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Should we build a team around Nakhi Wells?

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Just been on the BBC website and I didn't realise quite how prolific Wells has been playing this season.

Diedhiou: 10 goals, 1 assist, 1 every 216 minutes - 48% shots on target

Weimann: 9 goals, 3 assists, 1 every 302 minutes - 41% shots on target

Afobe: 3 goals, 1 in every 143 minutes - 89% shots on target

Wells: 13 Goals, 3 Assist, 1 every 129 minutes - 60% shots on target.

Quite concerned that with Brownhill gone and Afobe injured, our next highest scorers are eliasson and Paterson with 3.

Do people think we will see a change of tactic to accommodate him? He has the same goal to minute ratio as Mitrovic, and should we have signed him I'm sure we would build a team around him.

Will johnson drop Weimann who appears shot of confidence and play wells wide? 

I've noticed diedhiou has just the single assist. Would wells up top enable more goals throughout the rest of the team? More movement up top create more space for others etc? Think diedhious recent form however has come from the reintroduction of pato to the team so could LJ play all 3?

Finally, how do other fans view Wells? Is he the best forward we've signed in the last 20/30 years? Does anyone else consider this a sign we are now considered an established top half championship team to the rest of the football world?

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The building of a team is based on pattern of play and the best players in the squad to suit that formation.

The spine of the team, Keeper, Central Defender, Central Midfield, Striking Force are the key positions

We appear to have two suitable keepers, Bentley and Maenpaa.

Central defence with any two from Williams, Baker, Kalas and Benkovic.

Central midfield is the problem area. Nobody stands out as suitable.

Up front Diedhiou and Wells.

In the spine players, one should hang the full backs, wing backs, wide midfield. Those such as Hunt, Dasilva, Paterson, Weimann, Eliasson, Palmer.

We have two problem areas IMO. Defensive full backs and central midfield.

How we can overcome this at this stage of the season is where the coaching staff come in. Three centre backs with five in midfield? Or pushing a centre half into defensive midfield? Is Henriksen the midfield answer?

Time will tell. In answer to the title if the thread. Of course Wells has to start.

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1 hour ago, City18 said:

Just been on the BBC website and I didn't realise quite how prolific Wells has been playing this season.

Diedhiou: 10 goals, 1 assist, 1 every 216 minutes - 48% shots on target

Weimann: 9 goals, 3 assists, 1 every 302 minutes - 41% shots on target

Afobe: 3 goals, 1 in every 143 minutes - 89% shots on target

Wells: 13 Goals, 3 Assist, 1 every 129 minutes - 60% shots on target.

Quite concerned that with Brownhill gone and Afobe injured, our next highest scorers are eliasson and Paterson with 3.

Do people think we will see a change of tactic to accommodate him? He has the same goal to minute ratio as Mitrovic, and should we have signed him I'm sure we would build a team around him.

Will johnson drop Weimann who appears shot of confidence and play wells wide? 

I've noticed diedhiou has just the single assist. Would wells up top enable more goals throughout the rest of the team? More movement up top create more space for others etc? Think diedhious recent form however has come from the reintroduction of pato to the team so could LJ play all 3?

Finally, how do other fans view Wells? Is he the best forward we've signed in the last 20/30 years? Does anyone else consider this a sign we are now considered an established top half championship team to the rest of the football world?

Andy Cole was the best forward we have signed in the last 30 years 

 

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Big issue is the centre midfield but Paterson back is proving a big plus due to his ability to get into pockets and goal scoring positions.

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2 minutes ago, Lez said:

Big issue is the centre midfield but Paterson back is proving a big plus due to his ability to get into pockets and goal scoring positions.

A Lee Johnson masterstroke insisting that we recall Pato .

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1 minute ago, Major Isewater said:

A Lee Johnson masterstroke insisting that we recall Pato .

:whistle2:

A Lee Johnson question mark as to whether he should have gone on loan in the first place!!

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Wells best role at previous clubs has been up top on his own. With a creative number 10 behind him.

I'm not sure Wells and Fam will be that great a partnership. You're not going to get Wells movement at it's very best alongside Fam. 

On his own or possibly alongside Weimann. Or even Afobe when he returns.

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5 minutes ago, JonDolman said:

Wells best role at previous clubs has been up top on his own. With a creative number 10 behind him.

I'm not sure Wells and Fam will be that great a partnership. You're not going to get Wells movement at it's very best alongside Fam. 

On his own or possibly alongside Weimann. Or even Afobe when he returns.

I'd go Wells with Patterson just behind. I don't think Diedhiou can really play in a 2. 

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Perhaps LJ needs to think about having an away starting 11 and a home starting 11 as surely the tactics and approach are vastly different 

Wells just on his record should start in both cases but I wonder how others would see the change in personnel to suit home and away games

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How about in the summer...

______________Bents_______________

____Kalas____Benkovic____Baker_____

Eliasson__Henriksen__Nagy____DaSilva

___________Pato/Palmer_____________

__________Wells___Afobe____________

Massengo, Weimann, Moore, Semenyo, Smozdics, Vyner, Walsh.

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6 minutes ago, spudski said:

How about in the summer...

______________Bents_______________

____Kalas____Benkovic____Baker_____

Eliasson__Henriksen__Nagy____DaSilva

___________Pato/Palmer_____________

__________Wells___Afobe____________

Massengo, Weimann, Moore, Semenyo, Smozdics, Vyner, Walsh.

Sexy, especially if we can blag 12 players past the ref 😂

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21 minutes ago, CiderHider said:

Sexy, especially if we can blag 12 players past the ref 😂

That's Pato or Palmer...hence the / 😉

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39 minutes ago, spudski said:

How about in the summer...

______________Bents_______________

____Kalas____Benkovic____Baker_____

Eliasson__Henriksen__Nagy____DaSilva

___________Pato/Palmer_____________

__________Wells___Afobe____________

Massengo, Weimann, Moore, Semenyo, Smozdics, Vyner, Walsh.

Wells and Afobe with Palmer supplying them maketh moi moist. Be interesting to see how Henriksen gets on. If he’s the DM we need, he could be great alongside a fit Nagy. I really like that lineup, quality everywhere. 
 

Caveat being we’ll never keep Benkovic, so need a replacement for him at end of season 

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1 hour ago, cidered abroad said:

The building of a team is based on pattern of play and the best players in the squad to suit that formation.

The spine of the team, Keeper, Central Defender, Central Midfield, Striking Force are the key positions

We appear to have two suitable keepers, Bentley and Maenpaa.

Central defence with any two from Williams, Baker, Kalas and Benkovic.

Central midfield is the problem area. Nobody stands out as suitable.

Up front Diedhiou and Wells.

In the spine players, one should hang the full backs, wing backs, wide midfield. Those such as Hunt, Dasilva, Paterson, Weimann, Eliasson, Palmer.

We have two problem areas IMO. Defensive full backs and central midfield.

How we can overcome this at this stage of the season is where the coaching staff come in. Three centre backs with five in midfield? Or pushing a centre half into defensive midfield? Is Henriksen the midfield answer?

Time will tell. In answer to the title if the thread. Of course Wells has to start.

Correct.

Strikers and defenders are fine 

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Looks like such a tidy player. I simply can’t believe we brought him off. It was awful game management... we just about scraped through tho thank god. 

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4 hours ago, Seneca the Younger said:

The problem is Famara doesn't have the mobility to play to our midfields strength.

And the midfield don't have the defensive capabilities to let our wingers play to Famaras strengths.

Didn't do too badly today!😅

I'll happily eat humble pie after scoring 3

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3 hours ago, deadredfred said:

Wells and Afobe with Palmer supplying them maketh moi moist. Be interesting to see how Henriksen gets on. If he’s the DM we need, he could be great alongside a fit Nagy. I really like that lineup, quality everywhere. 
 

Caveat being we’ll never keep Benkovic, so need a replacement for him at end of season 

I'd be surprised if Palmer is here next season, to be honest

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Good first start, really happy he’s got a goal early. 
Impressed with the headers that he won, for a small guy. Decent movement. Like the way that he, Diedhiou and Paterson combined. 
Reminds me of Maynard in many ways, I think he’ll be deadly alongside Afobe, although Diedhiou’s undroppable at the moment.

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1 hour ago, Fordy62 said:

Looks like such a tidy player. I simply can’t believe we brought him off. It was awful game management... we just about scraped through tho thank god. 

Jesus your a miserable ****! We won I know you’re desperate for LJ to fail but give him some credit.

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His goal tonight was sublime. He didn't just head it back across the keeper but hovered in the air and used his neck muscles to power the header home. He's another who proves you don't have to be a giant to be good in the air, if you have a good leap and good timing. Both Keegan and Owen were decent in the air, and one of the best I saw in a City shirt, Hugh McIlmoyle was around 5'10". 

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3 minutes ago, SODS_LAW said:

Jesus your a miserable ****! We won I know you’re desperate for LJ to fail but give him some credit.

I'm guessing that **** stands for chap?

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3 hours ago, spudski said:

That's Pato or Palmer...hence the / 😉

don't allow common sense to enter otib 😀

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1 hour ago, Fordy62 said:

Looks like such a tidy player. I simply can’t believe we brought him off. It was awful game management... we just about scraped through tho thank god. 

Don't agree. Johnson wanted more bodies in midfield so needed to take off a forward, Famara is better defensively and at holding the ball up. It was the logical change to make in my opinion as he wanted to see the game out.

Then again, Wells would've finished the Diedhiou chance at the end. 

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1 hour ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said:

His goal tonight was sublime. He didn't just head it back across the keeper but hovered in the air and used his neck muscles to power the header home. He's another who proves you don't have to be a giant to be good in the air, if you have a good leap and good timing. Both Keegan and Owen were decent in the air, and one of the best I saw in a City shirt, Hugh McIlmoyle was around 5'10". 

Was tremendous technique 

Only surpassed , possibly ......and I havnt seen it mentioned elsewhere JD’s perfect cushioned volley to set Wells up  (Hunts initial cross v good too) but what a brilliant bit of skill / technique by Jay

Bloody good goal 

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6 hours ago, JonDolman said:

Wells best role at previous clubs has been up top on his own. With a creative number 10 behind him.

I'm not sure Wells and Fam will be that great a partnership. You're not going to get Wells movement at it's very best alongside Fam. 

On his own or possibly alongside Weimann. Or even Afobe when he returns.

You didn’t read @Harry’s post the other day then?

At Bradford he played with James Hanson, at Huddersfield, Grant Holt and John Stead initially at Huddersfield, before recent years with the likes of Palmer and Pato.  Hugill at QPR.

What he is just a good striker with great movement (and decent finishing), who can play with different partners of different types.

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4 hours ago, Davefevs said:

You didn’t read @Harry’s post the other day then?

At Bradford he played with James Hanson, at Huddersfield, Grant Holt and John Stead initially at Huddersfield, before recent years with the likes of Palmer and Pato.  Hugill at QPR.

What he is just a good striker with great movement (and decent finishing), who can play with different partners of different types.

Hugill partnership is the reason why I thought Wells would be better on his own. As he was better when playing in a lone role than what it seemed he looked alongside Hugill.

But he can do either. And it looked last night he can with Fam. Though still early days. I was worried about fams inability to link up well with Weimann, and thought that may be a problem for Wells in Weimann's place. 

But maybe it's Weimann that was the main problem there. Wells did a much better job at it.

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6 hours ago, JonDolman said:

Hugill partnership is the reason why I thought Wells would be better on his own. As he was better when playing in a lone role than what it seemed he looked alongside Hugill.

But he can do either. And it looked last night he can with Fam. Though still early days. I was worried about fams inability to link up well with Weimann, and thought that may be a problem for Wells in Weimann's place. 

But maybe it's Weimann that was the main problem there. Wells did a much better job at it.

Based on last night I don't see why you'd want Wells as a lone striker unless we played with a number 10 just off him. He thrives off through balls and running onto knockdowns. He knows exactly where to be to take advantage of half chances and ricochets.

Players like that usually need thrive off someone like Diedhiou who will do the ugly stuff and create opportunities for Wells to exploit. Because he's relatively small he's not a typical aerial threat and he's probably more dangerous from the knock downs, fudged clearances, ricochets or loose balls that result from crosses. To maximise that opportunity you need someone to aim at like Diedhiou to occupy the defenders and cause havoc. 

Unless you change the system and play Henriksen, Paterson or Palmer just behind him as a 10 - I don't see why you'd consider him as a lone forward on his own.

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17 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

Based on last night I don't see why you'd want Wells as a lone striker unless we played with a number 10 just off him. He thrives off through balls and running onto knockdowns. He knows exactly where to be to take advantage of half chances and ricochets.

Players like that usually need thrive off someone like Diedhiou who will do the ugly stuff and create opportunities for Wells to exploit. Because he's relatively small he's not a typical aerial threat and he's probably more dangerous from the knock downs, fudged clearances, ricochets or loose balls that result from crosses. To maximise that opportunity you need someone to aim at like Diedhiou to occupy the defenders and cause havoc. 

Unless you change the system and play Henriksen, Paterson or Palmer just behind him as a 10 - I don't see why you'd consider him as a lone forward on his own.

Because Wells looks very good in the lone role with a creative number 10 in behind.

Last night is just one game. Fam and Wells looked good. But if we ever want to pass the ball better and maybe try and have a bit more control by having the extra midfielder, then it might be best to go Wells with Paterson or Palmer in behind.

Or even Henriksen like you say. Who scored plenty in that role in Holland.

Good options to have. Do we go 442 against Leeds? I'm not so sure. Tricky one for LJ. 

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12 hours ago, SODS_LAW said:

Jesus your a miserable ****! We won I know you’re desperate for LJ to fail but give him some credit.

Glad I'm not the only one who finds his posts very tedious and repetative at times.

I like a lot of what LJ does...and on the other hand I don't  like a lot of what he does! Haha

But what I do like to try to do is; praise when something is right, as well as moan a bit when something's not right.

On this occasion I can see what he was trying to do. Right or not is a matter of opinion and certainly shouldn't provoke the reaction from Fordy that it did. Any excuse eh?

 

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2 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said:

Based on last night I don't see why you'd want Wells as a lone striker unless we played with a number 10 just off him. He thrives off through balls and running onto knockdowns. He knows exactly where to be to take advantage of half chances and ricochets.

Players like that usually need thrive off someone like Diedhiou who will do the ugly stuff and create opportunities for Wells to exploit. Because he's relatively small he's not a typical aerial threat and he's probably more dangerous from the knock downs, fudged clearances, ricochets or loose balls that result from crosses. To maximise that opportunity you need someone to aim at like Diedhiou to occupy the defenders and cause havoc. 

Unless you change the system and play Henriksen, Paterson or Palmer just behind him as a 10 - I don't see why you'd consider him as a lone forward on his own.

In summary - he’s sharp, and proactive 👍🏻

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On 13/02/2020 at 00:30, BobBobSuperBob said:

Was tremendous technique 

Only surpassed , possibly ......and I havnt seen it mentioned elsewhere JD’s perfect cushioned volley to set Wells up  (Hunts initial cross v good too) but what a brilliant bit of skill / technique by Jay

Bloody good goal 

It was. A real gem - so much to admire about it.

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On 12/02/2020 at 17:47, sticks 1969 said:

Andy Cole was the best forward we have signed in the last 30 years 

 

Short memories, Abraham and Kodjia weren't bad either in worse sides.

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On 12/02/2020 at 18:02, paul_fox said:

I'd go Wells with Patterson just behind. I don't think Diedhiou can really play in a 2. 

Did you not see wells and fam link up on wednesday? 

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Steve Brooker was a very tough striker until injury did for him. Shame as I reckon he’d have become a City legend had his knee not packed up.

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