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The Coronavirus and how it impacts on sport

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Latest story on the Guardian feed. Utter c>nts if proven.

3m ago12:54

A 14-year-old boy has been arrested after a doctor was robbed on his way to hospital on Wednesday night.

The victim was forced to withdraw a “two-figure” sum from a cash machine after being approached by two people on foot and one on a bicycle in Harlow, Essex.

Police said the robbery, which began at around 9.25pm in Market Square, was one of three incidents in the town within an hour on Wednesday night which have been linked.

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50 minutes ago, Stortz said:

It's accepted that it emerged in China in October/ November, cases then exponentially grew in Hubei and onwards. Not every Chinese person instantly caught the disease in November at once to spread around the globe- for a start, people would have been dying all over in December.

How on earth would all the people claiming they've had it a) have caught it so quickly without the WHO or national governments noticing it and b) then not displayed the full symptoms of Covid-19?

It's nothing more than wishful thinking from people who suffered normal seasonal infections I'm afraid, as @Dr Balls has noted on this thread. The difference in scale will be all too clear in the UK within a couple of weeks.

I’m not a scientist but there’s two possibilities there, either it was treated as seasonal flu as nobody had even heard of covid-19 until February in this country and so early victims were assumed as having died of seasonal flu, or shortly after reaching Europe the virus mutated into a more serious strain, if i caught it I’d have caught the original strain which could be less serious. It’s interesting that they’re currently looking at the champions league game between Atlanta and Valencia as a possible reason for the two hotspots in Italy and Spain, this game was apparently played in Milan which has a connection with Wuhan

 

55 minutes ago, Sleepy1968 said:

That's interesting, and par for the course as far as the chinese goverrnment are concerned.

Were you hospitalised with flu-like or pneumonia symptoms where the cause was unclear? Were these symptoms cleared up by antibiotics? It seems like you are a prime candidate to get the fist antibody test to rule this in/out. It will definately give them a better picture of the spread of the virus.

I was hospitalised with inflamed lymph nodes shortly after the persistent cough finished, the consultant told me it was as a result of my body working overtime to fight an infection but they had no idea what the infection was, i spent three day’s being pumped with antiviral drugs and antibiotics and started feeling better about a week later 

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This virus is not doing my health anxiety any good at all - I thought after my CBT finished I'd finally got a handle on it, but this is ramping it right up to the top of the scale again.

Not helped by all the theories either (although I must say a couple of them I read today made me spit the cornflakes out - its apparently been caused by either 5G or a plague missile from North Korea, there are some right crackpots on social media and no mistake)

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43 minutes ago, Lew-T said:

You don’t think China should be punished for this in anyway?

How would you punish them?  Would you not want proof that it was started intentionally first? Or would you punish them anyway?

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3 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

How would you punish them?  Would you not want proof that it was started intentionally first? Or would you punish them anyway?

What a rather impertinent question. As far as I am concerned China is on this map of the world of ours simply to be punished. There should be absolutely no questioning of this exercise. It should be carried out with precision and decisiveness leaving the rest of us more healthy and happy.

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6 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

How would you punish them?  Would you not want proof that it was started intentionally first? Or would you punish them anyway?

Not sure anyone has said intentionally but that country has some serious issues.

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11 minutes ago, walnutroof said:

I’m not a scientist but there’s two possibilities there, either it was treated as seasonal flu as nobody had even heard of covid-19 until February in this country and so early victims were assumed as having died of seasonal flu, or shortly after reaching Europe the virus mutated into a more serious strain, if i caught it I’d have caught the original strain which could be less serious. It’s interesting that they’re currently looking at the champions league game between Atlanta and Valencia as a possible reason for the two hotspots in Italy and Spain, this game was apparently played in Milan which has a connection with Wuhan

 

I was hospitalised with inflamed lymph nodes shortly after the persistent cough finished, the consultant told me it was as a result of my body working overtime to fight an infection but they had no idea what the infection was, i spent three day’s being pumped with antiviral drugs and antibiotics and started feeling better about a week later 

You're missing the third, far more likely possibility; that it wasn't Covid-19 at all

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you didn't have some horrible virus you may not have had before, but as @Kid in the Riot said a couple of pages back, you would have been tested in hospital and a novel Coronavirus would have been easily identified at the time, and gained worldwide attention.

If it's been running wild in the UK for 4 months, why have thousands of people not succumbed to serious lung disease or died here already, given the pace we're watching both rise at now?

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2 minutes ago, Super said:

Not sure anyone has said intentionally but that country has some serious issues.

I've said it intentionally and stand by it. The blame for this sits squarely at the feet of China.

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1 hour ago, Bas's perfect hattrick said:

It'll be interesting to see how the government tackles the post-coronavirus tax problem. The Tories have historically always looked out for their own, which means tax cuts for the rich, but with so many people heading to unemployment, the money will have to come from somewhere. I don't think austerity will be a serious option either: if there are no jobs, you can't hammer the unemployed with ever greater cuts. We may see a significant change along the lines of introduction of universal basic income, where everyone gets paid a minimum salary. It'll cost a fortune of course, but it might be the best way forward

 

1 hour ago, bcfcfinker said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52045797

Is this an indicator of what is on the way after all of this has blown over?

Taxes will be raised no doubt to pay back all of the money spent on this debacle.
I suspect austerity will be reimposed.
Environmental policies will fall by the wayside.
 

Bottom line, a shit storm might be on its way.

On the bright side, I'm expecting BCFC to be promoted in the next millennia or two.

https://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2020/03/26/the-government-is-going-to-beat-coronavirus-using-modern-monetary-theory/ 

 

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9 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

How would you punish them?  Would you not want proof that it was started intentionally first? Or would you punish them anyway?

Take away the Hauwei 5G contract!

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9 minutes ago, Vincent Vega said:

I've said it intentionally and stand by it. The blame for this sits squarely at the feet of China.

It may well do but what are we going to do about it? China more a less run this planet right now and have a military and nuclear arsenal to match anyone. The west can moan all it likes but nothing will get done.

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18 minutes ago, Ronnie Sinclair said:

This virus is not doing my health anxiety any good at all - I thought after my CBT finished I'd finally got a handle on it, but this is ramping it right up to the top of the scale again.

Not helped by all the theories either (although I must say a couple of them I read today made me spit the cornflakes out - its apparently been caused by either 5G or a plague missile from North Korea, there are some right crackpots on social media and no mistake)

Definitely limit your time or remove social media apps would help. 

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2 minutes ago, bris red said:

It may well do but what are we going to do about it? China more a less run this planet right now and have a military and nuclear arsenal to match anyone. The west can moan all it likes but nothing will get done.

It's not what we can do about it that worries me. It's what Trump does about it .

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Q1..Please can I use a stepladder.........

Answer..No

Q2..Please can I take my hard hat off for 2 minutes while I work in a place where I can’t fit my head in if I keep it on.........

Answer..No

Q3..Please can I use a perfectly good drill that has a PAT test out of date by 1 day while I await re-testing........

Answer..No

Q4..Please can I run an extension lead across the floor for 5 minutes ...........

Answer..No

Q5..Please can I use another trades mobile scaffold which I am trained to build......

Answer..On many sites No

Q6..Please can I undo my chin strap in a building with enclosed windows when the temperature is about 90 degrees......

Answer..On many sites, No

Q7..Should I go to work on site when there is a global pandemic that is the most contagious thing ever known to man, travel on the tube squeezed in as usual with hundreds of other people, use a finger scanner for access and get in a small lift with 10 other blokes and a lift driver that stays in there all day........

Answer..Yes

Ok thanks.....as long as my health, safety and well-being remains your top priority I will crack on 👍🏼

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6 minutes ago, RedorDead BCFC said:

Q1..Please can I use a stepladder.........

Answer..No

Q2..Please can I take my hard hat off for 2 minutes while I work in a place where I can’t fit my head in if I keep it on.........

Answer..No

Q3..Please can I use a perfectly good drill that has a PAT test out of date by 1 day while I await re-testing........

Answer..No

Q4..Please can I run an extension lead across the floor for 5 minutes ...........

Answer..No

Q5..Please can I use another trades mobile scaffold which I am trained to build......

Answer..On many sites No

Q6..Please can I undo my chin strap in a building with enclosed windows when the temperature is about 90 degrees......

Answer..On many sites, No

Q7..Should I go to work on site when there is a global pandemic that is the most contagious thing ever known to man, travel on the tube squeezed in as usual with hundreds of other people, use a finger scanner for access and get in a small lift with 10 other blokes and a lift driver that stays in there all day........

Answer..Yes

Ok thanks.....as long as my health, safety and well-being remains your top priority I will crack on 👍🏼

Sums it up nicely :clap:

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Well we are now 14 hours into a full 58 hour curfew in the Cayman Islands. (7pm Wednesday night until 5am Saturday) No one is allowed out of their house (except into your private garden/balcony). all shops closed, only people on the streets are emergency services and medical/government staff. All because when the Gov announced a partial closedown of all non-essential business they were inundated by 20,000 applications form people/business who believed themselves to be "essential". This full curfew is to buy the Gov some time to sort out how the island will functional under a "new normal". We also, as a British Overseas Territory, need to keep a lid on our own infection (8 cases, 1 death) until such time as the UK has it's own house in order and can start supporting the vestiges of the Empire.

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46 minutes ago, walnutroof said:

I’m not a scientist but there’s two possibilities there, either it was treated as seasonal flu as nobody had even heard of covid-19 until February in this country and so early victims were assumed as having died of seasonal flu, or shortly after reaching Europe the virus mutated into a more serious strain, if i caught it I’d have caught the original strain which could be less serious. It’s interesting that they’re currently looking at the champions league game between Atlanta and Valencia as a possible reason for the two hotspots in Italy and Spain, this game was apparently played in Milan which has a connection with Wuhan

 

I was hospitalised with inflamed lymph nodes shortly after the persistent cough finished, the consultant told me it was as a result of my body working overtime to fight an infection but they had no idea what the infection was, i spent three day’s being pumped with antiviral drugs and antibiotics and started feeling better about a week later 

I was at that champions League game... Never seen a metro so busy... Thousands of Atalanta fans were coming into Milan from the infamous towns around Bergamo... Felt absolutely hanging when I came back to the UK and paranoid .. it was a relief to get the all clear.. 

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31 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

Well we are now 14 hours into a full 58 hour curfew in the Cayman Islands. (7pm Wednesday night until 5am Saturday) No one is allowed out of their house (except into your private garden/balcony). all shops closed, only people on the streets are emergency services and medical/government staff. All because when the Gov announced a partial closedown of all non-essential business they were inundated by 20,000 applications form people/business who believed themselves to be "essential". This full curfew is to buy the Gov some time to sort out how the island will functional under a "new normal". We also, as a British Overseas Territory, need to keep a lid on our own infection (8 cases, 1 death) until such time as the UK has it's own house in order and can start supporting the vestiges of the Empire.

I saw a pic this morning from a friend who lives at Laguna Del Mar: some idiot was paddle-boarding up 7MB, clearly part of the "rules don't apply to me" camp.

I saw the reports of the 20k+ applications for waiver: not bad from a workforce that can't be much over 30k.

My wife got over to England the day before the airport closed, but our dogs are still there, enjoying foster lockdown life at various places across the island.

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50 minutes ago, bris red said:

It may well do but what are we going to do about it? China more a less run this planet right now and have a military and nuclear arsenal to match anyone. The west can moan all it likes but nothing will get done.

There is something that can be done and that's not to buy their kit... superpower or no superpower, you can't argue with peoples choices.

It's a bit like Coronavirus, it knows no boundaries, it does not care, it is not out there to get you but it does require an individual to be a muppet and not follow some basic rules.

Get individuals to drop China produced kit and encourage the government to do the same and soon enough, China will get the message. This is an ideal and it's not going to happen.

Greta might not be everyone's cup of tea but she started a movement that is causing people to sit up and listen. Pity there is no 'Greta' for putting pressure on China.

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5 minutes ago, bcfcfinker said:

There is something that can be done and that's not to buy their kit... superpower or no superpower, you can't argue with peoples choices.

It's a bit like Coronavirus, it knows no boundaries, it does not care, it is not out there to get you but it does require an individual to be a muppet and not follow some basic rules.

Get individuals to drop China produced kit and encourage the government to do the same and soon enough, China will get the message. This is an ideal and it's not going to happen.

Hope everyone who wants to boycott China who owns a computer or phone  throw it in the bin and find one without parts made in China, and thats just from the tech side, now think of everything else you buy, and what component  parts of it comes from China.

Stupid strategy that would hurt us as well as them

 

Lets be realistic  you have no idea how many chinese components you have in your house.

 

We long since moved to service sector from manufacturing.  Horse/bolted

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6 minutes ago, TRL said:

Hope everyone who wants to boycott China who owns a computer or phone  throw it in the bin and find one without parts made in China, and thats just from the tech side, now think of everything else you buy, and what component  parts of it comes from China.

Stupid strategy that would hurt us as well as them

 

Lets be realistic  you have no idea how many chinese components you have in your house.

 

We long since moved to service sector from manufacturing.  Horse/bolted

To be clear, I understand everything you've said - I gave a nuclear solution to a 'what can we do' question.

As to your points, this is the 'we can't do anything because...' answer.
It's an inertia answer.

The real solution, if people 'really' want to do something, is to do something in the middle e.g. wean ourselves off of China and become self reliant - this would take years.

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12 minutes ago, One Team In Keynsham said:

Having visited Lyon for Euro 2016 and then for the 2018 Europa League final, with the obvious crowds both times, it is mad seeing the city like this.

 

That's mad. I have family there and visited many times so know how busy it can be. It's a beautiful city IMHO and it's tough to see it like that. Necessary certainly but sad all the same. :(

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11 minutes ago, One Team In Keynsham said:

Having visited Lyon for Euro 2016 and then for the 2018 Europa League final, with the obvious crowds both times, it is mad seeing the city like this.

 

Quite poignant and rams home the impact of this pandemic.

There was more people having a walk around Willsbridge, Hanham, Longwellgreen, today than in Lyon. I was in the car but I have to say that everyone was paying due respect to distancing and no groups at all.

 

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14 minutes ago, One Team In Keynsham said:

Having visited Lyon for Euro 2016 and then for the 2018 Europa League final, with the obvious crowds both times, it is mad seeing the city like this.

 

Never been but looks a beautiful city.  Plenty more in and around Europe looking much the same methinks.

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16 minutes ago, One Team In Keynsham said:

Having visited Lyon for Euro 2016 and then for the 2018 Europa League final, with the obvious crowds both times, it is mad seeing the city like this.

 

Love Lyon . Been many times, terrific place, great trip on the TGV, stay for a few weeks then onto Barcelona!

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1 hour ago, Stortz said:

You're missing the third, far more likely possibility; that it wasn't Covid-19 at all

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you didn't have some horrible virus you may not have had before, but as @Kid in the Riot said a couple of pages back, you would have been tested in hospital and a novel Coronavirus would have been easily identified at the time, and gained worldwide attention.

If it's been running wild in the UK for 4 months, why have thousands of people not succumbed to serious lung disease or died here already, given the pace we're watching both rise at now?

Time will tell, I’m a key worker living in London so social distancing is almost impossible so it’ll be interesting to see anything comes from that or not

I’m neither a scientist or conspiracy theorist and for the time being am saved from the boredom and frustration others are experiencing, but have read various reports about the virus mutating and causing other strains of the virus so that might be your answer right there. It seems for every  person who thinks this’ll blow over quickly there’s someone who thinks this won’t so guess we’ll just have to see how it plays out 

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7 minutes ago, BanburyRed said:

Never been but looks a beautiful city.  Plenty more in and around Europe looking much the same methinks.

It is stunning. Worth a visit when all this shite is behind us.

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I have to say, until scientists have been able to do more analysis, we don't know who or what caused the virus. We may never know. The causes of many great pandemics, including "Spanish flu", are just conjecture.

The dominant theory is that it began in Wuhan in November/December and may have some connection to the city's "wet market" and either bats or pangolins.

But there are problems with this: the form of bat coronavirus found in the kind of bats eaten in central China is only 96% a DNA match with Covid-19. That isn't normally close enough for a mutated virus to "jump species". As for pangolins, it's the scales that are ground up and used in (already banned) traditional medicine. These would be very unlikely to carry the virus, and pangolins only have a 90.3%match with the genetic material carried by Covid-19. Unlikely that they are either its direct source or even the "bridge" to forest bats. They are critically endangered for one thing.

Also, multiple reports suggest that neither bats or pangolins were sold in the wet market in Wuhan. Bat-eating being much more of a rural thing; something that is dying out in modern China.

You don't need to blame the peculiar eating habits of some Chinese for these zoonotic diseases. They are much more likely to come from everyday farm animals that everyone eats: chickens (SARS/MERS); pigs (Swine Fever), etc.

Moreover, research on many virus outbreaks has suggested they may have circulated for decades at a low-level before a mutation made them more dangerous and a "super-spreader" burst them into an epidemic. Although AIDS was first identified in New York in 1981, evidence now shows it was present in the Congo basin area in the 1930s and had reached the US by the 1960s. Deaths from it were chalked up to different causes.

So I personally wouldn't "blame China" for a virus mutation over which they would've had no control, and which may not even have originated there.

If there's blame to be attributed, we need to await the "inquest" on all this: and that may be years away.

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9 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

I have to say, until scientists have been able to do more analysis, we don't know who or what caused the virus. We may never know. The causes of many great pandemics, including "Spanish flu", are just conjecture.

The dominant theory is that it began in Wuhan in November/December and may have some connection to the city's "wet market" and either bats or pangolins.

But there are problems with this: the form of bat coronavirus found in the kind of bats eaten in central China is only 96% a DNA match with Covid-19. That isn't normally close enough for a mutated virus to "jump species". As for pangolins, it's the scales that are ground up and used in (already banned) traditional medicine. These would be very unlikely to carry the virus, and pangolins only have a 90.3%match with the genetic material carried by Covid-19. Unlikely that they are either its direct source or even the "bridge" to forest bats. They are critically endangered for one thing.

Also, multiple reports suggest that neither bats or pangolins were sold in the wet market in Wuhan. Bat-eating being much more of a rural thing; something that is dying out in modern China.

You don't need to blame the peculiar eating habits of some Chinese for these zoonotic diseases. They are much more likely to come from everyday farm animals that everyone eats: chickens (SARS/MERS); pigs (Swine Fever), etc.

Moreover, research on many virus outbreaks has suggested they may have circulated for decades at a low-level before a mutation made them more dangerous and a "super-spreader" burst them into an epidemic. Although AIDS was first identified in New York in 1981, evidence now shows it was present in the Congo basin area in the 1930s and had reached the US by the 1960s. Deaths from it were chalked up to different causes.

So I personally wouldn't "blame China" for a virus mutation over which they would've had no control, and which may not even have originated there.

If there's blame to be attributed, we need to await the "inquest" on all this: and that may be years away.

I've told you before @Red-Robbo don't be bringing facts and logic into debates on here.

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25 minutes ago, One Team In Keynsham said:

It is stunning. Worth a visit when all this shite is behind us.

Makes you wonder when this is all over, if any of the airlines are still standing/flying, whether the age of low cost fights will be temporarily forgotten as Ryanair, EasyJet etc hike their fares up as people book like crazy....

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4 hours ago, Kykoliko said:

So, let me get this straight. You "hope China burns" because you think a virus was born because "some sick minded Chinese person" ate a bat or lizard? What makes them sick-minded to you?

You claimed that this has been predicted by "the experts" for many years. Despite the warnings, you have nothing to say about the governments that failed to adequately prepare?

Nothing to say about the people ignoring governmental instructions when they finally came?

Nothing to say about the fact that the situation in China has been relatively well managed, compared to the rest of the world?

 

If you truly want what is best for the world right now, please keep your narrow-minded, bigoted and downright xenophobic thoughts to yourself. We don't need people like you.

Watch pandemic on Netflix, scarily accurate. Was released 22nd January, but filmed over the last 2 years. 

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2 minutes ago, BanburyRed said:

Makes you wonder when this is all over, if any of the airlines are still standing/flying, whether the age of low cost fights will be temporarily forgotten as Ryanair, EasyJet etc hike their fares up as people book like crazy....

I was chatting to my boss yesterday about holidays, and it came up that even if you picked a place open for business for tourism, would there actually be a carrier able to take you there. In assessing the possible long term fall-out of this situation, the only limitation is one's imagination.

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3 hours ago, Vincent Vega said:

Only thing absurd here is your defense of China, the country of origin of this virus that's pretty much ****** the world.

You might like to have a look at your own government, who deemed it appropriate to allow holidaymakers to gallavant all over the place until a couple of weeks ago. 

That was reckless in the extreme. All for the sake of a bit of sun and ski. Ridiculous. 

They knew it was coming weeks ago. I certainly did and made plans to move out of my home 5 weeks ago. I'm glad I did. I stopped all unnecessary movement 4 weeks ago including Ashton Gate. Except there were 20,000 idiots there well after me. 

Blame the Chinese government if you have to. Not the Chinese. Our government are dangerous a**holes who care nothing for the poor, but I'm not having my name associated with them, any more than a chinese person should with their dictatorial government. 

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7 minutes ago, BanburyRed said:

Makes you wonder when this is all over, if any of the airlines are still standing/flying, whether the age of low cost fights will be temporarily forgotten as Ryanair, EasyJet etc hike their fares up as people book like crazy....

Or they will be so desperate to get people on their services that flights are even cheaper?

When all this first started to break many flights prices were dropping through the floor

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2 minutes ago, phantom said:

Or they will be so desperate to get people on their services that flights are even cheaper?

When all this first started to break many flights prices were dropping through the floor

Easyjet already offering £29 flights in their winter schedule for October.

 

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3 minutes ago, phantom said:

Or they will be so desperate to get people on their services that flights are even cheaper?

When all this first started to break many flights prices were dropping through the floor

I think demand will be there, but supply will be limited. The risk of another surge in Coronavirus will be ever-present and airlines will want to be much smaller and financially frugal for the time being. 

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17 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said:

You might like to have a look at your own government, who deemed it appropriate to allow holidaymakers to gallavant all over the place until a couple of weeks ago. 

That was reckless in the extreme. All for the sake of a bit of sun and ski. Ridiculous. 

They knew it was coming weeks ago. I certainly did and made plans to move out of my home 5 weeks ago. I'm glad I did. I stopped all unnecessary movement 4 weeks ago including Ashton Gate. Except there were 20,000 idiots there well after me. 

Blame the Chinese government if you have to. Not the Chinese. Our government are dangerous a**holes who care nothing for the poor, but I'm not having my name associated with them, any more than a chinese person should with their dictatorial government. 

I can't blame my government for starting a worldwide pandemic.  They have no responsibility for it . Sorry you don't like it, but I and many others blame China simply because it's their fault.

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26 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

I have to say, until scientists have been able to do more analysis, we don't know who or what caused the virus. We may never know. The causes of many great pandemics, including "Spanish flu", are just conjecture.

The dominant theory is that it began in Wuhan in November/December and may have some connection to the city's "wet market" and either bats or pangolins.

But there are problems with this: the form of bat coronavirus found in the kind of bats eaten in central China is only 96% a DNA match with Covid-19. That isn't normally close enough for a mutated virus to "jump species". As for pangolins, it's the scales that are ground up and used in (already banned) traditional medicine. These would be very unlikely to carry the virus, and pangolins only have a 90.3%match with the genetic material carried by Covid-19. Unlikely that they are either its direct source or even the "bridge" to forest bats. They are critically endangered for one thing.

Also, multiple reports suggest that neither bats or pangolins were sold in the wet market in Wuhan. Bat-eating being much more of a rural thing; something that is dying out in modern China.

You don't need to blame the peculiar eating habits of some Chinese for these zoonotic diseases. They are much more likely to come from everyday farm animals that everyone eats: chickens (SARS/MERS); pigs (Swine Fever), etc.

Moreover, research on many virus outbreaks has suggested they may have circulated for decades at a low-level before a mutation made them more dangerous and a "super-spreader" burst them into an epidemic. Although AIDS was first identified in New York in 1981, evidence now shows it was present in the Congo basin area in the 1930s and had reached the US by the 1960s. Deaths from it were chalked up to different causes.

So I personally wouldn't "blame China" for a virus mutation over which they would've had no control, and which may not even have originated there.

If there's blame to be attributed, we need to await the "inquest" on all this: and that may be years away.

What you can blame China for is that in this day and age is that there are so many starving people there that they have no choice but to eat bats and the like,tried it when I was travelling years ago and I thought that tastes effing awful(it was a blind taste) even rat tasted better 

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17 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

Easyjet already offering £29 flights in their winter schedule for October.

 

Like the mysterious cheap tickets on Eurostar that are almost impossible to find!  Who knows how this will end up.  Less planes, less seats, more demand, higher prices?

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1 hour ago, One Team In Keynsham said:

I saw a pic this morning from a friend who lives at Laguna Del Mar: some idiot was paddle-boarding up 7MB, clearly part of the "rules don't apply to me" camp.

Sad isn't it. IMO whether you agree with the restrictions or not you still have a duty to abide by them as a citizen (or in my case guest) in a country. I don't necessarily agree with the restrictions, but I'm acting as instructed regardless. Cayman is tiny as you know and with such limited hospital care if this thing gets out we'll be hit hard at a time where we cannot rely on the US or UK for assistance. 

I saw the reports of the 20k+ applications for waiver: not bad from a workforce that can't be much over 30k.

And the CIG had one bloke monitoring one email inbox to deal with them 😂

My wife got over to England the day before the airport closed, but our dogs are still there, enjoying foster lockdown life at various places across the island.

Glad you managed to get your wife off the island. To be honest it's not been too bad here really. I've been fairly impressed with McLaughlin's leadership (for probably the first time sine moving here) - and he seemed embarrassed and exasperated at the number of "essential" applications the other day. Have to say I am glad I don't have a pet right now. 

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3 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said:

What you can blame China for is that in this day and age is that there are so many starving people there that they have no choice but to eat bats and the like,tried it when I was travelling years ago and I thought that tastes effing awful(it was a blind taste) even rat tasted better 

There are indeed lots to "blame" the government there for. Invading Tibet and virtually destroying its culture for one thing. I don't think we can necessarily blame 'em for a viral mutation though.

Interested you ate bat (and rat!), JJT.  I'd be too squeamish. I wimped out of the old locust-on-a-stick in Vietnam.

I'd be hopeless on I'm A Celebrity...

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20 minutes ago, BanburyRed said:

Like the mysterious cheap tickets on Eurostar that are almost impossible to find!  Who knows how this will end up.  Less planes, less seats, more demand, higher prices?

Cyprus from Bristol 28/10 - 08/11 for £57 return.

 

 

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