La Plage Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 Ah I completely understand where we are going wrong, the players don’t coach themselves well enough during the games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meh Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 Oh god- I take it that is this weeks excuse? As opposed to starting weak tacklers in midfield positions and a centre back at right back and handing the advantage to the opposition from the start which would fall on the coaching team. Interesting !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Grim Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 God forbid he takes any responsibility himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The dastardly red Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 There's only so much a manager can do is what he was saying. On another note, someone texted Twentyman using my name earlier. Not impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 It’s a strange one isn’t it. When I saw Weimann go left wing, I assumed it was to create an extra man in midfield (451 or similar), yet Pato went up alongside Wells. Had I been out there today I would’ve been telling Weimann or Pato - “just sit in for 5-10, let’s just get the midfield back, or at least get solid”. But that can come from direction from the sideline or the pitch. Can’t believe we stayed 442 for an hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 Modern players seem to be all too keen to avoid responsibility for their performances, often encouraged by fans. Should they not be able to think for themselves when they are on the pitch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, The dastardly red said: There's only so much a manager can do is what he was saying. On another note, someone texted Twentyman using my name earlier. Not impressed. Wasn’t Meghan was it ? #Goneofftheroyalrails Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 Lj was big upping Benkcovic yesterday, stating he was the closest type of player to Webster we had, how great he was at bringing the ball out of defence, how good his passing stats were, what an advantage it was to have that kind of height in the side..............and then leaves him on the bench for the entire game? I get that it's all about choices, but i would have definitely played him instead of Baker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, maxjak said: Lj was big upping Benkcovic yesterday, stating he was the closest type of player to Webster we had, how great he was at bringing the ball out of defence, how good his passing stats were, what an advantage it was to have that kind of height in the side..............and then leaves him on the bench for the entire game? I get that it's all about choices, but i would have definitely played him instead of Baker. Stated he has a calf injury so not available to start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The dastardly red Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, maxjak said: Lj was big upping Benkcovic yesterday, stating he was the closest type of player to Webster we had, how great he was at bringing the ball out of defence, how good his passing stats were, what an advantage it was to have that kind of height in the side..............and then leaves him on the bench for the entire game? I get that it's all about choices, but i would have definitely played him instead of Baker. He also said he was slightly injured Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norn Iron Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, maxjak said: Lj was big upping Benkcovic yesterday, stating he was the closest type of player to Webster we had, how great he was at bringing the ball out of defence, how good his passing stats were, what an advantage it was to have that kind of height in the side..............and then leaves him on the bench for the entire game? I get that it's all about choices, but i would have definitely played him instead of Baker. Turns out he had a calf injury so wasn't fully fit. Weimann was promptly sick after being subbed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Dicks Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 Leave Johnson alone, he's a fantastic coach, sets out his teams well, his substitutions are always inspired, has given us a real identity on the pitch. West Brom next week, can't wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 Don’t like how he singles out a couple players in his post match presser. Done it again tonight. They are a collective. Should be praised and criticised together, if necessary. If you’ve got issues with individuals, then do it in private. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Lew-T said: Don’t like how he singles out a couple players in his post match presser. Done it again tonight. They are a collective. Should be praised and criticised together, if necessary. If you’ve got issues with individuals, then do it in private. Didn’t hear the interview so won’t judge whether that’s the case. All I will say is start criticising individuals in the media and the whole squad will end up throwing you under the bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 21 minutes ago, Alan Dicks said: Leave Johnson alone, he's a fantastic coach, sets out his teams well, his substitutions are always inspired, has given us a real identity on the pitch. West Brom next week, can't wait. Where were you after Derby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 7 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: Didn’t hear the interview so won’t judge whether that’s the case. All I will say is start criticising individuals in the media and the whole squad will end up throwing you under the bus. In fairness it wasn’t as bad as I thought after hearing it a second time. But he said along the lines that 6 or 7 players came out second half and showed guts. Then at the end he said a couple of them didn’t believe in themselves enough. Just don’t think it’s necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 45 minutes ago, BCFC Grim said: God forbid he takes any responsibility himself. Very few, if any managers accept responsibility for a defeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 17 minutes ago, Lew-T said: Don’t like how he singles out a couple players in his post match presser. Done it again tonight. They are a collective. Should be praised and criticised together, if necessary. If you’ve got issues with individuals, then do it in private. I worry about another streak every time he starts doing that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 17 minutes ago, Lew-T said: Don’t like how he singles out a couple players in his post match presser. Done it again tonight. They are a collective. Should be praised and criticised together, if necessary. If you’ve got issues with individuals, then do it in private. Who did he single out?............ I must have missed that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 40 minutes ago, chinapig said: Modern players seem to be all too keen to avoid responsibility for their performances, often encouraged by fans. Should they not be able to think for themselves when they are on the pitch? Mr Johnson has been in the role for seasons. He has had time to recruit players who can take responsibility. A team is a reflection of its Manager. His ideas. His vision. If players cannot follow those ideas and vision it is the Managers responsibility to ensure they do and alter their mindset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 Who cares because as long as the true fans who go away from home and do the Johnson bounce are happy then all is well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 14 minutes ago, Northern Red said: Where were you after Derby? Probably like the rest of us thinking how the hell did we win that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 Honest question,has our coach ever admitted he got it wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wild Bunch Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 9 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: Honest question,has our coach ever admitted he got it wrong Rarely blames himself for defeats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Grim Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 23 minutes ago, Robbored said: Very few, if any managers accept responsibility for a defeat. Bullshit. Forests and Leeds manager have both done it in the last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Dicks Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 29 minutes ago, Northern Red said: Where were you after Derby? Where we you after Birmingham? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, BCFC Grim said: Bullshit. Forests and Leeds manager have both done it in the last week. Beat me to it. It’s a major part of any decent managers armoury, in football and in any place of work - protecting your team and taking collective responsibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 52 minutes ago, chinapig said: Modern players seem to be all too keen to avoid responsibility for their performances, often encouraged by fans. Should they not be able to think for themselves when they are on the pitch? I agree. Game management on the pitch needs to be the responsibility of the players. LJ has spoken about how during training he puts players in situations where they gave to think on their feet and work it out...then guided. Players need to be able to do that. For me, we still look like a team that is defensively organised, but when going forward, it just looks like 11 individuals...not a team with a well drilled pattern. We seem to rely on individuals pulling off a piece of magic, rather than anything planned or drilled. When watching today...apart from Leeds being well drilled, it was noticeable how all of them, when under pressure made natural angles for a pass, dropped to receive, or created space. Very simple footballing basics. We simply don't do that...in fact we often do the opposite. It's so noticeable when a player is looking to make a pass, many go behind a player so as not to receive the ball. They very rarely come for a ball and give themselves space. Forget the Tactics...these are simple footballing basics. Create angles, make space, receive, pass, move. Today we didn't do much of that and made it really hard work for ourselves. On a side note...did anyone else think the Leeds pitch had really long grass and played slow? A tactical plan? I noticed how so many of our players struggled with the slow pace of the ball and Eliasson often scuffed his crosses short because he took grass before ball and hit it fat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Dicks Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 30 minutes ago, Robbored said: Very few, if any managers accept responsibility for a defeat. Thought you loved him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, BCFC Grim said: Bullshit. Forests and Leeds manager have both done it in the last week. I’m not interested in what other managers have to say unless it involves Bristol City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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