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Eastender or Parkender?

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A few of the young uns on here wont remember the good old days when both ends were standing with the Open or Park End completely uncovered. Each had thier own 'firm' with the Park End firm coming much later.

I was an Eastender and stood right in the middle of it all. There was a real mixture of ages and social variations in there. Some we clearly up for a bit of aggro and some just liked to buzz and the singing....I was in the latter camp.

I have feeling that the Park Enders were a split off from the East Enders and consisted of some of the harder members of our fan base who clearly were up for it!

Just interested to hear others memories and experiences of any of those two groups.

 

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East ender,  the Park ender ,then into the enclosure  ,then into B block,then into the Ayteo and finally back to the East end.Too many stories to tell.😇

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Oi, don't forget the "Enclosure mob" !  Had a few "differences of opinion" with away fans who thought they were safe to get all chopsy in an area full of old men and kids.....................they were wrong !

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Only migrated to the Open End once the East End was seated so my memories are fewer than some of our more wizened posters, but woah, what a great place that was. Those last couple of years of the Open End had some great moments - Cardiff unlocking the gate before getting battered, the middle pen being opened for Forest (an inflatable Mr Blobby and some Gas in the away end that got clobbered after the match!), and the game against the gas (I was in there not for the Donowa match, but the 2-1 that had hundreds locked out). Packed like sardines we were, and an absolutely belting atmosphere. The sound of our tailored version of Irene echoing around the whole ground was simply hair raising.

It's the more random games I remember most fondly though in terms of the Open End. Jacki waving goodbye to us after being sacked by Osman (who then went on to score that match only to get met by mutinous boos from us), the sack the board protests against Barnsley and... singing the Rainbow theme at one match because we were so diabolical that no-one had the heart to sing anything about city. And what a joy it was gloating in front of the away fans! I think one of the most shambolic matches I've ever witnessed was our 5-1 drubbing at Brentford, so to then relegate them on the last day of the season by whacking them 4-1 was an opportunity too good to miss. How we crowed :D Nowadays, you'd probably get a ban for doing so! 

The top corner of the Open End by the away fans was a great laugh, and although I only had a brief two or three season flirtation with it, the memories are golden. 

 

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22 minutes ago, NOTBLUE said:

East ender,  the Park ender ,then into the enclosure  ,then into B block,then into the Ayteo and finally back to the East end.Too many stories to tell.😇

This is getting abit spooky the exact same for myself think we need to meet and recall the good all days dirty necks and all

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12 minutes ago, poland_exile said:

Only migrated to the Open End once the East End was seated so my memories are fewer than some of our more wizened posters, but woah, what a great place that was. Those last couple of years of the Open End had some great moments - Cardiff unlocking the gate before getting battered, the middle pen being opened for Forest (an inflatable Mr Blobby and some Gas in the away end that got clobbered after the match!), and the game against the gas (I was in there not for the Donowa match, but the 2-1 that had hundreds locked out). Packed like sardines we were, and an absolutely belting atmosphere. The sound of our tailored version of Irene echoing around the whole ground was simply hair raising.

It's the more random games I remember most fondly though in terms of the Open End. Jacki waving goodbye to us after being sacked by Osman (who then went on to score that match only to get met by mutinous boos from us), the sack the board protests against Barnsley and... singing the Rainbow theme at one match because we were so diabolical that no-one had the heart to sing anything about city. And what a joy it was gloating in front of the away fans! I think one of the most shambolic matches I've ever witnessed was our 5-1 drubbing at Brentford, so to then relegate them on the last day of the season by whacking them 4-1 was an opportunity too good to miss. How we crowed :D Nowadays, you'd probably get a ban for doing so! 

The top corner of the Open End by the away fans was a great laugh, and although I only had a brief two or three season flirtation with it, the memories are golden. 

 

The boos he recieved after scoring were something else. It was high level hatred for sure. 

As a 9 year old at the time, I'm not even sure if my memory is correct, but I remember him instinctively running to the corner to celebrate expecting adulation, and receiving nothing but abuse back. 

A remarkable moment for how unusual something like that is. 

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East Ender (sat/stood initially on the block divide railings!) > Park End > Enclosure > Dolman B Block > Random (normally the cheapest with a decent view). 

Those were the days my friends! 

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When I first went with my Dad as a nipper, we always sat in the Dolman, before going to the Enclosure (in days before Clive netted against Pompey one memorable evening). Think I spent the first season in the Top Flight in The Enclosure and switched to the East End in the second season and remained there through the dark days until (and after) Joe Jordan took us on a wonderful season to gain promotion to Tier 2....but after that, my week in/week out obsession was cured by a move away from the Bristol/Bath area. Still follow City, but nowhere near as much as I used to, but these days, I'm afraid I've gone full circle....I've gone back to the Dolman

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14 minutes ago, The turtle said:

The boos he recieved after scoring were something else. It was high level hatred for sure. 

As a 9 year old at the time, I'm not even sure if my memory is correct, but I remember him instinctively running to the corner to celebrate expecting adulation, and receiving nothing but abuse back. 

A remarkable moment for how unusual something like that is. 

Yes, that's pretty much how I remember it as well! The atmosphere was toxic, no other word for it and I think Osman completely under-estimated our reverence of Jacki. 

I think that episode was soon followed by the Barnsley game a few weeks later were the ground went into full on mutiny. I think Barnsley raced 2-0 ahead and we basically started backing Barnsley to score. It's the first and only time I've seen City fans turn on our side like that. Dark times! 

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42 minutes ago, NOTBLUE said:

East ender,  the Park ender ,then into the enclosure  ,then into B block,then into the Ayteo and finally back to the East end.Too many stories to tell.😇

This.

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My abiding memory from the open end is the tiny segregation channel between the two sets of supporters what was it 4 foot wide and the mass snowball fight that broke out during one game, who it was against can't remember I'm sure someone will remind me.

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22 minutes ago, Banjo Island said:

This is getting abit spooky the exact same for myself think we need to meet and recall the good all days dirty necks and all

I’ve got a feeling I know quite a few of the posters on here,if not by name then by their faces.

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2 minutes ago, Nicki's soulmate said:

Same here, at least nodding acquaintances

Walking into the ground some games I think my heads going to fall off.

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5 minutes ago, NOTBLUE said:

I’ve got a feeling I know quite a few of the posters on here,if not by name then by their faces.

It's strange how things go. From the two or three years I spent on the Open End there were some legendary figures that, due to living abroad for quite a while now, that I had forgotten about only to unfortunately learn of their deaths via this page / the papers, etc.

For instance, there was a little fella me and my mates used to call 'Nutter' who turned out to be a quite legendary fan by the name of Ronnie / Para. I remember with a smile seeing him chucked down the skittle alley of the Rising Sun for some reason or other by other City (I'm led to believe this was a regular occurence! :D ). Then, another bloke we used to look up to who we knew of as Red Beard Man - turned out to be Kevin Hardiman who passed last year I think it was. As young teenagers, lads like that made a real impression and made watching City the colourful adventure it was back then. 

 

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2 minutes ago, poland_exile said:

It's strange how things go. From the two or three years I spent on the Open End there were some legendary figures that, due to living abroad for quite a while now, that I had forgotten about only to unfortunately learn of their deaths via this page / the papers, etc.

For instance, there was a little fella me and my mates used to call 'Nutter' who turned out to be a quite legendary fan by the name of Ronnie / Para. I remember with a smile seeing him chucked down the skittle alley of the Rising Sun for some reason or other by other City (I'm led to believe this was a regular occurence! :D ). Then, another bloke we used to look up to who we knew of as Red Beard Man - turned out to be Kevin Hardiman who passed last year I think it was. As young teenagers, lads like that made a real impression and made watching City the colourful adventure it was back then. 

 

Grew up with kev what a character great memories top lad

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I started in the enclosure with my grandfather at 5 or 6 yrs old. progressed to the open end for a bit but once in the east end with my older brother and his mates,never looked back.

great group I was allowed to join including onze,pete,,blokie,squeak,dibbles,chorley and more I cant remember names for. always felt safe with them after games too.all in dm's 

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2 minutes ago, Gimme Shelton said:

Always in the Park End (except if it was raining hard) 😁

Don't know why but this reminded me of the time Wayne Allison got a hat-trick against Birmingham

Can remember the bus from Weston was delayed, walked in as the game kicked off and got soaked right through stood in the open end

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3 minutes ago, phantom said:

Don't know why but this reminded me of the time Wayne Allison got a hat-trick against Birmingham

Can remember the bus from Weston was delayed, walked in as the game kicked off and got soaked right through stood in the open end

The Allison hattrick marked a rare return to the East End for me, and I remember this match vividly not so much the hattrick (though I seem to remember the goals were outstanding) but because a miserable old git tried to throttle my friend for talking too much :D 

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Best memory I have was standing in the EE watching us play Sheffield Wednesday in the snow early 80s. However, what makes this stand out was the barrage of snowballs thrown from both sides in the Park End. It wasn't a few at once hence barrage!

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23 minutes ago, poland_exile said:

It's strange how things go. From the two or three years I spent on the Open End there were some legendary figures that, due to living abroad for quite a while now, that I had forgotten about only to unfortunately learn of their deaths via this page / the papers, etc.

For instance, there was a little fella me and my mates used to call 'Nutter' who turned out to be a quite legendary fan by the name of Ronnie / Para. I remember with a smile seeing him chucked down the skittle alley of the Rising Sun for some reason or other by other City (I'm led to believe this was a regular occurence! :D ). Then, another bloke we used to look up to who we knew of as Red Beard Man - turned out to be Kevin Hardiman who passed last year I think it was. As young teenagers, lads like that made a real impression and made watching City the colourful adventure it was back then. 

 

Three of our lot,Gloucester rd crew,have sadly gone,but to be fair with their  lifestyles it wasn’t surprising.

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15 minutes ago, poland_exile said:

It's strange how things go. From the two or three years I spent on the Open End there were some legendary figures that, due to living abroad for quite a while now, that I had forgotten about only to unfortunately learn of their deaths via this page / the papers, etc.

For instance, there was a little fella me and my mates used to call 'Nutter' who turned out to be a quite legendary fan by the name of Ronnie / Para. I remember with a smile seeing him chucked down the skittle alley of the Rising Sun for some reason or other by other City (I'm led to believe this was a regular occurence! :D ). Then, another bloke we used to look up to who we knew of as Red Beard Man - turned out to be Kevin Hardiman who passed last year I think it was. As young teenagers, lads like that made a real impression and made watching City the colourful adventure it was back then. 

 

You must’ve stood in the same place as me. 
 

Was originally in the East End but moved over to the Open End in 90/91. We stood up in the top corner next to the away fans. 
Same faces every week. All superb blokes and great camaraderie. 
 

The guys you mention, Little Ronnie - what a guy! Sadly died a few years ago. 
And the ‘red beard’ man was indeed Kev (aka Springer). And yes, he sadly died in late ‘18. 

When I first went up there as an impressionable kid, Springer and his group were looked up to and respected. I felt privileged that they became good mates. 
 

The ‘bants’ with the away fans was great. Often aggressive but also often very funny. Was always much better when the middle pen was open and the away fans were only 5 yards away from us. 
 

After the East End, and then the Open End, I progressed to Dolman B, then the Williams for a couple of years next to the away fans when they were first put in the EE corner. I recall some interesting games in there vs Millwall, Stoke & Rovers!! 
 

Then back to the East End after its reopening. Then Williams for the Cotterill promotion year, then both sides of the Atyeo, then back to the East End corner and now up in the family stand. 

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East End just to the right of that enormous hole in the roof that the rain poured through like a waterfall. It always looked weird when it was chucking it down and the whole end was rammed except for a big empty space in the middle! Rare forays into the Park End, the most memorable being the night Peter Cormack scored to effectively relegate Spurs - they weren`t happy! I also recall one game v Coventry where their fans had liberated all the rolled up newspapers from the station and were setting light to them before lobbing them over the fence.

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Rarely either. 
Remember in the open end a hot bank holiday v Swindle. Gordon Owen dragging a penalty wide whilst we gazed through the millions of flying ants that had descended!

Always been a Dolman block B’er. But things arent like what they used to be, especially now we have the away fans in close proximity. Shame really!😄

 

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Just reading through these posts makes you realise what an apprenticeship/journey Ashton Gate was for many of us.

I also started out in the East End as a young kid who was skint, the old man then bought me a season ticket when in the old 1st Div for the Dolman. Was then addicted to Bristol City. He got fed up when we got relegated from Div 1, Div 2, etc, so I then went in the Parkend for a year or two until I nearly died of pneumonia one game. It used to get bloody wet and when it was backed by a Force 9 gale from the East End/Dundry hills direction, it was bloody wet and freezing cold.

Met the legendary Ricky M from Bath (also now passed - RIP Ricky) in there a few times (too many stories to tell on here about Ricky who was a well known character down AG) and then ended up in B Block Dolman for many years with him watching some great City teams. Used to love how Dolman B Block would quietly fill up prior to kickoff, the away fans would be singing there songs thinking “where are there lads?”. At 2.59pm, the whole of Dolman B Block would stand up in unison and sing “Baaaristol”. Quite often, the look on the away fans faces was one of white fear when they realised what was waiting for them post match. 

Great thing about Dolman B Block is you always had a great view of the Parkend when it kicked off!

They were brilliant days - always remember how quite often the Parkend would start a song, followed by the Dolman, then followed by the East End & Enclosure. On a big game, quite literally the whole ground would be singing.

Makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up just thinking about it here in 2020. Loved the old ground!

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17 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

East End just to the right of that enormous hole in the roof that the rain poured through like a waterfall. It always looked weird when it was chucking it down and the whole end was rammed except for a big empty space in the middle! Rare forays into the Park End, the most memorable being the night Peter Cormack scored to effectively relegate Spurs - they weren`t happy! I also recall one game v Coventry where their fans had liberated all the rolled up newspapers from the station and were setting light to them before lobbing them over the fence.

Tottenham ripped up the away end that night. They brought a load down to Bristol and and caused havoc outside. Big mob!

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I remember being in the park end for a match in the mid eighties when i saw the police come through with a suited Gentleman. The said Gentleman then served some kind of warrant in a brown envelope onto a unsuspecting City Fan. Not surprisingly the City fan was having none of it until plod intervened and server the notice for what we now know was a bailiff .

I remember the city fan shouting and moaning that it was unacceptable to be serving a warrant while he was at football and the bailiff replied "we have trying to serve this on you for weeks and you have been one step ahead until today. We knew you would be on this terrace because you never miss a match" !!

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Parkender with dad and bruv in with the away fans - when we could afford it

Dolman with dad when my own games got postponed

Long gap

Atyeo tin shed with Joe (ST)

Williams tin shed with Joe (ST)

South Stand corner with Joe (ST)

Lansdown corner / middle section with a Joe (ST)

 

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Red beard man.... struth remember him! RIP fella.

There was normally a group at the top on the pen near to the dividing fence with a guy called ‘Tank’ I recall. Loads of South Bristol lads though, so us ‘Northerners’ seemed to be few and far between on the Park End in those days. The Southmead lot, who seemed to be sizeable in the earliest East End days, appeared to have thinned out a bit or at least didn’t transfer in large numbers to the Park End.    

Also remembering Clive, who died way to young. 

 

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1 hour ago, Harry said:

You must’ve stood in the same place as me. 
 

Was originally in the East End but moved over to the Open End in 90/91. We stood up in the top corner next to the away fans. 
Same faces every week. All superb blokes and great camaraderie. 
 

The guys you mention, Little Ronnie - what a guy! Sadly died a few years ago. 
And the ‘red beard’ man was indeed Kev (aka Springer). And yes, he sadly died in late ‘18. 

When I first went up there as an impressionable kid, Springer and his group were looked up to and respected. I felt privileged that they became good mates. 
 

The ‘bants’ with the away fans was great. Often aggressive but also often very funny. Was always much better when the middle pen was open and the away fans were only 5 yards away from us. 
 

After the East End, and then the Open End, I progressed to Dolman B, then the Williams for a couple of years next to the away fans when they were first put in the EE corner. I recall some interesting games in there vs Millwall, Stoke & Rovers!! 
 

Then back to the East End after its reopening. Then Williams for the Cotterill promotion year, then both sides of the Atyeo, then back to the East End corner and now up in the family stand. 

Haha, I'd be certain I'd know you by face in that case as not only did I stand on the same spot in the Open End, after that was demolished i relocated first to B Block and then to the Williams corner by the EE!

Unfortunately, moved abroad in 2000 and that was pretty much the end for me barring my one or two trips back each season to AG. Lovely memories mind, especially of the Open End which had such a fantastic mix of older characters / terrace legends / cider monsters and us young uns. Very happy days, and it's a privilege to have caught the tail end of the terraces. 

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I started out in the Dolman with my dad when I was a young child. Then as a teenager I migrated to the East End in between those two central pillars. I loved it in there.

I only stood in the open end a couple of times for novelty value once the EE was made all seater (it was never quite the same once that happened). 

1 hour ago, CotswoldRed said:

East end. Just loved the noise off that roof. 

Absolutely. The noise in there could be incredible. 

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Getting all misty-eyed with this thread, so started skimming through the photos on the Ashton Gate Through The Ages fb page: found this corker. Not my picture, but bloody hell, it brings back memories of walking onto the terrace before a match and making the way to the top corner, craning over the fence to see if the away following was any good, the stench of stale fags, cider and last night's curry hanging thick in the air :D 

 

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1 hour ago, Agard Days Night said:

Enclosure Surge 

Never better than the Hereford S/F,absolute bedlam.

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2 hours ago, Gimme Shelton said:

Always in the Park End (except if it was raining hard) 😁

Like against Forest (2nd leg League Cup, the only bastard ticket i could get for that one  :laugh:)

 

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8 minutes ago, poland_exile said:

Getting all misty-eyed with this thread, so started skimming through the photos on the Ashton Gate Through The Ages fb page: found this corker. Not my picture, but bloody hell, it brings back memories of walking onto the terrace before a match and making the way to the top corner, craning over the fence to see if the away following was any good, the stench of stale fags, cider and last night's curry hanging thick in the air :D 

 

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A health and safety / jobsworth's wet dream!

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Mostly stood in the enclosure, next to the East End, for about my first 15 years from mid 70s until they sadly installed the seats. But I remember a few forays into the East End and the Park End on the odd occasion, which was pretty exciting. The 2-1 win over European Champions Liverpool comes to mind, my feet hardly touched the ground in that crowd.

And then for a short time around 1979/80 we formed a little teenage mod/rude boy/2Tone crew in the schoolboys enclosure.

As young kids from our position in the enclosure we could watch the shenannigans with invading cockneys or mancs trying to get on the East End, without any danger of being involved ourselves. Then a few years later we were joined on our bit of the enclosure by the CSF, which was...erm...eventful, particularly when West Ham came to visit.

 

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Of course taking off the rose tinted glasses for a moment,there were plenty of games where there weren’t many away fans,the game was crap and it rained pissistanly,happy days.

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10 minutes ago, poland_exile said:

Getting all misty-eyed with this thread, so started skimming through the photos on the Ashton Gate Through The Ages fb page: found this corker. Not my picture, but bloody hell, it brings back memories of walking onto the terrace before a match and making the way to the top corner, craning over the fence to see if the away following was any good, the stench of stale fags, cider and last night's curry hanging thick in the air :D 

 

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She’s a beauty. 
Yep, in that pic, top corner, past that last yellow gate, behind the last railing, up next to the away fans. 
I’m sure I must’ve stood next to you for a couple of seasons. 

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Sorry uf already mentioned but am sure the Parkenders used to come in the East end if they got wind of an away team mob going to take the East End. The Parkenders used to group high up just after the entrance and pile into any away fans. Think this is what happened when Spurs came into the East End....that ended up in carnage! 

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Schoolboys, enclosure (with my dad), then Crackers corner for me, especially in the first division days, before I migrated to the Dolman. Moved back across to the enclosure in the early 80's. Tried the South stand corner when it first opened but back in the Dolman now, where I'll stay. 

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5 minutes ago, Harry said:

She’s a beauty. 
Yep, in that pic, top corner, past that last yellow gate, behind the last railing, up next to the away fans. 
I’m sure I must’ve stood next to you for a couple of seasons. 

H was it you smelling of fags,cider and curry?

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4 minutes ago, Top Robin said:

Sorry uf already mentioned but am sure the Parkenders used to come in the East end if they got wind of an away team mob going to take the East End. The Parkenders used to group high up just after the entrance and pile into any away fans. Think this is what happened when Spurs came into the East End....that ended up in carnage! 

Ha ha,spot on,I Remember the Spurs fans almost begging to be let back out,too late..........

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6 minutes ago, NOTBLUE said:

H was it you smelling of fags,cider and curry?

ergh, and I recall with embarassment how many people and shirts I must have singed with my own fags when we scored :D 

I'm sure I owe damages to a few people on here :D 

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