Bristol Oil Services Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 7 minutes ago, italian dave said: All 6 against us! This league is so unfair - Leeds get to play us, twice, but don't have to play Leeds even once. Whereas we have to play Leeds twice, but don't get to play Bristol City, like, ever. What chance have we got in a league like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, Whale Eye Beef Hooked said: That’s bull s... we set up 4 at the back , 2 centre mids, Ellison, Patterson wide and 2 strikers. That’s a “have a go lineup ‘. Which u can argue is a more attacking start than Leeds’s 4-14-1 the players just didn’t perform or it’s just that we are as good as them. A bit of both I think how can you say the manager set up not to go for it. Stupid comment Can you not discuss amicably without making snide comments? Anyway, 30% possession, 1 shot on target, 3 shots in total (compared to their 21), 0 corners - that’s not ‘having a go’ imho. We sat off them all game. If you’re happy with that then fair play to you. But I feel we could’ve done better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 11 minutes ago, Whale Eye Beef Hooked said: That’s bull s... we set up 4 at the back , 2 centre mids, Ellison, Patterson wide and 2 strikers. That’s a “have a go lineup ‘. Which u can argue is a more attacking start than Leeds’s 4-14-1 Well it’s no wonder we were overrun in midfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 38 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Bad take @WolfOfWestStreet, remember how old he is. The vigours of an intensely competitive and full on league are getting to him. He comes from playing largely youth football in better weather with a winter break. All of this needs to be considered. He still has a boy's body really compared to his opponents, we probably won't see what he's really about until he's around 21+. He wasn't great today and poor against Birmingham but so were many players who are 10+ years older than he is. He obviously needs to play in a midfield 3 as he doesn't have the experience, physicality and confidence to command games. Henriksen is still getting up to match fitness. Blame Johnson for picking him if anyone, perhaps today was a game for Tommy Rowe to add a bit of steel and experience to midfield. I do agree with you but there are players ripping it up in this league younger than him. The Brum 16 year old was superb last week against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garland-sweden Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 Leeds was far better than us, to lose only with 1-0 we can thank Bentley for. Without Smith, Famara we looked pretty leighweight. Wonderboy is not the answer in midfield when we play vs better teams. Rowe instead of Wonderboy today, New game vs WBA and then we have Anette chance to win, COYR!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRFTG Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 33 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: I don’t think any 0-1 away defeat can be described as being ‘totally and comprehensively stuffed’, can it? Especially at a venue like Elland Road... Well we were. Should have been 4 down after 15 minutes, possibly 6 by half time. 7 or 8 :1 would have been a fair result. Leeds aren't that good but shredded us wide, exposed our lack of pace at the back and not for last ditch , 'throw everything at it' defending and ultra poor finishing from them we'd have been utterly spanked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 29 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Leeds United has a first team squad of 22 players ... 29 according to Wikipedia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 32 minutes ago, ashton_fan said: We must be better than that as it can't be a fluke over the whole season that we were only 3 points behind them this morning. We just don't seem to have any belief against big name teams like Leeds WBA Villa etc I can't understand it Mentality... Has been seemingly engraned into our psyche for as long as I can remember (with the exception of the Div One days) It'll have to somehow change if we're ever to get promoted out of this division. Answers on a postcard.... . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodiesaffer Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 What has change with LJ since Man City in the cup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 45 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Depends on whether you just stare at the final score as your only consideration I guess Or whether you take account of football being a game of defending as well as attacking. I’m disappointed we didn’t get something out of the game, but we went into it with a lot of problems behind the scenes, and yet still restricted Leeds to a single goal. Given that we had (apparently) a clear penalty shout turned down, and Wells fluffed a 1:1 with the keeper, I still can’t accept that we were ‘totally and comprehensively stuffed’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 12 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: 29 according to Wikipedia 22 according to Leeds United’s website : https://www.leedsunited.com/teams/first-team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRFTG Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 Any football purist would take away from today's game the conundrum that is Patrick Bamford. His movement, engagement, running, pace and touch today was exemplar; as good as it gets in this division. His conversion rate, as it has been throughout his career, woefully poor. His 'slip and turn' shortly before he went off was worth the price if admission alone and had it occurred in the Premier MOTD would be showing it on a loop for weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whale Eye Beef Hooked Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 51 minutes ago, lenred said: Can you not discuss amicably without making snide comments? Anyway, 30% possession, 1 shot on target, 3 shots in total (compared to their 21), 0 corners - that’s not ‘having a go’ imho. We sat off them all game. If you’re happy with that then fair play to you. But I feel we could’ve done better. You said the manager set up not to lose. I’m saying he set up to win with that line upbut we were outplayed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Whale Eye Beef Hooked said: You said the manager set up not to lose. I’m saying he set up to win with that line upbut we were outplayed So you think that performance (if you watched it) coupled with those stats, show a team who went for it? Your point of view which you are well entitled to. I don’t agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whale Eye Beef Hooked Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, lenred said: So you think that performance (if you watched it) coupled with those stats, show a team who went for it? Your point of view which you are well entitled to. I don’t agree. Jeez. Your still not getting it. I’ll try again, you were saying he set up to not go for it I’m saying he selected a team to go for it in a 4-4-2. That’s it Yes we were outplayed I’m not disputing that but if he SET UP to NOT go for it it would have been a 5-3-1-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banjo Red Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 Have to say it fluke of a goal miss hit shot went to one of their players 6 yards from goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, Whale Eye Beef Hooked said: Jeez. Your still not getting it. I’ll try again, you were saying he set up to not go for it I’m saying he selected a team to go for it in a 4-4-2. That’s it Yes we were outplayed I’m not disputing that but if he SET UP to NOT go for it it would have been a 5-3-1-1 ‘Jeeeeez’ you’re not ‘getting it’ either. Watching the game and and the accompanying stats are all I need. We did not go for it in any way shape or form. If you watched it and saw it differently then that’s your prerogative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 44 minutes ago, Robert the bruce said: Mentality... Has been seemingly engraned into our psyche for as long as I can remember (with the exception of the Div One days) It'll have to somehow change if we're ever to get promoted out of this division. Answers on a postcard.... . ..answers on a bedsheet will also be accepted. Already agreed that he has to the end of the season. However, I don’t reckon he’s going to ‘get out of jail’ largely down to these factors; building a lightweight midfield, having a bloated squad and no identity. I hope I’m wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whale Eye Beef Hooked Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 20 minutes ago, lenred said: ‘Jeeeeez’ you’re not ‘getting it’ either. Watching the game and and the accompanying stats are all I need. We did not go for it in any way shape or form. If you watched it and saw it differently then that’s your prerogative. What part of I’m not talking about the game do you not get , I am answering your. He did not set up to win comment so it’s about the line up, / formation it doesn’t matter your not understanding so I’ll leave it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 3 hours ago, CiderHider said: If we had drawn and teams around us won or drew we might be worse off, so in a way losing was a good thing. wtf i love Leeds now! Honestly thought you were quoting from Johnson’s post match interview for a bit then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 2 hours ago, pillred said: It's called an inferiority complex, and we seem to suffer with it quite badly. We do not want it enough!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 45 minutes ago, Whale Eye Beef Hooked said: What part of I’m not talking about the game do you not get , I am answering your. He did not set up to win comment so it’s about the line up, / formation it doesn’t matter your not understanding so I’ll leave it I understand all right. You chose to concentrate your whole initial condescending attack on me (‘bullshit’, ‘stupid’) upon one phrase of my post despite me trying to impress upon you, politely, that my point of view was based upon stats and watching the game as opposed to solely how we ‘set up’. And you chose to completely ignore the overall point of my subsequent answers to you for some reason. Appears you just want an argument based upon a few words as opposed to my overall view. My fault - I should’ve been completely clear at the start but I’ll try again. In my opinion we played negatively - despite the formation - and my eyes and the statistics back that up in my opinion. If you disagree then fine. It’s really no big deal. Enjoy your evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 20 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: Honestly thought you were quoting from Johnson’s post match interview for a bit then “....could of ...” (!!!!) “....our lack of nous...” “....I wanted to see the best version of the individuals...” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Super said: I do agree with you but there are players ripping it up in this league younger than him. The Brum 16 year old was superb last week against us. He has played out wide too which is a bit different, also a totally different build and hasn't had to acclimatise from moving countries. He does look a fantastic prospect though. Birmingham are very lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 3 hours ago, Bristol Rob said: In a division where anyone can beat anyone, we lost 1-0 to a side widely expected to be troubling the top 2 at the beginning of the season in a stadium we haven't won at since 1979 ... Factually correct yet a little misleading? We didn’t play a league game at Elland Road between 1979 and 2010 ... a bit like saying we haven’t lost at Chelsea since 1977 ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whale Eye Beef Hooked Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 1 hour ago, lenred said: I understand all right. You chose to concentrate your whole initial condescending attack on me (‘bullshit’, ‘stupid’) upon one phrase of my post despite me trying to impress upon you, politely, that my point of view was based upon stats and watching the game as opposed to solely how we ‘set up’. And you chose to completely ignore the overall point of my subsequent answers to you for some reason. Appears you just want an argument based upon a few words as opposed to my overall view. My fault - I should’ve been completely clear at the start but I’ll try again. In my opinion we played negatively - despite the formation - and my eyes and the statistics back that up in my opinion. If you disagree then fine. It’s really no big deal. Enjoy your evening. Apologies if I offended you. I get wound up with some of the crap on here after a loss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPAZZA Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 3 hours ago, BRISTOL86 said: 29 according to Wikipedia LOADS of those (8) are actually youth players with 0-4 appearances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, Whale Eye Beef Hooked said: Apologies if I offended you. I get wound up with some of the crap on here after a loss Cheers and no worries at all. I’m no shrinking violet myself and happy to have honest words (!) and appreciate feelings run high, but didn’t think it warranted it - this time anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 31 minutes ago, SPAZZA said: LOADS of those (8) are actually youth players with 0-4 appearances. And 3 of our 26 squad on Wikipedia are similarly not serious firs team contenders...so maybe the reality isn't we have pretty similar size squads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 3 hours ago, Bodiesaffer said: What has change with LJ since Man City in the cup? He had the media fawning all over him back then - maybe he got caught up in the hype and believed he was something special? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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