ciderwithtommy Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 Is it just me, or does Friday feel really important? A win and surely we are all buying into a big run in, pulling together, big away followings etc. defeat, could we even see more Johnson out talk? Possibly be out of the play off places and back into negativity? Feels crucial to me, maybe like Wolves home 2 years ago. Exciting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 Definitely a massive game! 4 or 6 points from these next 2 home games will have us in the top 6 going into 2 massive away games, which will determine whether we are challenging for top 2 or top 6 finish. From the next 4 games... 12pts - serious top 2 contenders 9+Pts - in with a real chance of top 2 and likely comfortably placed in top 6. 6-9pts - serious top 6 contenders 4/5 Pts - continuing a top 6 challenge less than 4 pts and we’ll be looking unlikely to secure a top 6 finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSSEL85 Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 I’m thinking the same, I know it’s just 3 points but psychologically seems much bigger, I’m more worried about extending the gap to 7th at the moment as I feel we may come a cropper against wba and Leeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chappers Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 Same as all games really, it’s form over 46 games that counts. And looking at our fixtures, we may take a lot to Forest, but Swansea looks the only quick sell out - Priority scheme needed before then!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 hour ago, ciderwithtommy said: Is it just me, or does Friday feel really important? A win and surely we are all buying into a big run in, pulling together, big away followings etc. defeat, could we even see more Johnson out talk? Possibly be out of the play off places and back into negativity? Feels crucial to me, maybe like Wolves home 2 years ago. Exciting You’re joking, you think we might get more Johnson Out nonsense, after the run and January window we’ve had? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Journalist Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 28 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: Definitely a massive game! 4 or 6 points from these next 2 home games will have us in the top 6 going into 2 massive away games, which will determine whether we are challenging for top 2 or top 6 finish. From the next 4 games... 12pts - serious top 2 contenders 9+Pts - in with a real chance of top 2 and likely comfortably placed in top 6. 6-9pts - serious top 6 contenders 4/5 Pts - continuing a top 6 challenge less than 4 pts and we’ll be looking unlikely to secure a top 6 finish. I think you’re placing way too much importance on the four games. We could easily take one point from them... and then win the next six in a row after it. Your post is exactly the methodology that gets people all hysterical (and I’m not saying this is you, by the way, as I understand your rationale!) after three or four dodgy results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 It does feel huge. Maybe it’s with it being Friday night under the lights as well but I’m really nervous/excited for this one. Friday can’t come soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 Similar to before when we got to third with two winable home games in a week to come. We lost both. We definitely need to win Friday and then not lose on Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 hour ago, ciderwithtommy said: Is it just me, or does Friday feel really important? A win and surely we are all buying into a big run in, pulling together, big away followings etc. defeat, could we even see more Johnson out talk? Possibly be out of the play off places and back into negativity? Feels crucial to me, maybe like Wolves home 2 years ago. Exciting Perennial bottlers - in all honesty it is "what we do",,,and most likely to be so. That's not the case again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 Every game is a massive game when there's hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalcub Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 43 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: You’re joking, you think we might get more Johnson Out nonsense, after the run and January window we’ve had? Lj could put together a run of 10 consecutive wins and some will still be calling for his head ..... lj=marmite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 49 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: You’re joking, you think we might get more Johnson Out nonsense, after the run and January window we’ve had? 100%. Still plenty that are connected to this football club that still don’t think LJ is the right man to take the club foward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 43 minutes ago, The Journalist said: I think you’re placing way too much importance on the four games. We could easily take one point from them... and then win the next six in a row after it. Your post is exactly the methodology that gets people all hysterical (and I’m not saying this is you, by the way, as I understand your rationale!) after three or four dodgy results. Totally disagree with you there. If we get in a bad run of results, we can't "easily" turn it around. Look at the last two seasons for evidence. 2018-19 saw us get into a great position with what 7 wins on the bounce at around this time, but when the wheels came off, we struggled to find our form again, and couldn't get the 6 or so wins needed to secure play offs. You're over simplifying things if you're saying all games are equal. There's so much nuance involved in football and the word I often come back to is momentum. You can't manufacture it, but any player will know it. When you're buzzing, you can do anything on the pitch. When you're in a rut, a simple pass is harder that it should be. Pressure. So why is Friday important? Because we need say 8 more wins to secure top 6. And we're currently on a roll. And when you're buzzing you're more likely to win games, so this represents a great opportunity to keep the roll going in the face of some, on paper, very difficult fixtures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 41 minutes ago, The Journalist said: I think you’re placing way too much importance on the four games. We could easily take one point from them... and then win the next six in a row after it. Your post is exactly the methodology that gets people all hysterical (and I’m not saying this is you, by the way, as I understand your rationale!) after three or four dodgy results. Yes, I’d agree with that. A bad run over the next 4-5 games wouldn’t finish our season - but a good run over them would have us in a wonderful & exciting position! Of course, we could win the next 4 and lose the remaining games after that..! As could anyone. Nothing is decided in February, of course, but I do think this month is a massive indicator of what we can hope for from this season, come May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, bengalcub said: Lj could put together a run of 10 consecutive wins and some will still be calling for his head ..... lj=marmite That more of an issue with those people, than with LJ himself..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 26 minutes ago, Robert the bruce said: Perennial bottlers - in all honesty it is "what we do",,,and most likely to be so. That's not the case again. I honestly don’t think we have bottled anything in recent years. Over achieving and falling short/not being able to maintain it, is very different to bottling it..! This January window has shown we are serious & things feel good right now. Continue that momentum through the next few games and who knows where it could take us, come May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 hour ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: You’re joking, you think we might get more Johnson Out nonsense, after the run and January window we’ve had? If we lose then I'd be amazed if we didn't. And then if we lost to Derby.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted February 5, 2020 Admin Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 I think there is an edge to it due to two main reasons: We are visibly back in the promotion race We have 3 exciting signings that could make an appearance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 hour ago, bengalcub said: Lj could put together a run of 10 consecutive wins and some will still be calling for his head ..... lj=marmite Marmite ? I can take it or leave it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 I reckon we need ten more wins to guarantee top six or even top two . Statistically it doesn’t matter where we get them but psychologically losing to a promotion contender sets doubts in the minds as to whether we are quite good enough and this can have an effect on the following performances. Even worse if we lose to a lower placed team with bugger all to play for . This is why this division is so tough because any team ( Wigan ) can beat any team at the top ( Leeds - snigger ) . What will count is the mental and physical strength to succeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderwithtommy Posted February 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 2 hours ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: You’re joking, you think we might get more Johnson Out nonsense, after the run and January window we’ve had? I wouldn’t agree with the sentiment, but I could see it happening. If we lose, against a team who play 120 minutes yesterday etc etc I think questions will return. This feels like a game that means more than 3 points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalcub Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 25 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: I reckon we need ten more wins to guarantee top six or even top two . Statistically it doesn’t matter where we get them but psychologically losing to a promotion contender sets doubts in the minds as to whether we are quite good enough and this can have an effect on the following performances. Even worse if we lose to a lower placed team with bugger all to play for . This is why this division is so tough because any team ( Wigan ) can beat any team at the top ( Leeds - snigger ) . What will count is the mental and physical strength to succeed. Was waiting for the "punch on the nose quote" to come out .... We will lose to some bottom sides just as we will roll over teams we on paper shouldn't one things for sure itll be exciting just hope we can sustain a promo push this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team In Keynsham Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Seneca the Younger said: Every game is a massive game when there's hope I can deal with the despair, it's the hope that kills you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weepywall Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 Think it feels more important than recent home games, on the back of 2 decent away wins, our home form is not the best and that needs to change especially for a top 2 finish, new players in the squad and after all that it's the sort of game we don't show up in !! 2-0 to Birmingham it is ☹☹ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 hour ago, phantom said: I think there is an edge to it due to two main reasons: We are visibly back in the promotion race We have 3 exciting signings that could make an appearance This. The January signings have been a right old shot in the arm for us it feels. Hopefully the players are as excited too and can translate this boost into much better home form as that will be key if we can also maintain our excellent away results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 40 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: I reckon we need ten more wins to guarantee top six or even top two . Statistically it doesn’t matter where we get them but psychologically losing to a promotion contender sets doubts in the minds as to whether we are quite good enough and this can have an effect on the following performances. Even worse if we lose to a lower placed team with bugger all to play for . This is why this division is so tough because any team ( Wigan ) can beat any team at the top ( Leeds - snigger ) . What will count is the mental and physical strength to succeed. Hopefully less than 10 wins because looking at remaining fixtures that will be a stretch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, CyderInACan said: This. The January signings have been a right old shot in the arm for us it feels. Hopefully the players are as excited too and can translate this boost into much better home form as that will be key if we can also maintain our excellent away results. Agree mate, and that's why the January window, as tricky as it is can be, can actually be crucial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 minute ago, mozo said: Hopefully less than 10 wins because looking at remaining fixtures that will be a stretch! Surely less, if we get 10 and a couple of draws that'll probably be enough for autos. 25 points most would say to get play offs. 7 wins, 4 draws, 5 defeats or something like that looks much more achievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 2 hours ago, cidercity1987 said: Surely less, if we get 10 and a couple of draws that'll probably be enough for autos. 25 points most would say to get play offs. 7 wins, 4 draws, 5 defeats or something like that looks much more achievable. Well I think we were in this exact same position last season (same position, same points??), and we won the next game. So we'd got ourselves only needing maybe 6 wins and 4 draws... We managed 4 wins and 5 draws, and watched as Derby grabbed 6th. Please not again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 6 hours ago, Bar BS3 said: Definitely a massive game! 4 or 6 points from these next 2 home games will have us in the top 6 going into 2 massive away games, which will determine whether we are challenging for top 2 or top 6 finish. From the next 4 games... 12pts - serious top 2 contenders 9+Pts - in with a real chance of top 2 and likely comfortably placed in top 6. 6-9pts - serious top 6 contenders 4/5 Pts - continuing a top 6 challenge less than 4 pts and we’ll be looking unlikely to secure a top 6 finish. Going into One massive away game and a massive home game. COYRs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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