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The Coronavirus and how it impacts on sport

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13 minutes ago, pillred said:

At what point are we at least going to try to resume normal life, this can't go on indefinitely, at the moment everyone (well most) are sticking to the rules and are very understanding but there will come a time I think when a decision will have to be made about resuming daily life, a vaccine is months away how many would be happy to still be in this situation then.

12 weeks to turn the tide Boris said. Think was last week?

So probably until mid June or so, if that's got some accuracy. Perhaps it'd be reviewed then or periodically.

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9 minutes ago, pillred said:

At what point are we at least going to try to resume normal life, this can't go on indefinitely, at the moment everyone (well most) are sticking to the rules and are very understanding but there will come a time I think when a decision will have to be made about resuming daily life, a vaccine is months away how many would be happy to still be in this situation then.

The longer people adhere to the lock down, the sooner it will get back to "normal".

Simples.

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46 minutes ago, One Team In Keynsham said:

Who would have thought Wetherspoon would take this sort of action? Were there any signs?

That said, in the interests of balance, if someone finds it to be a hoax, please put up a link.

 

If true, just makes my stance about never going into a Spoons again feel even better.  What a cockwombling, wankpuffining c£€t.

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29 minutes ago, pillred said:

At what point are we at least going to try to resume normal life, this can't go on indefinitely, at the moment everyone (well most) are sticking to the rules and are very understanding but there will come a time I think when a decision will have to be made about resuming daily life, a vaccine is months away how many would be happy to still be in this situation then.

A leading expert in Vaccination stated recently that the earliest we are likely to be vaccinating the general public will be the end of the Summer....2021.

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4 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

I'm not knocking the Government here but these packages still have some gaping holes and lack clarity in places. 

3) Employees who were laid off by proactive/desperate companies before the 80% rule was announced.

I think that has been clarified.  The company would need to re-employ them for them to be covered by the 80% rule.

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I should also add, gut feeling tells me that while people will do this for the NHS in particular and for some time, that if there isn't a sense that we're truly all in it together, people's patience with it will not be limitless and may fray sooner rather than later. Maybe it's not the case here though.

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3 hours ago, Ska Junkie said:

He is Harry, changed his username though.

 

Ah yes. 
I’ve just messaged him to say top work. And I now know he’s still active on here in another guise. 
He said “takes me back to us being in school writing songs about our classmates”. 
He’s a proper good lad. 

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1 hour ago, One Team In Keynsham said:

Who would have thought Wetherspoon would take this sort of action? Were there any signs?

That said, in the interests of balance, if someone finds it to be a hoax, please put up a link.

 

If true it needs to get on every news channel, and all of those suppliers need to somehow stick together and refuse to do business with him in the future (big if, if that is possible though). The trouble with dealing with big business like Wetherspoons. 

Tesco done the same to an old supplier of ours, "take this price or get nothing". They really don't care about killing other businesses.

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5 minutes ago, Harry said:

Ah yes. 
I’ve just messaged him to say top work. And I now know he’s still active on here in another guise. 
He said “takes me back to us being in school writing songs about our classmates”. 
He’s a proper good lad. 

He is mate, don't ever play him at darts though, he's a bit tasty! 

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1 hour ago, One Team In Keynsham said:

Who would have thought Wetherspoon would take this sort of action? Were there any signs?

That said, in the interests of balance, if someone finds it to be a hoax, please put up a link.

 

 

1 hour ago, LondonBristolian said:

I honestly am starting to wonder if Tim Martin and Mike Ashley have made a drunken bet about which one of them can win the title of Britain's Most Obnoxious ***...

 

Your move, Mr Ashley.

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44 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

12 weeks to turn the tide Boris said. Think was last week?

So probably until mid June or so, if that's got some accuracy. Perhaps it'd be reviewed then or periodically.

He said that on the same day my employer said I couldn't go to any sites for 12 weeks and i had to 'work from home'. Take it from me, it's June 16th and I'm climbing the walls already. 

Has to be done though and personally, i think it will get a lot worse before it gets better, i.e total lockdown. 

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21 minutes ago, Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan said:

A leading expert in Vaccination stated recently that the earliest we are likely to be vaccinating the general public will be the end of the Summer....2021.

Well if that's the case some difficult questions are going to have to be asked because there is no way normal life can be put on hold that long, what the solution is I have no idea but one will have to be found that may include some kind of compromise such as once you have had it you get an exemption certificate from a doctor from all the restrictions currently in place or something like that.

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7 hours ago, Eddie Hitler said:

 

The only thing that would rescue English football would be if the Chinese league really took off and became the de facto best in the world league that the EPL is at present.

Then all the top players would head there for the money and the

.....live animal food markets. 

Yes, I can see our top players just itching to further their careers in places like China....no, it's not going to happen, when you think about.

Although, if we did start paying more realistic money, and our "top players" did choose to clear off, to China, I can live happily without that and will drive them all to Heathrow myself.

Who gives a shit about that or them anymore?

 

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8 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said:

He said that on the same day my employer said I couldn't go to any sites for 12 weeks and i had to 'work from home'. Take it from me, it's June 16th and I'm climbing the walls already. 

Has to be done though and personally, i think it will get a lot worse before it gets better, i.e total lockdown. 

If the Government help fill the void in the interim it will pass without issues. If not...IMO of course.

Could you define total lockdown?

 

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6 minutes ago, pillred said:

Well if that's the case some difficult questions are going to have to be asked because there is no way normal life can be put on hold that long, what the solution is I have no idea but one will have to be found that may include some kind of compromise such as once you have had it you get an exemption certificate from a doctor from all the restrictions currently in place or something like that.

I think the point of the self test kits they’re due to roll out in the millions are to find who has developed antibodies towards the virus (suggesting they’ve been infected at some point without previous confirmation). I guess if you’re one of the lucky ones who’ve come through it unscathed and with a degree of immunity you can indeed continue some kind of ‘normal’ life.
 

Whether that means pubs and bars etc can reopen? I don’t know.

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8 minutes ago, pillred said:

Well if that's the case some difficult questions are going to have to be asked because there is no way normal life can be put on hold that long, what the solution is I have no idea but one will have to be found that may include some kind of compromise such as once you have had it you get an exemption certificate from a doctor from all the restrictions currently in place or something like that.

Only issue with that is we still don't know for certain if people who have had it before are definitely immune. There is a small amount of evidence in China that a small proportion of people may test positive again*. In most cases, this is thought to be asymptomatic but may mean people who have had it can still transmit. That would massively complicate things.

*It is also possible that this can be explained by errors in testing. 

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7 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said:

Only issue with that is we still don't know for certain if people who have had it before are definitely immune. There is a small amount of evidence in China that a small proportion of people may test positive again*. In most cases, this is thought to be asymptomatic but may mean people who have had it can still transmit. That would massively complicate things.

*It is also possible that this can be explained by errors in testing. 

From what I have read it was a tiny proportion and even that was open to doubt. I don't think the small chance of that would stop everyday life resuming for those that could prove they were over it.

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12 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said:

Only issue with that is we still don't know for certain if people who have had it before are definitely immune. There is a small amount of evidence in China that a small proportion of people may test positive again*. In most cases, this is thought to be asymptomatic but may mean people who have had it can still transmit. That would massively complicate things.

*It is also possible that this can be explained by errors in testing

The tests themselves are, by all accounts, only around 60-70% accurate meaning that there is the possibility of false negatives. From what I’ve seen it appears the  general consensus is that you are indeed immune once you have fought off the disease.

However, the virus itself can remain present in the body for quite a while after symptoms have gone. Therefore you can test positive, positive, positive negative, negative, positive for example. Someone with a better understanding than I can confirm if this is common with all viruses (I remember Ebola patients having to be very careful to practice safe sex long after recovery).

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24 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

If the Government help fill the void in the interim it will pass without issues. If not...IMO of course.

Could you define total lockdown?

 

As in other countries Mr P. Some people are clearly not taking any notice of the current advice. Does a full lockdown work? I've no idea but wouldn't be surprised if we are not forced rather than asked to stay in quite soon. 

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4 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said:

As in other countries Mr P. Some people are clearly not taking any notice of the current advice. Does a full lockdown work? I've no idea but wouldn't be surprised if we are not forced rather than asked to stay in quite soon. 

Fair- I do believe in other countries people are allowed out to buy food though, having said that it could vary from place to place as well.

Are there any that have a total lockdown even barring that? I'd be surprised...

The only way you could work it and prevent society imploding is if we all had to stay in for an x week period and rent, mortgage all on hold as in war and army deliver food, rationing- otherwise too many loose ends, starvation etc.

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2 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Fair- I do believe in other countries people are allowed out to buy food though, having said that it could vary from place to place as well.

I've no idea how they could enforce it here, spot checks maybe?

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1 hour ago, joe jordans teeth said:

405,000 signed up to act as NHS volunteers,makes you proud and shows this country isn’t just made up of selfish arseholses

It's heartening...trust you are doing your bit.

You intimated you were a key worker at past times in this thread- what pray tell, might that be?

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38 minutes ago, pillred said:

Well if that's the case some difficult questions are going to have to be asked because there is no way normal life can be put on hold that long, what the solution is I have no idea but one will have to be found that may include some kind of compromise such as once you have had it you get an exemption certificate from a doctor from all the restrictions currently in place or something like that.

I think there needs to be definite science supporting immunity before thousands of people are allowed to run wild.

I get the "we can't go on like this forever" argument, I really do. But weigh that against the alternative of trying to get on with normal life whilst a lethal virus is being passed around unchecked.

There is no perfect answer, but given the choice, and assuming support for ALL people, I'd vote for remaining in the bunker for as long as we can.

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9 hours ago, Super said:

Pretty sure people were calling this lockdown on monday night. If it is its the most pathetic lockdown i have seen.

I look forward to your solutions to the complexity of an economy shutting down for the time being and maybe the foreseeable!

:thumbsup:

Your armchair general posts lack credibility without solutions IMO. Unnecessary travel, let along socialising is of course a different debate.

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59 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said:

405,000 signed up to act as NHS volunteers,makes you proud and shows this country isn’t just made up of selfish arseholses

There are some fantastic people out there, many more than the arseholes but the media tend to focus on them. It’s great news and credit to all those fantastic people 

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4 minutes ago, RedorDead BCFC said:

With these kits that say you have had it, does that mean you can not still carry it and pass it onto other people still? 

As I understand it, and fwiw, if you have had it, you should be immune and free from the virus - thats the idea and thats what needs to be fully tested to make sure that is the case. Hence the delay in getting it out in the public domain.

Anyone can pass it on via touch of course - so a person with immunity could pick up the virus on their hands for instance and pass it on that way. Same for anyone, its a case of making sure of regular washing of hands and keeping distance.

I stand to be corrected of course.

 

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29 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

I look forward to your solutions to the complexity of an economy shutting down for the time being and maybe the foreseeable!

:thumbsup:

Your armchair general posts lack credibility without solutions IMO. Unnecessary travel, let along socialising is of course a different debate.

This is about saving lives and not the economy.

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Are these sorts of test kits available in other countries, apparently my workplace are testing us on Monday. 

Happy at that we're going to be tested of course but annoyed as were not essential and would rather frontline workers were given these tests. 

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31 minutes ago, Super said:

This is about saving lives and not the economy.

Well aware of that but if people can't eat, can't afford to eat then society can break down very quickly- never mind the economy.

All very well to say 'Shut it down' but until a safety net is in place, it's more nuanced.

Then you have elderly/vulnerable at home...should carers avoid because they might spread it- if they have no family ties or what not, who fills the void if carers can no longer do it?

That's before we even get onto what @Roger Red Hat is saying? Far more to it than 'Lock us in'.

If it's all about saving lives and forget the economy, should we shut supermarkets, the financial markets and so on?

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55 minutes ago, pillred said:

Well if that's the case some difficult questions are going to have to be asked because there is no way normal life can be put on hold that long, what the solution is I have no idea but one will have to be found that may include some kind of compromise such as once you have had it you get an exemption certificate from a doctor from all the restrictions currently in place or something like that.

I think normal life will be on hold for a long time - although it’s possible rules might be relaxed from time to time.

There are only two ways this recedes: either we get a vaccine or herd immunity develops. The reason the original herd immunity strategy was abandoned is that it would have led to a massive overburdening of our critical care capacity. What’s happening now is an attempt to let the virus spread at a manageable rate - but that also slows the progress to herd immunity. Eradicating it in the UK, even if possible, wouldn’t resolve the problem unless we could absolutely isolate ourselves from the rest of the world until the virus was no longer a problem i.e. vaccine or global herd immunity,

One of the possibilities outlined in the Imperial College study is a series of periods of “tighter and looser” constraints - lockdown when there’s a risk of critical care beds being overburdened, relaxed temporarily when cases come down, then turned on again before capacity is threatened. I suspect that’s what we’ll see. Quite what “looser” would look like, I’ve no idea (shops but no pubs? Behind closed doors sport but none live?)

I can see problems with a position where those who have had the virus have advantages over those who haven’t: if some are working and earning (and able to circulate freely) whilst others aren’t, the latter would feel hard done by and, logically, would be given an incentive to expose themselves to the virus to get back to normal. And how would the authorities be able to ensure only those “permitted” are out and about? As I say, I don’t know the answers and am glad I'm not the one who has to make the decisions.

I strongly believe this initial lockdown will extend well beyond the next three weeks. I expect to see BJ in a couple of weeks congratulating us on our efforts, and telling us there are signs it’s working, so we just need to carry on for a while longer. 

The game changer would be if it turns out that a large number of people have had the virus. That would indicate that the proportion of sufferers who need hospital and critical care would be lower than currently projected, so that the disease could circulate more freely without jeopardising critical care capacity, and would allow us to get to herd immunity sooner. Fingers crossed.

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6 minutes ago, Super said:

This is about saving lives and not the economy.

Unfortunately it is also about having an economy when we get to the other side of this. An economy that will be in recession, with the double whammy of the Brexit idiocy that maybe dump us into a depression if Bozo carries on insisting on no extension to the talks and we leave with no deal.

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3 hours ago, One Team In Keynsham said:

Who would have thought Wetherspoon would take this sort of action? Were there any signs?

That said, in the interests of balance, if someone finds it to be a hoax, please put up a link.

 

Assume it is true as it has made it onto the main National news.

Not paying staff, not paying suppliers and hes also not paying Landlords rent either. 

What a despicable man.

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11 minutes ago, wood_red said:

Assume it is true as it has made it onto the main National news.

Not paying staff, not paying suppliers and hes also not paying Landlords rent either. 

What a despicable man.

"Tycoon in unacceptable behaviour shocker".

Granted he's taken it quite a bit far and granted capitalism is the best and least bad system but why should we be surprised.

Branson and Martin have not distinguished themselves during this. To be expected.

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38 minutes ago, Roger Red Hat said:

Unfortunately it is also about having an economy when we get to the other side of this. An economy that will be in recession, with the double whammy of the Brexit idiocy that maybe dump us into a depression if Bozo carries on insisting on no extension to the talks and we leave with no deal.

The economy will recover in time yes it might take a while. Saving lives takes priority or at least it should

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11 minutes ago, Super said:

The economy will recover in time yes it might take a while. Saving lives takes priority or at least it should

I trust the Government will therefore be stepping in to ensure those that lost work during this time or had to stop working to ensure they do not go hungry.

If they do not, expect society to fracture at some stage in your scenario,

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3 minutes ago, hodge said:

A 21 year old with no underlying health concerns has died after contracting the virus 

Do you get the feeling we're not being told the complete story concerning this virus.

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I see @joe jordans teeth banging the drum about volunteering in action.

Key worker or key poster? Wonder what that poster does to make them so pious.

Surmise they are either a key worker, doing volunteering themselves- or they are spouting off, full of it.

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7 minutes ago, hodge said:

A 21 year old with no underlying health concerns has died after contracting the virus 

This is a game changer to be honest. I fear we could see more cases like this in the coming weeks/months. Maybe its the sort of shitting up my generation need as there are still plenty 18-30 yr olds not taking this virus seriously enough.

 

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6 hours ago, Frenchay Red said:

Apparently in good health.

So why has he been tested?

Yes I know, Royal privilege etc. Blah blah.

But a lot more front line folk at risk would love to be tested.

His age puts him at risk that's why he was tested and rightly so. 

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4 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said:

What exactly is your problem,I’m certainly not a key poster and not a key worker as of today 

But did you ask for a statue to be put up in your honour :laughcont:

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