daored Posted April 25, 2020 Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 39 minutes ago, robin_unreliant said: Can you imagine no City fans if we got to a BCD play off final? There would be some who would try to get together near where it was played. Or people would get together locally. Just can't see how this could happen without causing a breakdown in social distancing... To be fair mate that’s the same for any club in the country. We simply can not have football being played whilst we are either in lockdown or testing is not widely available. How can you ask the public to observe the rules if you have football matches being played in this country and let’s not pretend the clubs are pushing this for the well-being of their supporters - it’s being driven by ££££ only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted April 25, 2020 Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 For me a likely financial solution for clubs could lie somewhere between Gary Neville's thoughts in the video and Darragh McAnthony who said about clubs receiving the money for year 5 of the sky tv deal now (think he said sky have already paid it out) and repaying it over seasons 2,3 and 4 of the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted April 25, 2020 Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 Latest EFL statement: https://www.efl.com/news/2020/april/efl-statement-coronavirus-update2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S25loyal Posted April 25, 2020 Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 8 hours ago, hodge said: The thing is we can’t know next season wouldn’t be uninterrupted, a second wave, back in lockdown and no way you fit a whole season in anyway Let’s be honest, I doubt it will ever be the same again. WHO saying you might be able to catch covid again, if that’s the case nothing will be “normal” again until a vaccine is found. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityloyal473 Posted April 25, 2020 Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 29 minutes ago, S25loyal said: Let’s be honest, I doubt it will ever be the same again. WHO saying you might be able to catch covid again, if that’s the case nothing will be “normal” again until a vaccine is found. Yep. Forget about going to AG for a year or so. Gonna be a very different footballing landscape when we are allowed back in again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talk Of The Town Posted April 25, 2020 Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 (edited) 34 minutes ago, S25loyal said: Let’s be honest, I doubt it will ever be the same again. WHO saying you might be able to catch covid again, if that’s the case nothing will be “normal” again until a vaccine is found. No vaccine for the common cold No vaccine for HIV There’s no guarantee a vaccine will be found. Life will be very different for now Edited April 25, 2020 by Bobby Bollax Mistake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted April 25, 2020 Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 33 minutes ago, S25loyal said: Let’s be honest, I doubt it will ever be the same again. WHO saying you might be able to catch covid again, if that’s the case nothing will be “normal” again until a vaccine is found. The point is a second wave means a second lockdown which then hampers playing a whole season again, its easier to keep this season alive where you've only got 10 or so games max for most clubs and then alter next season based on what you know months down the line. The regulations for a new season don't need to be set until this one finishes, you can make it a 19/23 game season if needed etc. If you void/finish the season now etc and it turns out you only have 3 months or so where you can play football in what would be the 19/20 season you may as well have just kept delaying this season and made it a 19/20/21 season. The point I was making was I quoted a post that said this season should be kept alive until it impacts next season where there is no guarantee of a whole next season anyway even if it could start on time in August. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted April 25, 2020 Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 Completely random idea that just cropped into my head if you need a very quick potential solution to leagues if football resumes but very few more games able to be played before starting a new season in August (unlikely situation I know) rather than the calls to void this season. No automatic promotion and everyone in their leagues play off spot enters the play offs, in the champ you'd have 3rd vs 6th at 3rd's ground and 4th vs 5th at 4th ground both in 1 legged games to give some advantage to the team in the higher position for only being 1 game. Winner of 4th vs 5th would then face 1st place in 1 game at 1st place ground and same for 2nd vs winner of 3rd/6th, then a play off final at wherever is deemed best place for it. League 2 you'd have a 6th vs 7th game first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Humble Realist Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 Things could get quite complex. Premier league may well finish so teams can come down and be relegated but not so sure about our league. Despite all the money there isnt enough money for teams to be on 'lockdown ' for 6 weeks, especially if the premier league is doing it at the same time . Also, even things u take for granted like refs and linesman will need to quarantine. With the money in the prem this is no problem but in our league it wont be as easy a sell so perhaps a 'points per game ' style finish will be implemented followed by the play offs. It's so annoying (from a purely football perspective) that we aren't sat in 6th rather than 7th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunsupport Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 Nagy is at Budapest now for more than 2 weeks (as he said compulsory home quarantine is over and it's 2 weeks here from the point a Hungarian citizen enters the country). He came home after the 3rd week. He gave Skype interview and one as well to the papers yesterday, some insights on Bristol City training as well. main points were: 1, they trained via online video conference for the first 2 weeks, after that they got 2 weeks vacation (as they won't have any in the summer) and now they're trainig again together via online (mainly biking and gym work) 2, he will travel back 10-14 days before the first training 3, people are much less disciplined in England, for him it is weird why they can't follow rules 4, he says from his perspective as they're professionals they can't moan about maintaining motivation (though its not easy) or playing in empty stadiums as the olimpicons are in much worse position preparing 4 years for basically nothing 5, binary feelings about re-start of the season: he thinks the later it starts the more the players will be "gutted" next season. But when it starts people will gather in pubs, restaurants; he believes it will be regulated by the government and he is very eager to restart 6, his ankle: that little bone has now enough time to encapsulate and then it will turn out very soon after restart if the rest was enough or does it still cause pain. they consulted about it with the medical team before he travelled home Also he got a home hair cut and now looks like an 18 years old academy player.... http://www.nemzetisport.hu/legiosok/legiosok-nehez-fenntartani-a-motivaciot-nagy-adam-2759543 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, Hunsupport said: Nagy is at Budapest now for more than 2 weeks (as he said compulsory home quarantine is over and it's 2 weeks here from the point a Hungarian citizen enters the country). He came home after the 3rd week. He gave Skype interview and one as well to the papers yesterday, some insights on Bristol City training as well. main points were: 1, they trained via online video conference for the first 2 weeks, after that they got 2 weeks vacation (as they won't have any in the summer) and now they're trainig again together via online (mainly biking and gym work) 2, he will travel back 10-14 days before the first training 3, people are much less disciplined in England, for him it is weird why they can't follow rules 4, he says from his perspective as they're professionals they can't moan about maintaining motivation (though its not easy) or playing in empty stadiums as the olimpicons are in much worse position preparing 4 years for basically nothing 5, binary feelings about re-start of the season: he thinks the later it starts the more the players will be "gutted" next season. But when it starts people will gather in pubs, restaurants; he believes it will be regulated by the government and he is very eager to restart 6, his ankle: that little bone has now enough time to encapsulate and then it will turn out very soon after restart if the rest was enough or does it still cause pain. they consulted about it with the medical team before he travelled home Also he got a home hair cut and now looks like an 18 years old academy player.... http://www.nemzetisport.hu/legiosok/legiosok-nehez-fenntartani-a-motivaciot-nagy-adam-2759543 Well let's hope he gets back before Boris puts all UK arrivals in mandatory quarantine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunsupport Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: Well let's hope he gets back before Boris puts all UK arrivals in mandatory quarantine. He will count with that if that happens, I assume the club let him go with the clause he will be there in time for the trainings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS2 Red Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 On 25/04/2020 at 18:51, S25loyal said: Let’s be honest, I doubt it will ever be the same again. WHO saying you might be able to catch covid again, if that’s the case nothing will be “normal” again until a vaccine is found. If you can catch Covid-19 again, then there’s not likely to ever be a vaccine. The WHO have only really said that they have no evidence of immunity, that’s not the same thing as immunity not existing. It’s early days, they are just being careful until they have proper evidence. It’s highly unlikely that immunity isn’t gained after having it though. Covid-19 is a virus and humans will produce antibodies that combat it. There’ll be freak cases where a tiny proportion of people catch it twice, but that’ll be problems with their immune systems, not the virus. The big danger is that this virus acts like flu and mutates quickly. That’ll mean we will be in danger of catching it over and over because it’ll be a “new” disease every year/few years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lanterne Rouge Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 31 minutes ago, hodge said: I`ve said this right from the start - they`ll want something to boost morale during the restrictions the longer they went on and this was always going to be a relatively easy one to do. Racing and cricket behind closed doors will follow I expect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 I don't see any point whatsoever in a vaccine being considered a silver bullet. Like flu this is already mutating in, by one report, 30 variants and yet flu still kills upwards of 600,000 a year. On 26/04/2020 at 02:23, Bobby Bollax said: No vaccine for the common cold No vaccine for HIV There’s no guarantee a vaccine will be found. Life will be very different for now It's a pity we do not have a world leader right now who can stamp their authority on this and take a lead. We are seeing a speeded up transferring of power from the USA to China because of that and because of this lockdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ever-red Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 3 hours ago, hodge said: I read that as stop Arsenal training Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 'Fifa proposes use of 5 subs to help with fixture congestion' https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52443195 So in other words the big teams with better squads will be fresher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin101 Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 Colchester United have released several of their top players due to Coronavirus financial concerns. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52445132 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 35 minutes ago, Robin101 said: Colchester United have released several of their top players due to Coronavirus financial concerns. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52445132 The first of many I reckon. I`m just a bit surprised it`s Col U first, they seem one of the better run ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 55 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said: The first of many I reckon. I`m just a bit surprised it`s Col U first, they seem one of the better run ones. Maybe this is an example of them running the club right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, mozo said: Maybe this is an example of them running the club right! It could well be. There is obviously no obligation to renew a player`s contract and I suppose by telling them early then they have a better chance of finding a new club. I`m surprised Frank Nouble`s only 28 though - he seems to have been around for about twenty years! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 28, 2020 Report Share Posted April 28, 2020 (edited) Few interesting articles from the Daily Mail about the EFL and Championship in general- football, finance, Covid 19- mix of stuff. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8262315/Physios-191-000-kit-men-56-000-Crazy-wages-dont-add-EFL-clubs-brink.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8214353/The-bonkers-finances-threaten-ruin-Championship.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8262095/EFL-clubs-plan-ask-contract-players-play-July-WITHOUT-extra-payment.html Football is a pretty leaky industry, always someone who will go to the press, tip off etc. Indeed, the journo freely admits that in the first article in a few sections. Quote Each year, the EFL send out a questionnaire to their clubs, asking how much they pay playing and non-playing staff. The resulting report — marked ‘strictly private and confidential’ — is meant to provide useful benchmarking information for those who make up the three divisions. It is, to be blunt, sensitive information which is not meant to fall into the hands of a newspaper. What follows is what they do not want you to see — and the starting place is the centre of the madness: the Championship, where the race to the riches of the Premier League — along with the short-term wealth of those aided by parachute payments — dominates the uneven landscape. On a general note, is it good journalism, public interest- or is the publishing of it grossly irresponsible do we think? One of the other articles has quite an interesting line- bit of FFP karma? Quote Now at least half-a-dozen Championship clubs will struggle to pay April's salaries if there are no cuts, as reported by Sportsmail last week. Derby County, Reading and Sheffield Wednesday are among those encountering the greatest difficulties. Shame. Hope they remain solvent obviously but nice bit of karma there? Edited April 28, 2020 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted April 28, 2020 Admin Report Share Posted April 28, 2020 European leagues have until 25 May to tell Uefa whether they want to complete or cancel their seasons. Football is suspended in all European countries apart from Belarus because of the coronavirus pandemic. The Premier League has this week stepped up its plans to resume the season in what has been labelled 'Project Restart'. Arsenal, Tottenham, Brighton and West Ham have opened their training grounds to players for individual work. The Premier League league is hopeful of a potential 8 June restart and finishing at the end of July to fit in with Uefa's European competition plans. This would require full training to begin by 18 May. Top-flight clubs will meet on Friday to discuss options for the restart. Culture Secretary Oliver Dowden said he had been in contact with clubs about restarting the Premier League "as soon as possible". Professional Footballers' Association deputy chief executive Bobby Barnes said: "We have been assured of the intentions of all that there would be no resumption unless guarantees of safety could be given to the players. "The overriding principle for all parties is the health and safety of all participants on and off the field, and of course the wider public." The Scottish Premiership is suspended indefinitely and the season could yet be declared over, a move already taken with the second, third and fourth tiers north of the border. The Dutch top flight was abandoned on Friday with no promotion or relegation and no champions, while on Monday Belgian clubs postponed a vote on confirming the cancellation of their top flight until next week. The deadline set by Uefa is referred to in a set of guidelines on 'eligibility principles' for European competitions that the governing body's president and general secretary have sent out to football bodies. "Given the unforeseen and unprecedented situation [...] national associations and leagues are facing a situation whereby the completion of their domestic competitions may be at risk," they write. Stakeholders are told they "should be in a position to communicate to Uefa by 25 May the planned restart of their domestic competitions, including the date of restart and the relevant competition format". It adds: "In the event that a domestic competition is to be prematurely terminated for legitimate reasons […] Uefa would require the national association to explain by 25 May." Uefa is understood to have set the date because of its next executive committee meeting two days later, when decisions on the restarting of the Champions League and Europa League may be reached. It is viewed as flexible guidance, rather than a rigid deadline. Last week, after a video call meeting of all 55 national associations, Uefa made clear it wants on-field performance to determine which clubs make up next season's European club competitions, despite the current shutdown. Uefa urged clubs to "explore all possible options" to finish their seasons. It accepted that in "special cases" some could be cancelled, but asked authorities to use "a different format" if needed in order for teams to qualify for European competitions. If league seasons cannot be finished, it said national associations would need to select clubs to qualify for Europe. Uefa said it could "refuse or evaluate" selected teams if necessary. TAKEN FROM: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52456304 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted April 28, 2020 Admin Report Share Posted April 28, 2020 French football season has been cancelled now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted April 28, 2020 Report Share Posted April 28, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, phantom said: European leagues have until 25 May to tell Uefa whether they want to complete or cancel their seasons. Football is suspended in all European countries apart from Belarus because of the coronavirus pandemic. The Premier League has this week stepped up its plans to resume the season in what has been labelled 'Project Restart'. Arsenal, Tottenham, Brighton and West Ham have opened their training grounds to players for individual work. The Premier League league is hopeful of a potential 8 June restart and finishing at the end of July to fit in with Uefa's European competition plans. This would require full training to begin by 18 May. Top-flight clubs will meet on Friday to discuss options for the restart. Culture Secretary Oliver Dowden said he had been in contact with clubs about restarting the Premier League "as soon as possible". Professional Footballers' Association deputy chief executive Bobby Barnes said: "We have been assured of the intentions of all that there would be no resumption unless guarantees of safety could be given to the players. "The overriding principle for all parties is the health and safety of all participants on and off the field, and of course the wider public." The Scottish Premiership is suspended indefinitely and the season could yet be declared over, a move already taken with the second, third and fourth tiers north of the border. The Dutch top flight was abandoned on Friday with no promotion or relegation and no champions, while on Monday Belgian clubs postponed a vote on confirming the cancellation of their top flight until next week. The deadline set by Uefa is referred to in a set of guidelines on 'eligibility principles' for European competitions that the governing body's president and general secretary have sent out to football bodies. "Given the unforeseen and unprecedented situation [...] national associations and leagues are facing a situation whereby the completion of their domestic competitions may be at risk," they write. Stakeholders are told they "should be in a position to communicate to Uefa by 25 May the planned restart of their domestic competitions, including the date of restart and the relevant competition format". It adds: "In the event that a domestic competition is to be prematurely terminated for legitimate reasons […] Uefa would require the national association to explain by 25 May." Uefa is understood to have set the date because of its next executive committee meeting two days later, when decisions on the restarting of the Champions League and Europa League may be reached. It is viewed as flexible guidance, rather than a rigid deadline. Last week, after a video call meeting of all 55 national associations, Uefa made clear it wants on-field performance to determine which clubs make up next season's European club competitions, despite the current shutdown. Uefa urged clubs to "explore all possible options" to finish their seasons. It accepted that in "special cases" some could be cancelled, but asked authorities to use "a different format" if needed in order for teams to qualify for European competitions. If league seasons cannot be finished, it said national associations would need to select clubs to qualify for Europe. Uefa said it could "refuse or evaluate" selected teams if necessary. TAKEN FROM: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52456304 French football season cancelled - how long is it going to be discussed before they realise the English season has to be cancelled Edited April 28, 2020 by daored 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted April 28, 2020 Report Share Posted April 28, 2020 10 minutes ago, daored said: French football season cancelled - how long is it going to be discussed before they realise the English season has to be cancelled My opinion is it already has. City are refunding us already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted April 28, 2020 Report Share Posted April 28, 2020 23 minutes ago, daored said: French football season cancelled - how long is it going to be discussed before they realise the English season has to be cancelled Its another government decision as opposed to governing body decision. Last we've heard BoJo is quite keen for sport to resume in a safe (as possible) environment as a boost to public morale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted April 28, 2020 Report Share Posted April 28, 2020 14 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Few interesting articles from the Daily Mail about the EFL and Championship in general- football, finance, Covid 19- mix of stuff. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8262315/Physios-191-000-kit-men-56-000-Crazy-wages-dont-add-EFL-clubs-brink.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8214353/The-bonkers-finances-threaten-ruin-Championship.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8262095/EFL-clubs-plan-ask-contract-players-play-July-WITHOUT-extra-payment.html Football is a pretty leaky industry, always someone who will go to the press, tip off etc. Indeed, the journo freely admits that in the first article in a few sections I don't like how it tries to shock people by the wages of the backroom staff, I'd rather see backroom staff on a good wage ensuring you have the backroom staff you want rather than players getting an extra couple of grand a week. The physio on almost £200,000 a year for example, have a quality medical team who can get your players back on the pitch asap would surely be a great use of money. You get what you pay for with backroom staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 28, 2020 Report Share Posted April 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, hodge said: I don't like how it tries to shock people by the wages of the backroom staff, I'd rather see backroom staff on a good wage ensuring you have the backroom staff you want rather than players getting an extra couple of grand a week. The physio on almost £200,000 a year for example, have a quality medical team who can get your players back on the pitch asap would surely be a great use of money. You get what you pay for with backroom staff. Socking as some of the amounts might seem, the role also has to be taken into consideration. I know I had a bit of a joke with Scotty Murray on Twitter last night re this, but he is more than a kit-man....he’s an ambassador for the club too. No idea what he’s on, but he should be on more than the person who works at a launderette. Digressing slightly, remember Howard from the Halifax adverts. He was initially and employee of Halifax, but he ended up leaving Halifax, because they couldn’t pay him enough within the grade / salary band to justify his added value and media commitments ....so he went freelance. True story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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