REDOXO Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/absolute-class-blackpool-fans-keen-3889219 Well well well! Never saw that coming. His replacement booked for no good reason after ten minutes taken off at half time..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 I must admit, I couldn't see the logic in shunting Moore off on loan to a lower league side this season. AFAIC he had proven he had Championship class, and was often pick of the defence when he played. Other loans, I agreed with. TM not at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Bill Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 It is obvious to everyone that TM is a class defender (almost) in the Bobby Moore style - and you cannot say better than that! So why was he sent out on loan when his presence was so obviously needed last night and on saturday? One could also ask the same question regarding Matty Taylor who, though not quite in the TM class, can be very useful in a "nuisance" role thus making opportunities for others. We seem very keen to welcome mediocre players into the team while ignoring existing talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: I must admit, I couldn't see the logic in shunting Moore off on loan to a lower league side this season. AFAIC he had proven he had Championship class, and was often pick of the defence when he played. Other loans, I agreed with. TM not at all. Taylor Moore should have been playing more than Williams, he should be the future our club is built on. Ok he made a few mistakes yet, no more than Williams has. Makes me wonder whether Johnson had the balls to drop Williams until last night. Remove the youngster from the equation and the problem is no longer there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 TM is not good enough and has never been. We are lucky not to have him here as we have enough of problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Rich said: Taylor Moore should have been playing more than Williams, he should be the future our club is built on. Ok he made a few mistakes yet, no more than Williams has. Makes me wonder whether Johnson had the balls to drop Williams until last night. Remove the youngster from the equation and the problem is no longer there. Agreed. He's 23 this season. No longer a youngster in my view. Williams has been great, but his blunders are stacking up. And costing dear. If the MF aren't confident in the back line then nerves will make them make mistakes as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, Rich said: Taylor Moore should have been playing more than Williams, he should be the future our club is built on. Ok he made a few mistakes yet, no more than Williams has. Makes me wonder whether Johnson had the balls to drop Williams until last night. Remove the youngster from the equation and the problem is no longer there. This exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 There is a reason for TM to have been sent out on loan. One single game were he lost out badly in his defending. People don't understand football but are allowed to an opinion so name me the game. It was at AG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banjo Island Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 I thought taylor moore was looking quality calm under pressure a turn of pace physicaly strong and assured bringing the ball out of defence a total shock to see him shipped out to blackpool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roe Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 It was a weird move to shift him out and bring in another young player so far into the season. Only way it made sense is if we were 100% aiming for promotion (or at least a play off spot) this season and felt that the difference in quality would be important. I think that was the aim but it's not looking a very smart trade in hindsight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted February 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 37 minutes ago, bristolcitysweden said: TM is not good enough and has never been. We are lucky not to have him here as we have enough of problems. Sorry Tommy this time you are wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 46 minutes ago, bristolcitysweden said: TM is not good enough and has never been. We are lucky not to have him here as we have enough of problems. Someone has started early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Bristol Rob said: Someone has started early. Far earlier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow&Blue&Red Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 He offered to work twice as long for the same money but then, having proved he was good enough at Championship level, was shipped down to L1 anyway. It looks like bad faith and bad judgement from the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodjias Wrist Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 He has dropped a level and is playing every game so I would expect him to be performing well. Much like Morell, Walsh, Taylor etc. All performing very well in league one. Would they be able to play as well in a championship LJ team? No because its never consistent and this league is a big step up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted February 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Yellow&Blue&Red said: He offered to work twice as long for the same money but then, having proved he was good enough at Championship level, was shipped down to L1 anyway. It looks like bad faith and bad judgement from the club. From the club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted February 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, Kodjias Wrist said: He has dropped a level and is playing every game so I would expect him to be performing well. Much like Morell, Walsh, Taylor etc. All performing very well in league one. Would they be able to play as well in a championship LJ team? No because its never consistent and this league is a big step up. So it’s proving for Hendrickson and Benkovic. Two players who were not playing at all brought in both subbed at half time and told by the manager to get up to speed in the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow&Blue&Red Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, REDOXO said: From the club? Do you mean as opposed to the manager? I guess I was thinking of the manager as part of the club - him too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmite Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 50 minutes ago, Rich said: Taylor Moore should have been playing more than Williams, he should be the future our club is built on. Ok he made a few mistakes yet, no more than Williams has. Makes me wonder whether Johnson had the balls to drop Williams until last night. Remove the youngster from the equation and the problem is no longer there. This is so right but unfortunately LJ didn't rate him so he became the scapegoat. We all have different opinions of players but there weren't many that didn't rate Taylor Moore. LJ has the casting vote however so he had to go. He should now be the kingpin of our defence, not Blackpools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodjias Wrist Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, REDOXO said: So it’s proving for Hendrickson and Benkovic. Two players who were not playing at all brought in both subbed at half time and told by the manager to get up to speed in the media. True but how many of our players that are supposedly up to speed performing well? Ellison? Diedhou? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCulturalBomb Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 Best player on our opening day against Leeds. And our best bet for playing out from the back and trying to regain some form of substance in our playing style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 The worst thing is, we loan Taylor and recall an injured Vyner. Work that one out. Taylor has performed better than Kalas and Williams, but LJ doesn't seem to rate him, hence the long in the making pursuit of Benkovic, ahead of Derby. Is Big Benk better? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norn Iron Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 I'd like to see the points per game when TM was playing. I wouldn't mind betting that we won more games when TM was playing and lost more when he wasn't. Whether that would be a fair comparison, I don't know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dullmoan Tone Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 Firstly he is not Bobby Moore style - much as I would like this to be true. Secondly while Ashley Williams has made mistakes (more recently after a very long run) he has been mostly brilliant and his interceptions and positioning have been mostly superb. I understand we want home grown talent but if an ageing Williams were to be injured, Baker is mostly this way and Kalas has really struggled this year - would we really have wanted Taylor Moore as our lynchpin - he needs more time. He has shown flashes of brilliance but also messed up more times than people seem to want to recall - I think it was him giving the ball away so cheaply against QPR on the half way line that caused Nagy's original injury (may be wrong here). While results are rubbish this decision stacks up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norn Iron Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Curr Avon said: The worst thing is, we loan Taylor and recall an injured Vyner. Work that one out. I thought Aberdeen released him back to us as his dislocated shoulder meant he couldn't play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted February 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, Kodjias Wrist said: True but how many of our players that are supposedly up to speed performing well? Ellison? Diedhou? Diehdou is playing really well with no service. Elliason is being heavily marked and has the look of a player that knows he will be sold when he refuses to extend his contract. The new players were brought in to improve us that’s the avowed intent and to improve us to standard better than what we had and help players around them. The last three games have been truly awful. The apologists on here pointed to the league position of Leeds and WBA as a factor. Clearly the Huddersfield performance shows we are pants throughout the team and the new guys don’t help. I feel for Wells. He looked crestfallen last night him and FD hardly saw the ball, how is he going to effect the game if we are defending our own penalty area like we were for the first 45 minutes. The worst 45 minutes even LJ admitted as our manager. (PNE AND WIGAN TAKE A LOT OF BEATING) The coffee has to be sniffed at some point soon. As for Taylor Moore a player with games under his belt and made captain shipped out for an out of form out of touch Premier League also ran looks like a terrible decision to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchay Red Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 58 minutes ago, bristolcitysweden said: There is a reason for TM to have been sent out on loan. One single game were he lost out badly in his defending. People don't understand football but are allowed to an opinion so name me the game. It was at AG. Absolute nonsense. LJ has long wanted to get Benkovic here on loan as he believed that he is Webster like, in having the class and ability to bring the ball out rather than lumping it. Once the Benkovic deal was sorted it meant that the highly regarded Taylor Moore would not get enough game time here to continue his excellent development. Hence the loan deal to ensure that he plays regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted February 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, Dullmoan Tone said: Firstly he is not Bobby Moore style - much as I would like this to be true. Secondly while Ashley Williams has made mistakes (more recently after a very long run) he has been mostly brilliant and his interceptions and positioning have been mostly superb. I understand we want home grown talent but if an ageing Williams were to be injured, Baker is mostly this way and Kalas has really struggled this year - would we really have wanted Taylor Moore as our lynchpin - he needs more time. He has shown flashes of brilliance but also messed up more times than people seem to want to recall - I think it was him giving the ball away so cheaply against QPR on the half way line that caused Nagy's original injury (may be wrong here). While results are rubbish this decision stacks up. We now have Benkovic as our lynchpin if the above scenario materializes. Sigh! Moore was excellent early in the season to be constantly pulled off or dropped by LJ who now brings in Benkovic who he had a go at in the media last night as being poor. Does that not say something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, Norn Iron said: I thought Aberdeen released him back to us as his dislocated shoulder meant he couldn't play? Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted February 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, Frenchay Red said: Absolute nonsense. LJ has long wanted to get Benkovic here on loan as he believed that he is Webster like, in having the class and ability to bring the ball out rather than lumping it. Once the Benkovic deal was sorted it meant that the highly regarded Taylor Moore would not get enough game time here to continue his excellent development. Hence the loan deal to ensure that he plays regularly. Yes. I agree with all this. But Benkovic so far has not been very good. And if LJ can publicly say so then it’s not a stretch for others. Moore was shipped for Benkovic is of course true. As for highly regarded, if we not had an injury crisis in August any bid for Moore would have been accepted. The bloke had to halve his wages apparently to get a contract extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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