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I don't know if its a good base for further league restarts but in Hungary these are the verdicts and the schedule:

1, re-start at 23/05 with Cup semi-finals (23 nd 27/05) along with Ferencváros' previously shifted 2 league games (were shifted because of the Europa League last autumn)

2, league games following the original fixtures starting at 30/05

3, 2 tests / per teams / week during "mini pre-seaon", then tests 24 hours before every game. Same for referees, press can enter to a different zone in the stadium

4, every home team has to send a list of the personnel involved in a game 24 hrs before the game to the FA and a statement that they're COVID negative; max. 500 person (inc. all away team personnel)

5, if someone is tested positive the quarantine is only for that player / staff member for 2 weeks but they have to test everyone again the next day

6, obviously games behind closed doors, but held in everyone's own stadium, no neutral venues

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10 minutes ago, Hunsupport said:

4, every home team has to send a list of the personnel involved in a game 24 hrs before the game to the FA and a statement that they're COVID negative; max. 500 person (inc. all away team personnel)

500 people to still be present,! Just shows how far up its own ass football really is

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PFA are reporting that halves may be less than 45 minutes;

“We don't know the future. What we do know is what propositions have been put, what ideas have been put, the possibility of having more substitutes, games possibly not being the full 45 minutes each way.”

As each day goes by this becomes more and more ridiculous - certain Clubs want home & away games to endure sporting integrity - we’ll do away with relegation - oh ok doesn't matter about the integrity now. 
 

Each day this gets more and more desperate

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22 minutes ago, daored said:

PFA are reporting that halves may be less than 45 minutes;

“We don't know the future. What we do know is what propositions have been put, what ideas have been put, the possibility of having more substitutes, games possibly not being the full 45 minutes each way.”

As each day goes by this becomes more and more ridiculous - certain Clubs want home & away games to endure sporting integrity - we’ll do away with relegation - oh ok doesn't matter about the integrity now. 
 

Each day this gets more and more desperate

All they seem to worry about is staying in the premiership and money 

nothing more nothing less 

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6 minutes ago, sticks 1969 said:

All they seem to worry about is staying in the premiership and money 

nothing more nothing less 

Considering the amount of money these clubs make - it’s insane that after modding approx 4 or 5 home games they’re all on the brink of poverty 

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1 hour ago, daored said:

PFA are reporting that halves may be less than 45 minutes;

“We don't know the future. What we do know is what propositions have been put, what ideas have been put, the possibility of having more substitutes, games possibly not being the full 45 minutes each way.”

As each day goes by this becomes more and more ridiculous - certain Clubs want home & away games to endure sporting integrity - we’ll do away with relegation - oh ok doesn't matter about the integrity now. 
 

Each day this gets more and more desperate

Desperate - you've hit the nail on the head there. 

 

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41 minutes ago, walnutroof said:

The whole thing is becoming a farce, end the season give Liverpool the title as anything else would be ridiculous, everyone else remains the same and start again next season whenever that is 

So whats the difference between that and waiting until 'whenever that is' to finish this season? It could be February if things don't get better and then you may as well just finish this season off, I don't get why there is a rush to decide about ending this season. From a financial perspective there's still no money coming in from match days etc for clubs if the season is ended/delayed through that period. 

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This seems somewhat worrying in terms of an independent firm deciding decisions made by clubs, personally I would only apply it to wage cuts rather than deferrals. Deferrals will be paid to the players so clubs just want to ease cash flow when nothing is coming in. I could understand if they're looking at the clubs saying they'll take 12 months etc to pay back the money owed but in general its not hard to understand why clubs have done this when they don't know how long they'll be without money coming in.

'Parry said he supported the Professional Footballers' Association's appointment of financial services firm Deloitte to look at club accounts and assesses if there was a genuine need for wages to be deferred.;

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1 hour ago, walnutroof said:

The whole thing is becoming a farce, end the season give Liverpool the title as anything else would be ridiculous, everyone else remains the same and start again next season whenever that is 

I disagree 15 minutes each way at St George's Park.  Larger goals to ensure a result and plenty of goals for TV. Rush goalies obviously

One touch football to keep it flowing and avoid any tackles or physical contact. Ball must not go above head height to make sure no heading. Throw- ins to be kick-ins to avoid touching the ball with bare hands.

Just a towel down with players own towel at half time followed by half an orange from the player's local farm shop to preserve the integrity of the competition. Shirts to remain on at all times. 

In the unlikely event of a draw penalty shoot outs, all players including the goalies in hazmat suits.

Halftime analysis by Ant and Dec , 

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45 minutes ago, hodge said:

So whats the difference between that and waiting until 'whenever that is' to finish this season? It could be February if things don't get better and then you may as well just finish this season off, I don't get why there is a rush to decide about ending this season. From a financial perspective there's still no money coming in from match days etc for clubs if the season is ended/delayed through that period. 

Contracts would be the main thing, currently they’re asking people who may be out of contact to play on, except they wouldn’t be covered by insurance and if they got injured suddenly they’ve got a big problem 

Also starting from afresh would mean no rules change midseason, they make a big song and dance about sporting integrity but whichever way they it’s done someone will get shafted, promoting Leeds and West Brom like some suggest is no fairer than having no relegation this season 

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10 minutes ago, Snufflelufagus said:

Are there similar discussions going on with Rugby, Cricket etc? If not just shows how stupid/ money driven football has become.

Cricket is waiting for an update on relaxation of lockdown and what social distancing will look like. The 16.4 (otherwise known as 'The Hundred') being the ECB's new flagship tournament has been postponed until 2021, it is widely accepted as likely that the county championship will either be abandoned for the season or will be revamped so far fewer games are played. The aim is for the 2020 domestic cup to take priority as games are quick and will make more from tv deals, if there is enough time in the season then the 50 over competition can also take place. Cricket has also received offers to be able to extend its season into Oct/Nov from places like UAE, Aus, NZ.

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22 minutes ago, Snufflelufagus said:

Are there similar discussions going on with Rugby, Cricket etc? If not just shows how stupid/ money driven football has become.

To be fair mate , it isn’t football it’s the premier league. Talk of the EFL restarting have gone very quiet 

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2 hours ago, hodge said:

This seems somewhat worrying in terms of an independent firm deciding decisions made by clubs, personally I would only apply it to wage cuts rather than deferrals. Deferrals will be paid to the players so clubs just want to ease cash flow when nothing is coming in. I could understand if they're looking at the clubs saying they'll take 12 months etc to pay back the money owed but in general its not hard to understand why clubs have done this when they don't know how long they'll be without money coming in.

'Parry said he supported the Professional Footballers' Association's appointment of financial services firm Deloitte to look at club accounts and assesses if there was a genuine need for wages to be deferred.;

Seems fair enough really.

If only it had been in place in Spring 2019 with certain clubs for a very different financial reason. I'd much rather the EFL had Deloitte in there last season.

Deferrals though..they can live with that- unsure what to think of it in this instance overall!

He also elsewhere warns of 'very messy legal action' if PL blocks promotion.

Quite right too!!

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38 minutes ago, hodge said:

Cricket is waiting for an update on relaxation of lockdown and what social distancing will look like. The 16.4 (otherwise known as 'The Hundred') being the ECB's new flagship tournament has been postponed until 2021, it is widely accepted as likely that the county championship will either be abandoned for the season or will be revamped so far fewer games are played. The aim is for the 2020 domestic cup to take priority as games are quick and will make more from tv deals, if there is enough time in the season then the 50 over competition can also take place. Cricket has also received offers to be able to extend its season into Oct/Nov from places like UAE, Aus, NZ.

And using a wax to polish the ball!

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12 minutes ago, Bobby Bollax said:

And using a wax to polish the ball!

White ball doesn't swing much/too long anyway so not really a problem for counties, its a problem for the England team if internationals resume

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1 hour ago, walnutroof said:

Contracts would be the main thing, currently they’re asking people who may be out of contact to play on, except they wouldn’t be covered by insurance and if they got injured suddenly they’ve got a big problem 

Also starting from afresh would mean no rules change midseason, they make a big song and dance about sporting integrity but whichever way they it’s done someone will get shafted, promoting Leeds and West Brom like some suggest is no fairer than having no relegation this season 

For me I'd say players can be allowed to sign a contract that allows them to play until the end of this season ie Ashley Williams for us, both club and player need to agree. If clubs don't want to extend then players can sign for new clubs July 1st however the league would have a decision as to whether they're eligible to play or not either way they have a chance to sign for a new club and start earning again. As for loans, the loaning club should have the option to extend the loan deal should they want to on current terms until end of season, if the loaning club does not want to extend then the player can return to the parent club and play, however the parent club cannot recall a player if the loaning club wants to keep the player and the player wants to stay, if the player doesn't want to stay for whatever reason in this situation (they want to be with their family, have young children etc) and the club wishes to keep the player then the player would return to the parent club but be ineligible to play. As minimal changes to current rules.

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47 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Seems fair enough really.

If only it had been in place in Spring 2019 with certain clubs for a very different financial reason. I'd much rather the EFL had Deloitte in there last season.

Deferrals though..they can live with that- unsure what to think of it in this instance overall!

He also elsewhere warns of 'very messy legal action' if PL blocks promotion.

Quite right too!!

They're only there to establish whether the club needed to defer player wages though rather than doing it by choice, by the sounds of it its not discussing furloughs etc just deferrals. If a club 'could' have seen out the period (which we don't know when it will end so hard for clubs to predict) but chose to defer wages (not cut) to protect the club in the short term because of cash flow then this still seems to indicate they'll be accused of wrong doing rather than paying upfront in full until they hit trouble which seems like worse miss management. I'd say clubs are doing the right thing by deferring, easier to pay money back quickly when you know the problem is over then run into a brick wall first.

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