Robbored Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, City oz said: At least GJ didn’t blame players for poor performance unlike his son You are joking right?.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Sleepy1968 said: We do a bad enough job controlling limited numbers in there (we can't cope with too many) so I don't think we could house them anywhere else. I don't think the police are insisting on anything are they. Could put them in your block of the dolman and you can spend the game explaining to them how you can't hear the PA announcements? The police insisted on the Atyeo for away fans because exiting the ground is far easier to manage them with straightforward access to Winterstoke Rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City oz Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, Robbored said: You are joking right?.............. No. LJ quoted this on the city web site . GJ would never say that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City oz Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, Robbored said: The police insisted on the Atyeo for away fans because exiting the ground is far easier to manage them with straightforward access to Winterstoke Rd. Makes sense then everyone is safe for all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Robbored said: The police insisted on the Atyeo for away fans because exiting the ground is far easier to manage them with straightforward access to Winterstoke Rd. Ok, accepted, but since there is no sensible alternative I think it's a mute point. Remember the 1980s when away fans were given seating in block A of the dolman. Christmas & Sheffield United always springs to mind. It will be just tlike that if asway fans are put anywhere else. Logistical nightmare and unsafe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galley is our king Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Robbored said: AG has been a library since the redevelopment and the police insisting that the away fans are located in the Atyeo. I agree that dour stuff served up on the pitch doesn’t help but we saw the same dour stuff under his dad and atmosphere wasn’t a problem way back then. A different manager wouldn’t make the slightest difference. The reason the away fans are in the Atyeo is down solely to the design of the redevelopment and having the three concourses linked. It could have been designed differently by adding segregation. FAN view at the time was to put the away fans in a section of the upper tier but this would have meant retrospective work. Barriers, stairs and lifts, possibly more outlets. No external fan zone. This really should have been thought through when the redevelopment was still on the computer. We would then have had 2 home ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich VFR Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 Has there not ever been a response to this chant? "No it's a football ground", "you lot can't effing read" or similar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judda Posted February 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 I know it's a standard taunt for away fans to sing but in 20+ years of season tickets I can't remember it being this quiet. Some fans messages said the atmosphere started quite good but fizzled out... the only time I heard our fans was on 40 seconds yesterday other than that nothing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 59 minutes ago, Roger Red Hat said: What an unamusing silly song it is. As is "Where's your caravan ? " really lads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, Judda said: I know it's a standard taunt for away fans to sing but in 20+ years of season tickets I can't remember it being this quiet. Some fans messages said the atmosphere started quite good but fizzled out... the only time I heard our fans was on 40 seconds yesterday other than that nothing! Where do you sit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judda Posted February 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan said: Where do you sit? E34 or Dolman A block in old money. I know that obviously it's much closer to the away fans so I will hear them more but on the odd occasion we still sound quite loud but recently I've not heard a peep from us... Birmingham weren't even that loud yesterday compared with most away fans... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 When they were under the cosh for most of the 2nd half last night I didn’t hear a peep out of the Brum fans. They were loud for about half an hour in the first half when they were on the front foot. For the last 15 minutes in the first half we were much more subdued as we waited for them to score what looked an almost inevitable 3rd goal, which would’ve been the least they deserved going into half time. To our credit I didn’t hear us loudly get on the player’s backs until half way through the second half despite consistently appearing unable to create anything that put Birmingham’s lead in danger. On that occasion the discontent was prompted by constant passing around in our own half whilst the away side sat back. My opinion. 1) Events on the pitch have a huge bearing on how loud the fans in the stands are. 2) Pretty much every clubs fans are exactly the same and we are no better or worse than the majority of other clubs supporters in this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, Judda said: E34 or Dolman A block in old money. I know that obviously it's much closer to the away fans so I will hear them more I don’t really need to say much in response to this as it’s pretty obvious that if you’re sat right next to 1800 beered up blokes, they’re going to sound louder than the 2000 beered up blokes spread out over several blocks at the other end of the ground. What I will say is, in recent years I’ve sat in the Lansdown and the Dolman (much closer to S82 than you are in fairness). From the Lansdown the ground seems quieter despite the fact you can ‘see’ things happening over in S82 (if you know what I mean?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 They also sang “your City is blue”..etc...Despite the fact that both us and Villa are ridiculously far ahead of our neighbours. Apart from that, I heard nothing from them (from E29) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 36 minutes ago, Rich VFR said: Has there not ever been a response to this chant? "No it's a football ground", "you lot can't effing read" or similar? Maybe, “Yes it’s a library...you shouldn’t be here...you bunch of thick ***ts” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 Personally I find "is there a fire drill" absolutely hilarious.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poland_exile Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 3 hours ago, Judda said: Every week the away fans sing this. Even the likes of Shrewsbury! Why is the atmosphere so bad at the gate since the redevelopment? I can only put it down to the poor football we watch at home games. Rarely entertaining. Or is the singing section in the wrong place? I am told on here they're singing but I can't normally hear them from where I sit. The only other thing I could put it down to is new fans... going from 10k to 20k attendances over the last 20 years, maybe the new generation of fans can't be arsed? I find the notion that the poor atmosphere is down to the football ridiculous - sorry, in the past there have been relegation seasons with 6,000 watching when the atmosphere has been better. The atmosphere in stadiums across Britain has gone to ****ery, and that isn't because of the football. This is not a problem exclusive to City. Every club bar none has suffered, some worse than others. Personally would put it down to several factors that eventually all intertwine and lead back to the sanitization of the sport, the stadiums, and the fan culture that once flourished around it. Worse, we've now lost an entire generation of fans who have no idea what supporting football once was. As fans, we are all to blame for this, we are all to blame for plodding to the beat of Sky's drum as they reinvent football; of not protesting as the police crush the culture; of doing bugger all when prices get jacked up; and of sucking it up as the game sells its soul. And as for the idea that rail seats are the answer, anyone who thinks that doesn't have a clue. Football is largely dead, and we sat back and watched it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 Pretty good atmosphere last night I thought until the 3rd goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedorDead BCFC Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 When I first starting going late 70’s early 80’s there was no singing section each stand had its own. Open end, old enclosure Wedlock’s and A&B blocks Dolman. Condense a section to one stand creates another away end so the noise is in one section. Or just possibly back then no one cared about swearing and people venting frustrations in singing and being boisterous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 Away fans generally sing this when the home team are behind. That's when the home fans are usually quiet and why we hear it so often at AG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-mat Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 5 hours ago, Judda said: Every week the away fans sing this. Even the likes of Shrewsbury! Why is the atmosphere so bad at the gate since the redevelopment? I can only put it down to the poor football we watch at home games. Rarely entertaining. Or is the singing section in the wrong place? I am told on here they're singing but I can't normally hear them from where I sit. The only other thing I could put it down to is new fans... going from 10k to 20k attendances over the last 20 years, maybe the new generation of fans can't be arsed? Because despite being offended when suits like Mark Ashton call us customers or talk about the "brand" our fans have become just that. More likely to moan about the "entertainment" than play their part. More likely to groan an insult every time our midfield doesn't force play than encourage the boys. All they can muster is a stifled "COYR" at a corner. It's cultural, it's modern football. Our support is crap. Football support is crap generally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded_red Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 Two seasons of utterly turgid football at Ashton Gate leads to people sitting there incredibly bored. Thought the atmosphere was decent last night, before the game as well, until it became evident that we were going to served up another game of absolute dross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewisdabaron Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 What happened to the “singers” in the other end of the South Stand that everyone was praising for singing old songs last home game? Was it just a one off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judda Posted February 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 1 hour ago, robin_unreliant said: Away fans generally sing this when the home team are behind. That's when the home fans are usually quiet and why we hear it so often at AG. They were singing it in the 1st 5 mins! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City Rocker Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 7 hours ago, Judda said: Every week the away fans sing this. Even the likes of Shrewsbury! Why is the atmosphere so bad at the gate since the redevelopment? I can only put it down to the poor football we watch at home games. Rarely entertaining. Or is the singing section in the wrong place? I am told on here they're singing but I can't normally hear them from where I sit. The only other thing I could put it down to is new fans... going from 10k to 20k attendances over the last 20 years, maybe the new generation of fans can't be arsed? Trust me the City crowd was really loud for about the first 15 minutes last night, and from the South Stand I didn't hear Birmingham at all at that stage of the game. If they did sing they were drowned out by our own. As is often the way, things quietened down after a while due to the shiteness of the game. I've just watched the match back on Sky (which wasn't much fun) and that's exactly how it came across on the telly as well. Really loud home singing early on. Pretty standard actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redandproud Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Judda said: They were singing it in the 1st 5 mins! Is that all? what about the other 85mins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 58 minutes ago, City Rocker said: Trust me the City crowd was really loud for about the first 15 minutes last night, and from the South Stand I didn't hear Birmingham at all at that stage of the game. If they did sing they were drowned out by our own. As is often the way, things quietened down after a while due to the shiteness of the game. I've just watched the match back on Sky (which wasn't much fun) and that's exactly how it came across on the telly as well. Really loud home singing early on. Pretty standard actually. It certainly isn’t standard. The first ten minutes was far louder than I have heard for months. That’s from the Atyeo end of the Lansdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 8 hours ago, Robbored said: This has been discussed/debated before and imo it’s down to the signing section being stuck in the corner of the SS. Hardly any other area of the stadium can hear them. The away fans get the Atyeo where the acoustics are far better and even a few can make more noise than the singing section, It would better if the singing section were behind the goal in the SS but that ain’t gonna happen............. why not ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 If it is indeed a library, I wonder if Johnson might consider borrowing “Entertaining at Home”, ISBN number 0847866017 Entertaining at Home: Inspirations from Celebrated Hosts https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/0847866017/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_l1UpEbM774S09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 10, 2020 Report Share Posted February 10, 2020 One more note from Friday. There seemed to be a noisy atmosphere building pre kick off but it was sadly as usual having to compete with the music- for 10 minutes, SWITCH. IT. OFF! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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