Shtanley Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 Episode #90 of the One Stream in Bristol podcast went out last night. With Oscar and Gregor MacGregor alongside me, we discuss everything that has happened in the last week. It's longer than normal but there really was lots to talk about. As always we're keen to hear people's thoughts on the topics discussed! Listen on iTunes/apple podcasts Listen via Libsyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 Looking forward to listening later! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 Spoiler alert... I was pleased to hear Gregor suggesting that Massengo is being touted to start more games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 Your podcast, my podcast. Very funny episode especially the little bit about Geoff Two Zero Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 What's the best podcast app that I can listen to this on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunc Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 26 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: What's the best podcast app that I can listen to this on? If you've got an iPhone there's a purple 'Podcasts' app auto-installed. Wang the name in the search in there and hit subscribe and it'll download whenever a new episode is out. Looking forward to listening to this one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 50 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: What's the best podcast app that I can listen to this on? I use Castbox on android Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 31 minutes ago, Dunc said: If you've got an iPhone there's a purple 'Podcasts' app auto-installed. Wang the name in the search in there and hit subscribe and it'll download whenever a new episode is out. Looking forward to listening to this one! 8 minutes ago, mozo said: I use Castbox on android I have an android, thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elhombrecito Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said: What's the best podcast app that I can listen to this on? I use Pocket Casts, but they all essentially do the same thing. Just a case of finding the one that works best for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsince1994 Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, elhombrecito said: I use Pocket Casts, but they all essentially do the same thing. Just a case of finding the one that works best for you. Yeah I use Player FM and does the same as all the others and works great. Honestly don't think it will make too much of a difference, relatively simple app so not much to go wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderheadTJ Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 Good listen as ever @Shtanley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 Gregor is quietly quite funny isn't he. Enjoyable listen as always. The bit from @Shtanley on xG - probably a pretty fair assessment. If you take our xG and divided it by the number of shots then you get a pretty high value. So basically our average shot is of good quality. Marry that with the fact we've the second lowest number and percentage of shots from outside the box in the championship and you get a pretty clear picture of Johnson's attitude to long shots - don't bloody try them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 Listened on the way up and back to Swindon today. @Shtanley Good threesome, worked well. I hate the “Big Dave” reference too. And it was me re the best headed goal tweet!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristolCity1992 Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 I use Acast and it probably does the same as all the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted February 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: Gregor is quietly quite funny isn't he. Enjoyable listen as always. The bit from @Shtanley on xG - probably a pretty fair assessment. If you take our xG and divided it by the number of shots then you get a pretty high value. So basically our average shot is of good quality. Marry that with the fact we've the second lowest number and percentage of shots from outside the box in the championship and you get a pretty clear picture of Johnson's attitude to long shots - don't bloody try them! That digger gashead quip has had me laughing all day Does xG take into account how the ball was moving before it was struck? Or how fast the shot goes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 8 minutes ago, Shtanley said: Does xG take into account how the ball was moving before it was struck? Or how fast the shot goes? Depends which xG stats you use. Expensive and sophisticated ones such as Opta, wyscout, or stats that the club will use - yes probably and to an extent. Cheap free ones online - unlikely. Does xG account for spin, grass length, how tight the players laces are, what boot he wears, or whether he waxes his legs? No not at all so far as I know. Sorry, I am actually listening right now - Interceptions: YES, this is absolutely our game. It's one reason we do worse against very slick possession based sides like Brentford and Leeds. They are just that bit better at passing around that we can't intercept quite as much as normal in midfield. That puts the pressure on the CBs to make tackles and blocks instead and so we concede. From an analysis point this is one of the best episodes ever mate. Also from a digger joke point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fairweather Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: Listened on the way up and back to Swindon today. @Shtanley Good threesome, worked well. I hate the “Big Dave” reference too. And it was me re the best headed goal tweet!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 3 hours ago, Davefevs said: Listened on the way up and back to Swindon today. @Shtanley Good threesome, worked well. I hate the “Big Dave” reference too. And it was me re the best headed goal tweet!!! I was the one, or one of the ones, that tweeted that we needed a transfer deadline special. Not sure how it would work but I think listeners would like it and something you could have fun with, maybe some gentle parodying. I also think we need a pod a game. I don't think it's too much to expect 46 pods per season, plus 10-15 specials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsince1994 Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 Here's my issue with xG. Against Reading we had a higher xG until that heroic 5 seconds of defending, which seemed to accumulate. Yes there was 3 blocks/clearances but they could only have scored 1 in that passage of play. Individual chances isn't enough of a descriptive metric for me, and seemingly Diedhou being a toe away from an Elliasson cross didn't contribute to ours? And as said we have a high conversion rate because we don't (often) shoot until a good chance is presented. Just seems like far too many unnacounted variables. (I may be talking complete rubbish as I am writing this without the xG data in front of me) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 40 minutes ago, redsince1994 said: Here's my issue with xG. Against Reading we had a higher xG until that heroic 5 seconds of defending, which seemed to accumulate. Yes there was 3 blocks/clearances but they could only have scored 1 in that passage of play. Individual chances isn't enough of a descriptive metric for me, and seemingly Diedhou being a toe away from an Elliasson cross didn't contribute to ours? And as said we have a high conversion rate because we don't (often) shoot until a good chance is presented. Just seems like far too many unnacounted variables. (I may be talking complete rubbish as I am writing this without the xG data in front of me) Good point. You can't score 3 goals from one attack, but xG believes you can? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 People use xG because they want to have opinions on games and teams they haven't watched. NTT20 podcast is generally very informative until they talk about xG. Apparently our season is about to fall apart (which they've been saying all season) due to our 'poor' xG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 2 hours ago, redsince1994 said: Here's my issue with xG. Against Reading we had a higher xG until that heroic 5 seconds of defending, which seemed to accumulate. Yes there was 3 blocks/clearances but they could only have scored 1 in that passage of play. Individual chances isn't enough of a descriptive metric for me, and seemingly Diedhou being a toe away from an Elliasson cross didn't contribute to ours? And as said we have a high conversion rate because we don't (often) shoot until a good chance is presented. Just seems like far too many unnacounted variables. (I may be talking complete rubbish as I am writing this without the xG data in front of me) 90 minutes of say 10-20 chances is not a representative sample to suggest a result should’ve gone one way or the other....when xG has been calculated from tens of thousands of chances. 34 minutes ago, RedDave said: People use xG because they want to have opinions on games and teams they haven't watched. NTT20 podcast is generally very informative until they talk about xG. Apparently our season is about to fall apart (which they've been saying all season) due to our 'poor' xG. I stopped listening. I’m sure they know infinitely more about the EFL than I do, but I find them a bit too “all knowing” if that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, Davefevs said: 90 minutes of say 10-20 chances is not a representative sample to suggest a result should’ve gone one way or the other....when xG has been calculated from tens of thousands of chances. I stopped listening. I’m sure they know infinitely more about the EFL than I do, but I find them a bit too “all knowing” if that makes sense. They are a bit yeah. Better than 'Second Tier Podcast' though! and they do have some good bits on there sometimes. Recent interview with Nigel Clough was decent. They really don't think much of us though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Londoner Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 They should invite that qpr fan on for the Leeds game as his rant about Leeds when they weren’t even playing them was hilarious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 6 hours ago, walnutroof said: They should invite that qpr fan on for the Leeds game as his rant about Leeds when they weren’t even playing them was hilarious Yeah he should be a regular guest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcredandwhite Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 18 hours ago, ExiledAjax said: Gregor is quietly quite funny isn't he. Enjoyable listen as always. The bit from @Shtanley on xG - probably a pretty fair assessment. If you take our xG and divided it by the number of shots then you get a pretty high value. So basically our average shot is of good quality. Marry that with the fact we've the second lowest number and percentage of shots from outside the box in the championship and you get a pretty clear picture of Johnson's attitude to long shots - don't bloody try them! Ah, so THATS why we sold Brownhill then! Also, why Brownhill didn't shoot from that free kick vs Reading! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshPrinceofBristol Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 Good episode Stan. On the Grime segment, I don't think it's so Brentish of Johnson to reference Too many man. It's got to be about 10 years old now, so I doubt the current players are listening to it in the changing room. I reckon Johnson used to rave to it when he was a player being the Grime 'ed that he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notbarrymanc Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 LJs only about 36. Since when is that old And why can’t old people listen to grime? We’re not all stuck at 4am in the morgue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.G.Red Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 5 hours ago, Notbarrymanc said: LJs only about 36. Since when is that old And why can’t old people listen to grime? We’re not all stuck at 4am in the morgue 39 this year. and how many young people listen to Grime?. Seems to me that it’s us Oldies that have a more eclectic taste in Music rather than some of the Young uns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestonRobin Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 Keep reading this title as DigerDiedhiou - like the Aussie Aboriginal instrument. This could be my new nickname for him...not used Dave and its much better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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