stephenkibby. Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 Be interesting to see the comparison with our last promotion season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, stephenkibby. said: Be interesting to see the comparison with our last promotion season. Pretty sure we averaged around 1500 when we got promoted in 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 4 hours ago, Moments of Pleasure said: The Reading owner has stumped up for free travel to 15 - that's fifteen; one five - of their furthest away games this season (fire away with the gags). I understand Stoke are giving their crowd the seventh consecutive season of free travel to all away games this season. A couple of years ago, four or five Championship clubs, all sponsored by the same betting firm, offered free away travel to midweek games. Not sure if this is still in operation. There doesn't appear to be the same interest/enthusiasm for this sort of thing at Bristol City. And they still come in 2nd bottom of that table..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 4 hours ago, cidercity1987 said: Rovers fans are right, our away support compared to home is absolutely fckn shite ....and their away support is just shite. Their home support, for a club in a City of nearly half a million people, is embarrassingly shite. So **** em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 5 hours ago, RedDave said: Plymouth away attendances excellent which shows location needn’t make too much of a difference. Possibly one of the best travelling support in the country especially considering they’re a L2 club with many more miles to travel than most other teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 4 hours ago, ExiledAjax said: Working it back. If we've an average of 1,171 from 19 matches then that's a total of 22,249. In the continued absence of an update to the "Away Attendance" section of the OS (@JerrySLO) it is frustratingly difficult to nail down the official away attendance at the two games you mention. Neither match report gives the figures. https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/smith-recognises-12th-man-effect/ this article on the Reading game says "...near 2,000 travelling supporters..." the Madejksi purportedly holds 24,200 so being given the full allocation and selling it would add 420 to our total. Cardiff's stadium is 33,000, 10% of which is 3,300. Cardiff's website is utterly awful and I can see no mention of even an approximate number of away fans on any of our OS articles relating to it. Total attendance was apparently 23,846 according to an article on walesonline.co.uk. Even the ticket threads pre-game on here don't suggest how many we got given. in the absence of any evidence I am going to guess we took 1,000. So add 2,300 onto the 420 from Reading for a hypothetical increase of 2,720 to give aggregate away attendance of 24,969 at 19 away fixtures. Would up the average to 1,314 and move us up 4 positions to where Boro sit now on 1,307. Still not top half. Assumptions are that we would be given and would sell the entire hypothetical allocation, ignoring segregation reductions etc. We sold out our allocation for Cardiff which I believe was just over 2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 It’s funny how ‘away’ attendance is seen as some sorting after of honor amongst football fans. This is about our level for away attendance in a beautiful, multi cultural, modern, city where football isn’t everything. I like it. Never underestimate what’s the figures would look like if ‘Leeds Rovers’ or ‘Luton Athletic’ played league football. I know the super mad football cities of of Manchester, Liverpool Sheffield etc have healthy support for two teams, but they’re the exception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 Out of interest, what is the "average away attendance" at Ashton Gate so far this season? It is more or less than the average that we've taken elsewhere? One for the real stattos, but a chart or a table showing the over/under for each club on what they take away versus visit them, would be more interesting. Obviously some clubs with small away sections would be limited, but for the rest of us, it would have the advantage of having relative distance baked in.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Wood Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 12 hours ago, Seneca the Younger said: Most likely, with Fulham being on a Tuesday too. Lots of if's & but's though that I'm sure all clubs could say. Fulham was on a saturday with a reduced allocation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenners Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 12 hours ago, Olé said: Barnsley away on a Friday night on Sky, Sheff Wed away on Sunday at noon, two days before Christmas, and Huddersfield away on a Tuesday night probably bring our number down relative to other clubs, given we're talking about the average of no more than 18 games so far, of which those 3 would have been out of most people's reach due to work/family/travel. Generally midweek games away always disadvantage us, we do not travel well beyond Birmingham or London, where other clubs often get fixtures no more than 1-2 hours away and with a fighting chance of making it after work. Ditto away boxing day probably is a disadvantage in this table. The only Saturday away we were actually pathetic was Hull, no one turned up! Nice to see Leeds and Sheff Wed miles out in front, the cynic in me would point out they also have the two most expensive away tickets in the division, perhaps it's a desperate ploy to stay top of this table! I wonder if they'd look quite so good relative to the rest of us if they were miles from everyone and had to pay their own £40 away ticket price 23 times a season? Come on Ole, at least get your facts straight before posting drivel like this. Sheffield Wednesday use their category A £39 tickets a handful of times a season, usually big or local games. Since we were charged £39 on the opening day it’s been £25-30 each time for us, less than what we charge them every time. As for Leeds..... you realise Elland Road has sold out every week this season and every game their fans are charged £39 in the east and west stand? You could charge them double that and they’d still sell every allocation in this league. Our away support is average let’s be fair, too many half hearted fans who turn their nose up at travelling past Nottingham. It’s funny really as some of the best away days in the division are up north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 12 hours ago, Seneca the Younger said: Most likely, with Fulham being on a Tuesday too. Lots of if's & but's though that I'm sure all clubs could say. Interesting graph and explains it to a certain degree... we’re pretty isolated where we are. Granted Cardiff is close and Swansea and Reading not a million miles away, but compared with the close proximity of the London, Midlands and Northern clubs, barring the two Welsh clubs, we are the most isolated. Add in the dire performances at home, I can’t see that many of the home regulars are chomping at the bit to travel away even if our form away has been considerably better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicki's soulmate Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 Is there a moaning c unts league table? we'd top that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 Barnsley's away end allows for 5700 visiting fans, so for clubs in Yorkshire and Lancashire too (Preston to Barnsley is 80/85 miles, ie like Reading for us) they can boost their away aggregate at an away day an hour away, even less. Preston's away end offers nearly 6000 to those that can fill it. Blackburn's about 4000, Hillsborough 3700. All the big away ends appear to be in the incestuous north, three or four hours from here. Blackburn to Preston is 10 miles! Meanwhile, Cardiff, Reading and Fulham offer us less than we could take and less than they have given recently. We don't have the nearby rivals with big away allocations in which we can "fill our boots" and top up our aggregate. However, none of this explains Plymouth's enthusiasm compared to ours. Do our lofty expectations (based on greater achievements in the past than Plymouth, and greater potential now eg ground, owner, etc) make us more miserable and unable to enjoy whatever we have or are doing right now? Are we amongst the most miserable, moaning bed-wetters in the country? who gripe about anything and everything and who go to home games slightly hacked off and under protest so the idea of trudging the length of the country to watch our team is a non-starter? I do begin to wonder about our support and our collective "mentality." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 13 hours ago, cidercity1987 said: Rovers fans are right, our away support compared to home is absolutely fckn shite Our away support is about what it was in the Championship ten years ago, when our home attendances were 14 to 16,000. So were they saying it was pretty fckn ok ten years ago? I don't suppose so. If they ever get themselves a new ground, they will undergo the same experience of home support growing way beyond those prepared to spend all day and more than a £100 to follow them around the country. As I'm sure they are quick to point out whilst slating others support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 18 minutes ago, Moments of Pleasure said: Our away support is about what it was in the Championship ten years ago, when our home attendances were 14 to 16,000. So were they saying it was pretty fckn ok ten years ago? I don't suppose so. If they ever get themselves a new ground, they will undergo the same experience of home support growing way beyond those prepared to spend all day and more than a £100 to follow them around the country. As I'm sure they are quick to point out whilst slating others support. As has been pointed out many times before, the ‘away attendance as a % to home support’ is utterly ridiculous. Using that calculation Leeds away support has got worse in the last few years, Accrington Stanley have one if the best away followings in the country and we (and the Gas) can’t compete with Shrewsbury Town’s away support. It amazes me that people getting sucked in by their Gas mates spouting bullshit in the pub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 10 hours ago, Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan said: We sold out our allocation for Cardiff which I believe was just over 2000 Thanks. So 1,000 comes of the hypothetical total. 1,000/19 = 53 so reduce the hypothetical average to 1,261. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the frampton balti Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 Who are we!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weepywall Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Moments of Pleasure said: Our away support is about what it was in the Championship ten years ago, when our home attendances were 14 to 16,000. So were they saying it was pretty fckn ok ten years ago? I don't suppose so. If they ever get themselves a new ground, they will undergo the same experience of home support growing way beyond those prepared to spend all day and more than a £100 to follow them around the country. As I'm sure they are quick to point out whilst slating others support. That's a very good point, our away support doesn't really change much over the years but we have seen a big increase in home support, so much so that a 20k gate now is disappointing, wasn't that long ago that 15k was considered a big crowd, new fans probably less likely to travel away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightyreds89 Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 Isn’t this a table for last season as opposed to this one? if so Luton were in League one with that away following. London and midlands based clubs defiantly have a distance advantage over us and some northern clubs that said large proportion of this division is upwards of Brum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Watts Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 17 hours ago, Seneca the Younger said: Most likely, with Fulham being on a Tuesday too. Lots of if's & but's though that I'm sure all clubs could say. Fulham was on a Saturday.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, weepywall said: That's a very good point, our away support doesn't really change much over the years but we have seen a big increase in home support, so much so that a 20k gate now is disappointing, wasn't that long ago that 15k was considered a big crowd, new fans probably less likely to travel away. I expect our away support in 2014/15 was about what it is now, too, somewhere around 1000 per match, and our home average was 12k. So an even better ratio (even though our home average that season was restricted by ground developments). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 Surely this is something else we can pin on Johnson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhitepurple Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 17 hours ago, Seneca the Younger said: Most likely, with Fulham being on a Tuesday too. Lots of if's & but's though that I'm sure all clubs could say. Cardiff and Middlesbrough seem to be higher than us, so its irrelevent. WE ARE DREADFUL TO WATCH SIMPLE AS THAT PEOPLE WOULD RATHER SAVE MONEY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted March 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 4 hours ago, mightyreds89 said: Isn’t this a table for last season as opposed to this one? if so Luton were in League one with that away following. London and midlands based clubs defiantly have a distance advantage over us and some northern clubs that said large proportion of this division is upwards of Brum. No it’s this season 4 hours ago, mightyreds89 said: Isn’t this a table for last season as opposed to this one? if so Luton were in League one with that away following. London and midlands based clubs defiantly have a distance advantage over us and some northern clubs that said large proportion of this division is upwards of Brum. No it’s this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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