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The Coronavirus and how it impacts on sport

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1 minute ago, Kykoliko said:

"Educate yourself" isn't going to cut it I'm afraid. I would honestly like to hear more about your stance on this.

Who the **** do you think you are exactly  ?  

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3 minutes ago, pillred said:

Noticed that on Breakfast this morning, if the death toll had gone up by even one over the previous day we would not have heard the end of it but the toll is less than half the previous day and it gets a passing mention, was not surprised though.

Agreed but I don't think it's helping to group people into "doom mongers" and "selfish idiots" because it reads like a Lee Johnson thread with happy clappers and LJ haters.

As per posts above: we don't know, nobody knows. People are entitled to speculate and analyse the data, as that's what the experts are doing, but the current light lockdown is designed to head off an imminent spike in cases for the NHS to deal with so I think makes sense either way for now.

When the data from the testing is in then some hard decisions will have to be made because the effect in the round has to be assessed.  There are real world consequences from the lockdown: people will lose money, livelihoods, businesses, and homes. There will be suicides.

Important as it is there are more things to consider than the virus.

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6 minutes ago, Vincent Vega said:

Who the **** do you think you are exactly  ?  

Oof. Easy on the fragile ego there.

I'm just a guy that is genuinely curious as to why you violently refuse to expand on why you would single out a country and wish suffering upon them as a consequence of this global problem.

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3 hours ago, glos old boy said:

🥶 are you choosing to ignore the current 50% drop in deaths in the last 2 days? way from over but a tiny shaft of light maybe? or are we in fact doomed to a painfull death in a sea of loo roll.

The rise in 'infections' continues to rise and most of that figure each day is people in hospital. The increased numbers will strain the resources of the NHS massively and it'll be a case of choosing who lives and who doesn't if it continues to rise. 

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5 minutes ago, Eddie Hitler said:

Agreed but I don't think it's helping to group people into "doom mongers" and "selfish idiots" because it reads like a Lee Johnson thread with happy clappers and LJ haters.

As per posts above: we don't know, nobody knows. People are entitled to speculate and analyse the data, as that's what the experts are doing, but the current light lockdown is designed to head off an imminent spike in cases for the NHS to deal with so I think makes sense either way for now.

When the data from the testing is in then some hard decisions will have to be made because the effect in the round has to be assessed.  There are real world consequences from the lockdown: people will lose money, livelihoods, businesses, and homes. There will be suicides.

Important as it is there are more things to consider than the virus.

Everyone likes a good conspiracy... it's what keeps forums going and might explain the rise of social media

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22 hours ago, Vincent Vega said:

I hope China crashes and burns after the shit storm it's put on the whole world to be honest.

That's right, a couple of billion innocent people should take the flack for the actions of a few. 

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3 hours ago, Redpool said:

Hearing that NHS Nightingale will be fitted with 2 morgues. Very sad but it sounds more like a place to send those who will more than likely lose their life. 4000 beds to be fitted. I don’t think we’ve even scratched the surface yet in terms of deaths in this country.

Don't agree with you, let's hope I'm right and your wrong.

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18 minutes ago, pillred said:

Noticed that on Breakfast this morning, if the death toll had gone up by even one over the previous day we would not have heard the end of it but the toll is less than half the previous day and it gets a passing mention, was not surprised though.

Well that's because it hasn't gone down, they've just changed the way they report them:

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4 minutes ago, pillred said:

Don't agree with you, let's hope I'm right and your wrong.

Yes, I'm sure that you know more than every scientist and emergency planner in the world eh.

Give me strength.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52043896

Barclays sent me a text yesterday indicating that if I use my overdraft, I won't be charged interest till after 30th April. Nothing like encouraging customers to use something and then bang, you are hit with overdraft rates. Is there some magic timeline I don't know about or a pot of money that will magically appear before 30th April? The cynic in me thinks the banks are taking the piss and trying to make money out of a crisis.

No wonder their reputation is on a par with solicitors/lawyers.

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7 minutes ago, bcfcfinker said:

Everyone likes a good conspiracy... it's what keeps forums going and might explain the rise of social media

Yes, I've read that it was a weapon created by the Chinese against the West and the US against the Chinese.

Well it's not a very good weapon when it's killing both!

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7 minutes ago, pillred said:

Don't agree with you, let's hope I'm right and your wrong.

Not sure what you don't agree with?  That Hospital Nightingale is the new name for ExCel Centre?  Or that it's going to have 4000 beds across 2 wards? Or that it's going to contain a morgue?  Or that maybe we haven't seen anywhere near the number of fatalities from this virus (in your opinion)...?  I suggest if you know more than the doctors, nurses and scientists involved in this, you immediately head up the NHS task force.

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3 minutes ago, Kykoliko said:

Oof. Easy on the fragile ego there.

I'm just a guy that is genuinely curious as to why you violently refuse to expand on why you would single out a country and wish suffering upon them as a consequence of this global problem.

Ok I'll pander to you. Let's call me John . 

John is a self employed Carpenter with a small cabinet making business.  John has a 9 year old daughter.  John enjoys football on a Saturday and spending time with his wife and family. Now one day some sick minded Chinese person who likes to stuff live animals in cages so they can eat them ,sometimes alive ! Scoffs down **** knows what bat, lizard ,dog ,******* unicorn maybe and guess what this new virus is born. Obviously they didn't think it would happen, apart from the fact it had happened a few years previously.  Now back to John and his boring life . Suddenly John's family are in danger his older frail relatives have to self isolate and are in real danger of death due to underlying health issues.  John's business is ****** it relied on working in people's homes. Now John is home Schooling his daughter because obviously all the schools are closed. They can only leave their home for essentials which are sometimes difficult to get because of panic buying .This situation is repeated in every city across the world . So to summarise  

                 **** YOU CHINA.

 

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3 minutes ago, Eddie Hitler said:

Yes, I've read that it was a weapon created by the Chinese against the West and the US against the Chinese.

Well it's not a very good weapon when it's killing both!

That will be the law of unintended consequences coming into play.

My mate's mate, told him that if you drink tonic water, the quinine will protect you for Corona. I said it probably needs to be drunk with a lot of gin and you won't care.

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9 minutes ago, bcfcfinker said:

That will be the law of unintended consequences coming into play.

My mate's mate, told him that if you drink tonic water, the quinine will protect you for Corona. I said it probably needs to be drunk with a lot of gin and you won't care.

I can actually believe that.....The stuff's so revolting, I've given it a wide berth for years! 😉

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29 minutes ago, pillred said:

Noticed that on Breakfast this morning, if the death toll had gone up by even one over the previous day we would not have heard the end of it but the toll is less than half the previous day and it gets a passing mention, was not surprised though.

It may look encouraging and I'll take any positive from this situation.

But the reality is that it is more than likely to go up from here for quite a while if you take into account what the experts are saying. If we have anywhere around 20k fatalities then, in their eyes, that would be a huge relief. Italy and Spain are on their way to those sort of figures and they are a bit in front of us in terms of time. I'm not sure that figures coming out of China are accurate tbh.

The experts seem to think that if this lock down works, and the analysis from the retrospective testing is positive, then the NHS will cope. But, for me, the Chancellors resolution for the self employed will also have a bearing on that. Get it right and the lock down is strengthened, get it wrong and, without legislation to stop hundreds of thousands of people going out to earn money, it could go horribly wrong.

 

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4 hours ago, Redpool said:

Hearing that NHS Nightingale will be fitted with 2 morgues. Very sad but it sounds more like a place to send those who will more than likely lose their life. 4000 beds to be fitted. I don’t think we’ve even scratched the surface yet in terms of deaths in this country.

All hospitals have morgues of course. Nothing out of the ordinary there.

I think it's likely that the group of people you're talking about will be kept comfortable at home and won't get anywhere near a hospital as this escalates

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6 minutes ago, Pheasant plucker said:

I can actually believe that.....The stuff's so revolting, I've given it a wide berth for years! 😉

Tonic water originally was used for malaria protection, had far, far more quinine in and tasted far worse.

The quinine type drugs touted as helping limit coronavirus symptoms are (I read somewhere) the equivalent of about 200 modern gin and tonics per dose, so probably more harm than good done there!

Unfortunately the initial evidence for these drugs was anecdotal and the first controlled test results don't look great.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52045797

Is this an indicator of what is on the way after all of this has blown over?

Taxes will be raised no doubt to pay back all of the money spent on this debacle.
I suspect austerity will be reimposed.
Environmental policies will fall by the wayside.
 

Bottom line, a shit storm might be on its way.

On the bright side, I'm expecting BCFC to be promoted in the next millennia or two.

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32 minutes ago, Vincent Vega said:

Ok I'll pander to you. Let's call me John . 

John is a self employed Carpenter with a small cabinet making business.  John has a 9 year old daughter.  John enjoys football on a Saturday and spending time with his wife and family. Now one day some sick minded Chinese person who likes to stuff live animals in cages so they can eat them ,sometimes alive ! Scoffs down **** knows what bat, lizard ,dog ,******* unicorn maybe and guess what this new virus is born. Obviously they didn't think it would happen, apart from the fact it had happened a few years previously.  Now back to John and his boring life . Suddenly John's family are in danger his older frail relatives have to self isolate and are in real danger of death due to underlying health issues.  John's business is ****** it relied on working in people's homes. Now John is home Schooling his daughter because obviously all the schools are closed. They can only leave their home for essentials which are sometimes difficult to get because of panic buying .This situation is repeated in every city across the world . So to summarise  

                 **** YOU CHINA.

 

Hope this helps.

So, let me get this straight. You "hope China burns" because you think a virus was born because "some sick minded Chinese person" ate a bat or lizard? What makes them sick-minded to you?

You claimed that this has been predicted by "the experts" for many years. Despite the warnings, you have nothing to say about the governments that failed to adequately prepare?

Nothing to say about the people ignoring governmental instructions when they finally came?

Nothing to say about the fact that the situation in China has been relatively well managed, compared to the rest of the world?

 

If you truly want what is best for the world right now, please keep your narrow-minded, bigoted and downright xenophobic thoughts to yourself. We don't need people like you.

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2 minutes ago, Kykoliko said:

So, let me get this straight. You "hope China burns" because you think a virus was born because "some sick minded Chinese person" ate a bat or lizard? What makes them sick-minded to you?

You claimed that this has been predicted by "the experts" for many years. Despite the warnings, you have nothing to say about the governments that failed to adequately prepare?

Nothing to say about the people ignoring governmental instructions when they finally came?

Nothing to say about the fact that the situation in China has been relatively well managed, compared to the rest of the world?

 

If you truly want what is best for the world as a whole, please keep your narrow-minded, bigoted and downright xenophobic thoughts to yourself. We don't need people like you.

Yes your so right about the government unable to prepare . Always someone else's fault. My heart bleeds for you . 

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9 minutes ago, Vincent Vega said:

Always someone else's fault.

That is literally what you're saying 😂

3 minutes ago, havanatopia said:

Not sure where to begin on this?!!!! Perhaps I simply won't bother.

No please do. There's been a lot of not bothering going around.

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10 minutes ago, bcfcfinker said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52045797

Is this an indicator of what is on the way after all of this has blown over?

Taxes will be raised no doubt to pay back all of the money spent on this debacle.
I suspect austerity will be reimposed.
Environmental policies will fall by the wayside.
 

Bottom line, a shit storm might be on its way.

On the bright side, I'm expecting BCFC to be promoted in the next millennia or two.

It'll be interesting to see how the government tackles the post-coronavirus tax problem. The Tories have historically always looked out for their own, which means tax cuts for the rich, but with so many people heading to unemployment, the money will have to come from somewhere. I don't think austerity will be a serious option either: if there are no jobs, you can't hammer the unemployed with ever greater cuts. We may see a significant change along the lines of introduction of universal basic income, where everyone gets paid a minimum salary. It'll cost a fortune of course, but it might be the best way forward

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1 hour ago, Stortz said:

There seems to be a lot of wishful thinking going on around this.

It seems about 50% of the population are trying to convince themselves that they already 'had it around Christmas'.

Not necessarily wishful thinking as this article will explain, the information comes from a legit media source rather than a fake news website 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.ccn.com/coronavirus-patient-zero-may-have-started-pandemic-in-november-or-earlier/

I’m not really one for conspiracy theories but my company had a significant percentage of Chinese customers up until this broke around Christmastime, around that time quite a few staff got sick myself included and i ended up being hospitalised a few days after attending the QPR away game, for me it’s too much of a coincidence 

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I don't agree with the whole crash and burn, but I also cannot see how this is not Chinas fault - unless the whole World are being lied to from where it originated. I will agree the Government(s) all around were not prepared, but if it didn't happen in the first place they wouldn't need to be prepared would they?

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6 minutes ago, Vincent Vega said:

Typical, push me for a answer then start crying when you don't agree.  Bless. 

 

Far from tears. You chaps are making this quarantine quite entertaining.

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2 minutes ago, wood_red said:

I don't agree with the whole crash and burn, but I also cannot see how this is not Chinas fault - unless the whole World are being lied to from where it originated. I will agree the Government(s) all around were not prepared, but if it didn't happen in the first place they wouldn't need to be prepared would they?

I accept I was harsh originally ( through anger ) but stand by everything else. Your point exactly backs me up but the clown above is not having any of it.

1 minute ago, Kykoliko said:

Far from tears. You chaps are making this quarantine quite entertaining.

True colours shining through. 

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8 minutes ago, wood_red said:

I don't agree with the whole crash and burn, but I also cannot see how this is not Chinas fault - unless the whole World are being lied to from where it originated. I will agree the Government(s) all around were not prepared, but if it didn't happen in the first place they wouldn't need to be prepared would they?

The point here is that unless it was a manufactured virus then no one is "responsible". You can reduce the risk of viruses being created but never completely eradicate it here so playing the blame game here is utterly absurd.

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17 minutes ago, walnutroof said:

Not necessarily wishful thinking as this article will explain, the information comes from a legit media source rather than a fake news website 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.ccn.com/coronavirus-patient-zero-may-have-started-pandemic-in-november-or-earlier/

I’m not really one for conspiracy theories but my company had a significant percentage of Chinese customers up until this broke around Christmastime, around that time quite a few staff got sick myself included and i ended up being hospitalised a few days after attending the QPR away game, for me it’s too much of a coincidence 

It's accepted that it emerged in China in October/ November, cases then exponentially grew in Hubei and onwards. Not every Chinese person instantly caught the disease in November at once to spread around the globe- for a start, people would have been dying all over in December.

How on earth would all the people claiming they've had it a) have caught it so quickly without the WHO or national governments noticing it and b) then not displayed the full symptoms of Covid-19?

It's nothing more than wishful thinking from people who suffered normal seasonal infections I'm afraid, as @Dr Balls has noted on this thread. The difference in scale will be all too clear in the UK within a couple of weeks.

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5 minutes ago, walnutroof said:

Not necessarily wishful thinking as this article will explain, the information comes from a legit media source rather than a fake news website 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.ccn.com/coronavirus-patient-zero-may-have-started-pandemic-in-november-or-earlier/

I’m not really one for conspiracy theories but my company had a significant percentage of Chinese customers up until this broke around Christmastime, around that time quite a few staff got sick myself included and i ended up being hospitalised a few days after attending the QPR away game, for me it’s too much of a coincidence 

That's interesting, and par for the course as far as the chinese goverrnment are concerned.

Were you hospitalised with flu-like or pneumonia symptoms where the cause was unclear? Were these symptoms cleared up by antibiotics? It seems like you are a prime candidate to get the fist antibody test to rule this in/out. It will definately give them a better picture of the spread of the virus.

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4 minutes ago, Kykoliko said:

The point here is that unless it was a manufactured virus then no one is "responsible". You can reduce the risk of viruses being created but never completely eradicate it here so playing the blame game here is utterly absurd.

Only thing absurd here is your defense of China, the country of origin of this virus that's pretty much ****** the world.

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21 minutes ago, Kykoliko said:

So, let me get this straight. You "hope China burns" because you think a virus was born because "some sick minded Chinese person" ate a bat or lizard? What makes them sick-minded to you?

You claimed that this has been predicted by "the experts" for many years. Despite the warnings, you have nothing to say about the governments that failed to adequately prepare?

Nothing to say about the people ignoring governmental instructions when they finally came?

Nothing to say about the fact that the situation in China has been relatively well managed, compared to the rest of the world?

 

If you truly want what is best for the world right now, please keep your narrow-minded, bigoted and downright xenophobic thoughts to yourself. We don't need people like you.

Animal corona type virus's have been observed in animals including bats for years. Plus it's been observed and reported that a lot of chinese practises risk the mutation of the virus enabling it to infect humans. A ticking time bomb were the words used I think. I have no idea what presure was applied following this but so can't comment on that. Do you not think the Chinese goverment should have acted?

Whilst the risk was known, the particular strain and it characteristics could not be, so not sure how we could have prepared? What would you have done?

I'm not sure I believe we can assess who has managed it well at this point.

Should, as suspected, the virus be a result of chinese practises, I would hope they are dealt with accordingly and the goverment forced to deal with the risks the behaviour of some of it's people cause. Why wouldn't you try and prevent re-occurances? 

 

 

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1 hour ago, bcfcfinker said:

Everyone likes a good conspiracy... it's what keeps forums going and might explain the rise of social media

How about this one 

The corona Virus travelled entire world from Wuhan but it did not reach Beijing and Shanghai... can anybody put light?

Looks So Logical....After all Chinese Stock Market didn't crash....American and European Markets did.

Destroy other markets and be ready to capture them in every way How to dominate the world quickly?

THE GREAT CHINESE STAGE

1. Create a virus and the antidote.

2. Spread the virus.

3. A demonstration of efficiency, building hospitals in a few days. After all, you were already prepared, with the projects, ordering the equipment, hiring the labor, the water and sewage network, the prefabricated building materials and stocked in an impressive volume.

4. Cause chaos in the world, starting with Europe.

5. Quickly plaster the economy of dozens of countries.

6. Stop production lines in factories in other countries.

7. Cause stock markets to fall and buy companies at a bargain price.

8. Quickly control the epidemic in your country. After all, you were already prepared.

9. Lower the price of commodities, including the price of oil you buy on a large scale.

10. Get back to producing quickly while the world is at a standstill. Buy what you negotiated cheaply in the crisis and sell more expensive what is lacking in countries that have paralyzed their industries.

PS: Pl read the book by Chinese colonels Qiao Liang and Wang Xiangsui, from 1999, “Unrestricted Warfare: China’s master plan to destroy America”, on Amazon. It's all there. Worth pondering..

Just Think about this... How come Russia & North Korea are totally free of Covid- 19?

Because they are staunch ally of China.

Not a single case reported from this 2 countries. On the other hand South Korea / United Kingdom / Italy / Spain and Asia are severely hit.

How come Wuhan is suddenly free from the deadly virus? China will say that their drastic initial measures they took was very stern and Wuhan was locked down to contain the spread to other areas.

I am sure they are using the Anti dode of the virus. Why Beijing was not hit? Why only Wuhan?

Kind of interesting to ponder upon.. right? Well ..Wuhan is open for business now.

America and all the above mentioned countries are devastated financially. Soon American economy will collapse as planned by China. China knows it CANNOT defeat America militarily as USA is at present THE MOST POWERFUL country in the world. So use the virus...to cripple the economy and paralyse the nation and its Defense capabilities.

I'm sure Nancy Pelosi got a part in this. . to topple Trump.

Lately President Trump was always telling of how GREAT American economy was improving in all fronts.

The only way to destroy his vision of making AMERICA GREAT AGAIN is to create an economic havoc.

Nancy Pelosi was unable to bring down Trump thru impeachment. ....so work along with China to destroy Trump by releasing a virus. Wuhan,s epidemic was a showcase. At the peak of the virus epidemic. .. China's President Xi Jinping...just wore a simple RM1 facemask to visit those effected areas.

As President he should be covered from head to toe.....but it was not the case. He was already injected to resist any harm from the virus....that means a cure was already in place before the virus was released. Some may ask....Bill Gates already predicted the outbreak in 2015...so the chinese agenda cannot be true. The answer is. ..YES...Bill Gates did predict. .but that prediction is based on a genuine virus outbreak.

Now China is also telling that the virus was predicted well in advance. ....so that its agenda would play along well to match that prediction. China,s vision is to control the World economy by buying up stocks now from countries facing the brink of severe ECONOMIC COLLAPSE. Later China will announce that their Medical Researchers have found a cure to destroy the virus.

Now China have other countries stocks in their arsenal and these countries will soon be slave to their master...CHINA. Just Think about it ... The Doctor Who declared this virus was also Silenced by the Chinese Authorities

 

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3 minutes ago, RedorDead BCFC said:

How about this one 

 

The corona Virus travelled entire world from Wuhan but it did not reach Beijing and Shanghai... can anybody put light? Looks So Logical....After all Chinese Stock Market didn't crash....American and European Markets did.... Destroy other markets and be ready to capture them in every way How to dominate the world quickly? THE GREAT CHINESE STAGE 1. Create a virus and the antidote. 2. Spread the virus. 3. A demonstration of efficiency, building hospitals in a few days. After all, you were already prepared, with the projects, ordering the equipment, hiring the labor, the water and sewage network, the prefabricated building materials and stocked in an impressive volume. 4. Cause chaos in the world, starting with Europe. 5. Quickly plaster the economy of dozens of countries. 6. Stop production lines in factories in other countries. 7. Cause stock markets to fall and buy companies at a bargain price. 8. Quickly control the epidemic in your country. After all, you were already prepared. 9. Lower the price of commodities, including the price of oil you buy on a large scale. 10. Get back to producing quickly while the world is at a standstill. Buy what you negotiated cheaply in the crisis and sell more expensive what is lacking in countries that have paralyzed their industries. PS: Pl read the book by Chinese colonels Qiao Liang and Wang Xiangsui, from 1999, “Unrestricted Warfare: China’s master plan to destroy America”, on Amazon. It's all there. Worth pondering.. Just Think about this... How come Russia & North Korea are totally free of Covid- 19? Because they are staunch ally of China. Not a single case reported from this 2 countries. On the other hand South Korea / United Kingdom / Italy / Spain and Asia are severely hit. How come Wuhan is suddenly free from the deadly virus? China will say that their drastic initial measures they took was very stern and Wuhan was locked down to contain the spread to other areas. I am sure they are using the Anti dode of the virus. Why Beijing was not hit? Why only Wuhan? Kind of interesting to ponder upon.. right? Well ..Wuhan is open for business now. America and all the above mentioned countries are devastated financially. Soon American economy will collapse as planned by China. China knows it CANNOT defeat America militarily as USA is at present THE MOST POWERFUL country in the world. So use the virus...to cripple the economy and paralyse the nation and its Defense capabilities. I'm sure Nancy Pelosi got a part in this. . to topple Trump. Lately President Trump was always telling of how GREAT American economy was improving in all fronts. The only way to destroy his vision of making AMERICA GREAT AGAIN is to create an economic havoc. Nancy Pelosi was unable to bring down Trump thru impeachment. ....so work along with China to destroy Trump by releasing a virus. Wuhan,s epidemic was a showcase. At the peak of the virus epidemic. .. China's President Xi Jinping...just wore a simple RM1 facemask to visit those effected areas. As President he should be covered from head to toe.....but it was not the case. He was already injected to resist any harm from the virus....that means a cure was already in place before the virus was released. Some may ask....Bill Gates already predicted the outbreak in 2015...so the chinese agenda cannot be true. The answer is. ..YES...Bill Gates did predict. .but that prediction is based on a genuine virus outbreak. Now China is also telling that the virus was predicted well in advance. ....so that its agenda would play along well to match that prediction. China,s vision is to control the World economy by buying up stocks now from countries facing the brink of severe ECONOMIC COLLAPSE. Later China will announce that their Medical Researchers have found a cure to destroy the virus. Now China have other countries stocks in their arsenal and these countries will soon be slave to their master...CHINA. Just Think about it ... The Doctor Who declared this virus was also Silenced by the Chinese Authorities

@RedorDead BCFC No offence, but that post needs some serious editing !

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33 minutes ago, Kykoliko said:

No please do. There's been a lot of not bothering going around.

They all started in China.

Lifestyle and laws could be amended to ensure cross over of diseases from animals to humans is minimalised; there is little to no evidence this has been enacted by Chinese authorities. 

Does this adequately explain? 

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11 minutes ago, RedorDead BCFC said:

How about this one 

The corona Virus travelled entire world from Wuhan but it did not reach Beijing and Shanghai... can anybody put light?

Looks So Logical....After all Chinese Stock Market didn't crash....American and European Markets did.

Destroy other markets and be ready to capture them in every way How to dominate the world quickly?

THE GREAT CHINESE STAGE

1. Create a virus and the antidote.

2. Spread the virus.

3. A demonstration of efficiency, building hospitals in a few days. After all, you were already prepared, with the projects, ordering the equipment, hiring the labor, the water and sewage network, the prefabricated building materials and stocked in an impressive volume.

4. Cause chaos in the world, starting with Europe.

5. Quickly plaster the economy of dozens of countries.

6. Stop production lines in factories in other countries.

7. Cause stock markets to fall and buy companies at a bargain price.

8. Quickly control the epidemic in your country. After all, you were already prepared.

9. Lower the price of commodities, including the price of oil you buy on a large scale.

10. Get back to producing quickly while the world is at a standstill. Buy what you negotiated cheaply in the crisis and sell more expensive what is lacking in countries that have paralyzed their industries.

PS: Pl read the book by Chinese colonels Qiao Liang and Wang Xiangsui, from 1999, “Unrestricted Warfare: China’s master plan to destroy America”, on Amazon. It's all there. Worth pondering..

Just Think about this... How come Russia & North Korea are totally free of Covid- 19?

Because they are staunch ally of China.

Not a single case reported from this 2 countries. On the other hand South Korea / United Kingdom / Italy / Spain and Asia are severely hit.

How come Wuhan is suddenly free from the deadly virus? China will say that their drastic initial measures they took was very stern and Wuhan was locked down to contain the spread to other areas.

I am sure they are using the Anti dode of the virus. Why Beijing was not hit? Why only Wuhan?

Kind of interesting to ponder upon.. right? Well ..Wuhan is open for business now.

America and all the above mentioned countries are devastated financially. Soon American economy will collapse as planned by China. China knows it CANNOT defeat America militarily as USA is at present THE MOST POWERFUL country in the world. So use the virus...to cripple the economy and paralyse the nation and its Defense capabilities.

I'm sure Nancy Pelosi got a part in this. . to topple Trump.

Lately President Trump was always telling of how GREAT American economy was improving in all fronts.

The only way to destroy his vision of making AMERICA GREAT AGAIN is to create an economic havoc.

Nancy Pelosi was unable to bring down Trump thru impeachment. ....so work along with China to destroy Trump by releasing a virus. Wuhan,s epidemic was a showcase. At the peak of the virus epidemic. .. China's President Xi Jinping...just wore a simple RM1 facemask to visit those effected areas.

As President he should be covered from head to toe.....but it was not the case. He was already injected to resist any harm from the virus....that means a cure was already in place before the virus was released. Some may ask....Bill Gates already predicted the outbreak in 2015...so the chinese agenda cannot be true. The answer is. ..YES...Bill Gates did predict. .but that prediction is based on a genuine virus outbreak.

Now China is also telling that the virus was predicted well in advance. ....so that its agenda would play along well to match that prediction. China,s vision is to control the World economy by buying up stocks now from countries facing the brink of severe ECONOMIC COLLAPSE. Later China will announce that their Medical Researchers have found a cure to destroy the virus.

Now China have other countries stocks in their arsenal and these countries will soon be slave to their master...CHINA. Just Think about it ... The Doctor Who declared this virus was also Silenced by the Chinese Authorities

 

Hahaha, I reckon Alex Jones used his best crayons for that one!

Absolutely reeks of 4Chan.

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25 minutes ago, Kykoliko said:

The point here is that unless it was a manufactured virus then no one is "responsible". You can reduce the risk of viruses being created but never completely eradicate it here so playing the blame game here is utterly absurd.

Are you Chinese by any chance?

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4 minutes ago, havanatopia said:

They all started in China.

Lifestyle and laws could be amended to ensure cross over of diseases from animals to humans is minimalised; there is little to no evidence this has been enacted by Chinese authorities. 

Does this adequately explain? 

Yeah agreed, in a week or 2 9/11 will have killed less americans than corona virus has, and the perpetrators of that were obliterated.
This has been caused by either man made biological warfare, or barbaric medieval behaviour that has no place in the modern world, yet the Chinese government has stood by and let it happen. Perhaps there should be mass sanctions shutting the country down financially to pay for what they have done, thats assuming someone who can be a little erratic doesnt press a button and start vapourising key government institutions first.

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6 minutes ago, Stortz said:

Hahaha, I reckon Alex Jones used her best crayons for that one!

Absolutely reeks of 4Chan.

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2 hours ago, Stortz said:

There seems to be a lot of wishful thinking going on around this.

It seems about 50% of the population are trying to convince themselves that they already 'had it around Christmas'.

I’m sure many of us have seen the post that keeps getting shared on Facebook started by some dickshit woman up North telling people they’ve almost certainly had Covid-19 if they had a rough cold from November onwards. Judging by the number of people reposting it I think many are certain it was.

Really dangerous presumption to make 

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33 minutes ago, Kykoliko said:

Far from tears. You chaps are making this quarantine quite entertaining.

You don’t think China should be punished for this in anyway?

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2 minutes ago, Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan said:

I’m sure many of us have seen the post that keeps getting shared on Facebook started by some dickshit woman up North telling people they’ve almost certainly had Covid-19 if they had a rough cold from November onwards. Judging by the number of people reposting it I think many are certain it was.

Really dangerous presumption to make 

They'll definitely have had rough colds up North, they don't wear coats!

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1 hour ago, bcfcfinker said:

My mate's mate, told him that if you drink tonic water, the quinine will protect you for Corona. I said it probably needs to be drunk with a lot of gin and you won't care.

You’d have to drink Gallons of the stuff. 

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1 hour ago, bcfcfinker said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52043896

Barclays sent me a text yesterday indicating that if I use my overdraft, I won't be charged interest till after 30th April. Nothing like encouraging customers to use something and then bang, you are hit with overdraft rates. Is there some magic timeline I don't know about or a pot of money that will magically appear before 30th April? The cynic in me thinks the banks are taking the piss and trying to make money out of a crisis.

No wonder their reputation is on a par with solicitors/lawyers.

It`s on a par with the way they`re approaching the Business Interruption Loan Scheme (with a few notable exceptions - take a bow RBS) - demanding personal guarantees from business owners despite the government underwriting 80% of the loans.

The greedy, self-interested bastards are making sure they`re protected and **** everyone else. All in this together? Don`t make me laugh.

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