Shtanley Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Olé said: He told us it would take three transfer windows to get a team he trusts, now we need to wait for three books before we find out why he hasn't. I'm sure buried in there will be reasons to be sympathetic with Lee, but at the moment I can't look beyond the fact he seems to be reacting to the pressure by feeding toxic innuendo into the public domain in his various press conferences. I really don't think it helps anyone (bar his own ego) and I suspect it's one area even SL won't tolerate forever. "To get a true reflection of one of my teams it'll probably take three windows, but we'll look to fast-track that". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 25 minutes ago, Robbored said: Many of the changes have been down to injuries but that hardly gets a mention. I’m sure that if LJ had had a fully fit squad all season then we’d see a regular starting 11 and matchday squad. The injuries at the start of the season are fair enough, but now it doesn’t wash, it’s only afobe out long term the rest is down to the head coach and his tombola mans we wonder why there’s no cohesion in the team...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roe Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 6 different midfield partnerships have started in the last 6 games. SIX ffs! It's ridiculous. Wouldn't bet against another new one getting tried this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 25 minutes ago, Shtanley said: We've got too many players. Simple as. Too many players ,no stand outs. Said it many times - we have 4 @ £10k per week not 2 @ £20k and if they get injured have the understudy kids get some game time [Walsh, Moore, Morrell] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 10 minutes ago, Olé said: He told us it would take three transfer windows to get a team he trusts, now we need to wait for three books before we find out why he hasn't. I'm sure buried in there will be reasons to be sympathetic with Lee, but at the moment I can't look beyond the fact he seems to be reacting to the pressure by feeding toxic innuendo into the public domain in his various press conferences. I really don't think it helps anyone (bar his own ego) and I suspect it's one area even SL won't tolerate forever. Yes he said 3 transfer windows, but then again, he has constantly lose his best players for his whole time here. This season for example, Webster signed for Brighton days before the season and our defence looks worse for it. The loss of Brownhill in january and i'd argue our midfield looks weaker because of it. Overall he's doing well in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tin Soldier Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 15 minutes ago, Hare Island said: I’d be surprised if these revelations were any more than those facing other managers. Getting your excuses in for poor man management and failure to motivate players are we Lee? Getting his excuses in before the sack in the summer possibly? Classic positioning from a manager who knows he is on borrowed time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 24 minutes ago, Robbored said: Had Smith been available all season, he’d have been a starter and so would have been Afobe. LJ hasn’t been able yet to replace Brownhill who was also a regular. Baker is made of glass but had he been available more often he’d have been another regular as would Kalas. Of course some changes were tactical but most were enforced. I'm also not sure we'd anticipated losing Webster, and that came quite late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soultrader Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 19 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: He's really readjusted his targets. Used to be Europe in 5 years, now it's publishing a trilogy of books. From competing with Guardiola to competing with Steve Bruce. Well if that doesn't happen, he can blame that on Brexit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roe Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 Are any of these his books? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 21 minutes ago, NickJ said: Maybe. According to Johnson we have 3 books to look forward to in 5 years, can't wait. I'm thinking... 20/12/2017 - How I dun Jose. Leespeak - From Box Entries to Zero Opps. Lee Tomlin - It Was A Good Idea At The Time Any more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendip City Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 37 minutes ago, Roe said: He's always made lots of changes though. Unless he's been extremely unlucky during his 4 years here, it does just seem like it's part of his management style. Eliasson and Wells clearly weren't injured or ill on the weekend, and yet they dropped out of the team. That's changes he wanted to make for whatever reason. He said himself that he wanted a team that he could trust and that knew his standards etc. We've got too many similar players of similar ability and he never seems quite sure which ones he fully believes in. That's left us with 20 odd players all expecting regular game time and almost all of them being thrown in and out of the team often on a whim of the odd mistake or poor team performance. Spot on. Hes’s given himself the luxury of a massive squad and the option to continually chop and change. a smaller squad would mean he’d have to get the best from what he has, keep them on side. That’s coaching and man-management... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Riaz said: Yes he said 3 transfer windows, but then again, he has constantly lose his best players for his whole time here. This season for example, Webster signed for Brighton days before the season and our defence looks worse for it. The loss of Brownhill in january and i'd argue our midfield looks weaker because of it. Overall he's doing well in my opinion. I think LJ's biggest critics are simply too harsh when it comes to the mitigating circumstances, especially for a club in our position/budget/size etc. Ultimately, fighting for the top 6, he's outdone what many thought he was capable of. So much so that they've started getting the excuses in early, if we were to be promoted. That's a sign of progress for me. But LJ does not help himself with the constant chopping and changing regardless - and although more improved recently, the transfer policy needs to be much more closely aligned to what style of play LJ actually wants. Or does he sign 'the best available and affordable' player in any position and then try and shoe horn them into the team? If so, that needs to change. Choose it, stick to it, buy to work in it. When LJ talks about identity I feel he means ethic or ethos. Fans want to see a playing identity and he doesn't help himself with that changing the team and formation all the time, regardless of injuries etc and unknown book content matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soultrader Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 18 minutes ago, mozo said: Well we're not exactly Derby County are we! Now there's a team with issues... Difficult to believe LJ has genuine issues: Billionaire owner Billionaire owner, who backed you when you went on a massive loosing streak Brand new stadium Oh your training ground looks a bit shabby compared to the stadium? Brand new training facility Team on financially sound footing. (I suspect Hull would swap in a heart beat) Not trying to belittle whatever has happened. I know there have been tragic events this season and I'm sure some things are yet to come out. But I suspect there aren't many managers who feel he has been dealt a duff hand 23 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: I’m sure these books will be a balanced view. The Busy Bee Trilogy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roe Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mendip City said: Spot on. Hes’s given himself the luxury of a massive squad and the option to continually chop and change. a smaller squad would mean he’d have to get the best from what he has, keep them on side. That’s coaching and man-management... He's even said this himself a few times recently. "The players are getting anxious because they don't know if they're in the squad or not." "We had a great day training because we only had 17 fit players and it's easier to manage that". "We need to trim the squad" That trimming the squad consisted of letting Szmodics, Wright, Semenyo go out on loan (all players who weren't playing anyway) and bringing in 3 more who are all expecting a lot of game time. So almost the opposite of trimming the squad then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendip City Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 27 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: He's really readjusted his targets. Used to be Europe in 5 years, now it's publishing a trilogy of books. From competing with Guardiola to competing with Steve Bruce. Competing with JK Rowling more like! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 28 minutes ago, mozo said: If there are things behind the scenes that explain the chopping and changing, he'll certainly be given a little sympathy by Lansdown and ride the storm. I get that LJ's comment might be BS, but if it is correct we might all be being a bit harsh on him.. I suppose the following we know about: Nketiah debacle in August Afobe injury I expect the story of this season is that we intended in the summer to set up to play to Nketiah and then Afobe's strengths and that's why we bought Palmer, Nagy and Massengo - and then due to most of the eggs being in that basket we have floundered around cluelessly after Afobe's injury. I find it hard to conceive of a saga that would justify the number of changes he has made however, and there is no doubt in my mind that the reason our form is poor recently and our performances have been worse than results all season is because nobody is in the side long enough to settle and form partnerships and an unconscious understanding of the habits, positioning and timing of the players around them. It doesn't require an in depth knowledge of anything to know that familiarity and the security that comes with it are essential in being confident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 14 minutes ago, Roe said: Are any of these his books? The last one was how I felt after the Brentford game.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 11 minutes ago, Curr Avon said: I'm thinking... 20/12/2017 - How I dun Jose. Leespeak - From Box Entries to Zero Opps. Lee Tomlin - It Was A Good Idea At The Time Any more? Winter - The Streaks Are the Hardest Part Why I turned down Barcelona Box Entries and Other New Positions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 1 minute ago, ScottishRed said: Winter - The Streaks Are the Hardest Part Why I turned down Barcelona Box Entries and Other New Positions You have to be over 18 to buy that last title. Top-shelf material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendip City Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 24 minutes ago, Shtanley said: "To get a true reflection of one of my teams it'll probably take three windows, but we'll look to fast-track that". How many windows has he had to fast track us.... the club recently got the bunting out for his forth anniversary... so that’s 8 windows? He’s taken us from lower mid to upper mid table. Entertainment non-existent at home games. Millions spent. Tons of signings and tons jettisoned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Mendip City said: How many windows has he had to fast track us.... the club recently got the bunting out for his forth anniversary... so that’s 8 windows? He’s taken us from lower mid to upper mid table. Entertainment non-existent at home games. Millions spent. Tons of signings and tons jettisoned. I hate defending Lee, but he has made us more money than he's spent. I'll give him that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 1 hour ago, NickJ said: Aah, the old "I've been so unlucky with problems behind the scenes, but I can't tell you what they are " excuse. Classic. What does he need an excuse for? Having us in 7th and two points of the play offs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mendip City said: How many windows has he had to fast track us.... the club recently got the bunting out for his forth anniversary... so that’s 8 windows? He’s taken us from lower mid to upper mid table. Entertainment non-existent at home games. Millions spent. Tons of signings and tons jettisoned. Or you could say he’s taken us from relegation certainty to playoff contenders, depends how you want to spin it. perhaps the reason he’s treated the new players how he has is because he didn’t bring them in? Perhaps he has less say in signings than we realised. It would explain why he can’t get the best out of them, or understand his best 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, ScottishRed said: Winter - The Streaks Are the Hardest Part Why I turned down Barcelona Box Entries and Other New Positions Busy Bees - How I Avoided Cease And Desist Letters From Brentford FC Not Many People Know How Well Known I Am Josh Brownhill's Shoes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 13 minutes ago, Riaz said: Overall he's doing well in my opinion. That's fair enough - I also think he has done well (emphasis on has done), I'm certainly not one of his biggest critics and never have been. Last season, as I'd said many times on here, was probably my favourite in my lifetime for away performances, LJ was achieving miracles. I never expected us to retain Webster AND sign Kalas. I didn't expect half the signings. Nor did I expect Wells. Johnson has been backed. But despite re-investment I do think we're now regressing, both quality of football and confidence in a preferred line up, is all a bit chaotic. What is particularly troubling is the lack of leadership evidenced by comments in the media in the past week, this thread is just the latest. I didn't have any view on LJ's future until he started briefing like this in the media, but it's unhelpful, desperate, and is not going to end well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmite Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 55 minutes ago, Robbored said: Many of the changes have been down to injuries but that hardly gets a mention. I’m sure that if LJ had had a fully fit squad all season then we’d see a regular starting 11 and matchday squad. Even you cant believe this Robbo. You've heard him speak at Senior Reds and have admitted to being completely baffled by his thoughts. Fact is there are 23 other teams in our league so that's at least 23 different teams and formations needed by LJ. Plus we play them all twice. He has no idea of his best 11 or 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 46 minutes ago, NickJ said: Maybe. According to Johnson we have 3 books to look forward to in 5 years, can't wait. 'The Tinkerer ' Parts 1,2 & 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRaw Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 50 minutes ago, NickJ said: Maybe. According to Johnson we have 3 books to look forward to in 5 years, can't wait. Sod the books.......I can't want for the European football he promised after 5 years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, Curr Avon said: Busy Bees - How I Avoided Cease And Desist Letters From Brentford FC Not Many People Know How Well Known I Am Josh Brownhill's Shoes The Johnson Identity The Diedhiou Supremacy The Lansdown Ultimatum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 9 minutes ago, Curr Avon said: Busy Bees - How I Avoided Cease And Desist Letters From Brentford FC Not Many People Know How Well Known I Am Josh Brownhill's Shoes Pressure - What People Don’t Know about the 42nd Best Young Coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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