utd 6 2 1 3 9 11 -2 7
16 Huddersfield 6 2 1 3 9 12 -3 7
17 QP Rangers 6 2 0 4 10 9 +1 6
18 Reading 6 1 3 2 5 7 -2 6
19 Hull City 6 2 0 4 5 10 -5 6
20 Charlton 6 1 2 3 6 8 -2 5
21 West Brom 6 1 2 3 6 8 -2 5
22 Barnsley 6 1 1 4 4 9 -5 4
23 Sheffield Wed 6 1 1 4 4 10 -6 4
24 Luton Town 6 1 0 5 6 15 -9 3

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6 hours ago, Bar BS3 said:

Hopefully not needed anytime soon, but can those that regularly feel the need to attract attention by posting such drivel, because we’ve lost a few games, please add all posts to this thread and let the rest of us get on with supporting the team..?

 

If we don’t finish top 6, feel free to grumble on here. 

There are already a dozen or more threads with the same or similar title.

What makes yours so special?

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Psychologically, it is much much harder to go from bad to good, than to go the other way. Fact!

Meaning, those that made their minds up from the start or previously that LJ was not good enough (bad) have a much more difficult time changing their minds to deciding he is actually ok or even better than that (good) than those that go from thinking a manager/coach is good at first but then later is poor and needs to be sacked.

And the mental task of those now faced with going from LJ bad to LJ good is made harder still by threads like this, and the many posters itching to remind them of their getting wrong, their fickleness and so on so forth.

That being said, some of those that have laid into LJ on here also bring some of this upon themselves, with the way they address those that have backed LJ during the poor streaks.

Both camps feed of each other.

The worst of LJ - and there has been some club record breaking "bad" during his time here - has been sufficiently negative to make it difficult now for many to be sure that the positive evident right now cannot fully be trusted or supported. Doubt and suspicion lingers on.

 

 

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7 hours ago, bcfc01 said:

I'll just leave this here on this thread;

Form: Last 6 matches (HOME AND AWAY)

    GP W D L GF GA GD Pts
1 Bristol City 6 5 0 1 8 4 +4 15
2 Derby County 6 4 1 1 13 7 +6 13
3 Fulham 6 4 1 1 7 4 +3 13
4 Millwall 6 3 2 1 8 4 +4 11
5 Nottm Forest 6 3 2 1 10 7 +3 11
6 Brentford 6 3 1 2 12 4 +8 10
7 Stoke City 6 3 1 2 8 7 +1 10
8 Middlesbrough 6 2 3 1 8 5 +3 9
9 Swansea City 6 2 3 1 4 4 0 9
10 Wigan Athletic 6 3 0 3 7 8 -1 9
11 Cardiff City 6 2 3 1 7 10 -3 9
12 Blackburn 6 2 2 2 12 8 +4 8
13 Birmingham City 6 2 2 2 12 12 0 8
14 Preston 6 2 2 2 7 7 0 8
15 Leeds Utd 6 2 1 3 9 11 -2 7
16 Huddersfield 6 2 1 3 9 12 -3 7
17 QP Rangers 6 2 0 4 10 9 +1 6
18 Reading 6 1 3 2 5 7 -2 6
19 Hull City 6 2 0 4 5 10 -5 6
20 Charlton 6 1 2 3 6 8 -2 5
21 West Brom 6 1 2 3 6 8 -2 5
22 Barnsley 6 1 1 4 4 9 -5 4
23 Sheffield Wed 6 1 1 4 4 10 -6 4
24 Luton Town 6 1 0 5 6 15 -9 3

Based on last 8 games from Soccerstats which includes part of bad run. Still good:

Form table (last 8 matches)

    GP W D L GF GA GD Pts
1 Nottm Forest 8 5 2 1 13 7 +6 17
2 Fulham 8 5 2 1 12 8 +4 17
3 Middlesbrough 8 4 3 1 11 6 +5 15
4 Bristol City 8 5 0 3 10 8 +2 15
5 Brentford 8 4 2 2 16 6 +10 14
6 Derby County 8 4 2 2 14 11 +3 14
7 Stoke City 8 4 1 3 12 11 +1 13
8 Millwall 8 3 3 2 10 7 +3 12
9 Reading 8 3 3 2 8 7 +1 12
10 Swansea City 8 3 3 2 6 7 -1 12
11 Wigan Athletic 8 3 2 3 8 9 -1 11
12 Cardiff City 8 2 5 1 8 11 -3 11
13 Blackburn 8 2 4 2 13 9 +4 10
14 Preston 8 2 4 2 8 8 0 10
15 Huddersfield 8 3 1 4 11 14 -3 10
16 Charlton 8 2 3 3 11 12 -1 9
17 Birmingham City 8 2 3 3 13 16 -3 9
18 Hull City 8 3 0 5 8 12 -4 9
19 Leeds Utd 8 2 2 4 11 14 -3 8
20 Barnsley 8 2 2 4 7 11 -4 8
21 QP Rangers 8 2 1 5 12 12 0 7
22 West Brom 8 1 4 3 8 10 -2 7
23 Sheffield Wed 8 2 1 5 7 13 -6 7
24 Luton Town 8 1 1 6 9 19 -10 4

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8 hours ago, havanatopia said:

There are already a dozen or more threads with the same or similar title.

What makes yours so special?

Nothing whatsoever. I hadn’t bothered to read the rest yet. 

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