The Constant Rabbit Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 4 hours ago, Davefevs said: I had the first option together with tidying my damaged cartilage. I was told 9/12 months, if I was a pro 6/9 months. I was ahead of schedule until fluid problems occurred. I lost little to no muscle (obviously not as defined as Benik’s!!) until fluid stopped me working on them. That is usually the main problem Dave - fluid build-up.As I'm sure you remember, when you increased your workload, it felt great, until the next morning when there was a bag of fluid around your graft for a bit. That's why knees take time, plus Benik is a heavy guy, and his profession requires high-speed sideways movement - so any less than 11-12 months would concern me. If people have had a twisted ankle, then you all recall the swelling - that's the body sending proteins,sugars and hormones to the damaged area - and these mostly bind to H2O for tranport. We are all essentially a big bag of fluid! Write this year off, take the off-season to fully rehab slowly and add 5% extra muscle support over normal, and hopefully his knee won't go again. it was his 'good' knee, so hopefully should respond in the same way as his old ACL which has held up well. He should be 100% for pre-season if all goes well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 6 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: You could expand a little and tell @Agard Days Night why you don’t think Kasey Palmer can thread balls through to a forward partnership of Afobe and Wells? He was certainly doing a good enough job in this regard at the start of the season when we had Afobe and Weimann up there - and his ball through for Rowe to score away at Brum was just sublime, very high class ... your one word dismissal of him can surely be expanded? Gaffer scared to play him . On the ball he has ability but LJ doesn’t like his work ethic . Upsets the balance of our side . I like him . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 8 hours ago, Agard Days Night said: Why not? Has ability . Today would’ve been perfect . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agard Days Night Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 5 hours ago, shelts said: Has ability . Today would’ve been perfect . And that’s why he’s not the player to thread balls through to Afobe and Wells? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eighteen ninetyfour Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 What do we think about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southvillekiddy Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 BRIILLIANT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Skin Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 Great news. Him and Wells up top would be a real handful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 Well done Benik! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 Highly doubt he'll be back in contention until mid April at the very earliest, but very encouraging. Hopefully it will give the rest of the squad a boost as well. For the club to have been giving so much attention to him whilst out injured (as a loan player), you'd have to presume a deal is almost definitely going to happen providing there is no recurrence of the injury. There wasn't with his previous knee, so fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eighteen ninetyfour Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, Taz said: Highly doubt he'll be back in contention until mid April at the very earliest, but very encouraging. Hopefully it will give the rest of the squad a boost as well. For the club to have been giving so much attention to him whilst out injured (as a loan player), you'd have to presume a deal is almost definitely going to happen providing there is no recurrence of the injury. There wasn't with his previous knee, so fingers crossed. Ive heard that it was the opposite knee this time and that it wasnt reoccurring. Doesnt the ACL get stronger when muscle around it gets trained properly after a break? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 Good news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippin cider Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 Great stuff, best of luck to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 35 minutes ago, RedSkin said: Great news. Him and Wells up top would be a real handful. Only IF someone like an on blob KP was loading the gun . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meh Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 As little as 3 years ago if you heard Afobe and Wells were starting up front you would think this was for Leeds or West Brom - not Bristol City. For those questioning LJ, MA etc, maybe this is further food for thought? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco Rojo Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Meh said: As little as 3 years ago if you heard Afobe and Wells were starting up front you would think this was for Leeds or West Brom - not Bristol City. I thought the same when we signed Michael Bridge and Marcus Stewart.......and lastly Just kidding. Completely agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Eighteen ninetyfour said: Ive heard that it was the opposite knee this time and that it wasnt reoccurring. Doesnt the ACL get stronger when muscle around it gets trained properly after a break? It was the opposite knee. Can't answer the other question though as I don't have a clue!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Eighteen ninetyfour said: Ive heard that it was the opposite knee this time and that it wasnt reoccurring. Doesnt the ACL get stronger when muscle around it gets trained properly after a break? @SX227 is your man / woman here. I can only speak from my own experiences. I don’t believe the ACL can get stronger itself (it’s a ligament, not a muscle), but you can provide better protection by having strong muscles around the knee. But you can’t help a freak accident. Benik was just trying to bring a ball down with both feet off the ground (according to Deano) and I was went up for a free header. We both landed awkwardly. I very much suspect Benik’s muscles were far more developed than mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Rich Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 It's keeping the muscles around the knee built but also in good shape. The sartorius for example is harder to work during normal exercises. You don't really lift weights to bulk it up its more about using stretches and work with foam rollers etc keep it shape and maximise flexibility. For some people (me included) changing your running style can also help - my style was with feet more turned out had to to learn to straighten up for less stress through the knee. Interestingly (well I thought so any way ) my physio here in the States referred to this as the Gerrard workout - because of "some soccer player" whose running style they had to correct when he first started playing to try and prevent long term injuries in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiled Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 Although I didn't really accept much of LJ's pre-match West Brom press conference, it was telling that when questioned about Benik's return he said that he would be joining them for training (today) but then also implied that he expected him to make a playing return before the end of the season. Let's just sign the guy on for three years. To hell with financial prudence! Something in the back of my head tells me that this bloke can be our talisman to move into the next level - albeit too late to rescue this season. Welcome back Benik Afobe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Nine Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 34 minutes ago, Davefevs said: @SX227 is your man / woman here. I can only speak from my own experiences. I don’t believe the ACL can get stronger itself (it’s a ligament, not a muscle), but you can provide better protection by having strong muscles around the knee. But you can’t help a freak accident. Benik was just trying to bring a ball down with both feet off the ground (according to Deano) and I was went up for a free header. We both landed awkwardly. I very much suspect Benik’s muscles were far more developed than mine. After 4 torn ACL’s I can confirm they are never as strong again, and while strengthening the muscles around them can help with stabilising, a awkward twist and if that knee gives way it will go again, be amazed if he features for us in anymore than the last 10 of the final day of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 Really pleased to see him back, the bloke could do with some good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 Superb to see Benik back! No one could have blamed him for just giving up on this season and spending all his time with his family as they go through a most incredibly upsetting and traumatising experience ... what a strong bloke, proud to have him at my club ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownendRed97 Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 Wells - Afobe Palmer now that is an exciting prospect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garland-sweden Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 Great news ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 20 minutes ago, DownendRed97 said: Wells - Afobe Palmer now that is an exciting prospect! Is it? Palmer isn't much to get excited about IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meh Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 9 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said: Is it? Palmer isn't much to get excited about IMO Form is temporary. Since Benik’s injury have we truly played to Palmers strengths? Have we given him running options to meet his passing ability? He is a high quality championship play maker but unless we use him properly there is a strong argument he is at the wrong club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, Meh said: Form is temporary. Since Benik’s injury have we truly played to Palmers strengths? Have we given him running options to meet his passing ability? He is a high quality championship play maker but unless we use him properly there is a strong argument he is at the wrong club. Meh. I think people have been making excuses for him for too long. How much is it he gets paid - 15/20 grand a week? And I don't think he's done anything of note since September. Poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 Great to see him back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristolCity1992 Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 I never feel that happy on my first day back to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 On 22/02/2020 at 13:39, SX227 said: That is usually the main problem Dave - fluid build-up.As I'm sure you remember, when you increased your workload, it felt great, until the next morning when there was a bag of fluid around your graft for a bit. That's why knees take time, plus Benik is a heavy guy, and his profession requires high-speed sideways movement - so any less than 11-12 months would concern me. If people have had a twisted ankle, then you all recall the swelling - that's the body sending proteins,sugars and hormones to the damaged area - and these mostly bind to H2O for tranport. We are all essentially a big bag of fluid! Write this year off, take the off-season to fully rehab slowly and add 5% extra muscle support over normal, and hopefully his knee won't go again. it was his 'good' knee, so hopefully should respond in the same way as his old ACL which has held up well. He should be 100% for pre-season if all goes well. Interesting info, thanks for posting. Real shame, definitely not what we wanted to hear. Heres a 2019 quote from the guardian... "There are currently 36 players from Europe’s five biggest leagues out with ACL injuries, which on average require 269 days’ recovery." Thats 9 months (confirming what you said) so it looks like it would be a super human recovery to see him play this year and definitely not worth the risk with a pre season coming up. Couldve been an absolute weapon for us if we got to the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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