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10 minutes ago, Kingswood Robin said:

If the chart the BBC has presented on confirmed cases is correct, if no action is taken, we could be up at April levels in 5/6 weeks time. Crowds at matches from October doesn't really sit with that.

 

I don't see any chance in it being this year now.

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2 minutes ago, Chappers said:

Doncaster races behind closed doors for rest of week, and plans for trialing fans at sport ‘under review’. Once Dominic has decided, that useless pipsqueak of a sports minister will tell us.
Not looking good at all

But please cram onto public transport to go to your offices!

The racing was affected by a spike in numbers around the Doncaster area, nothing Nationally related.

Test events HAVEN'T been cancelled, they just have to reapply for permission

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12 minutes ago, phantom said:

The racing was affected by a spike in numbers around the Doncaster area, nothing Nationally related.

Test events HAVEN'T been cancelled, they just have to reapply for permission

I didn’t say they had, just ‘under review’. We shall see, but can’t say I’m optimistic as there are quite a few local spikes.

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I don’t think today’s “news” affects the sports attendance as much as it might seem.

The limit on groups of people outdoors was already 6 (unless all from no more than 2 households).

This change might actually help sport attendance because firstly, it will be in a “covid secure” environment e.g risk assessments, social distancing in place, etc etc same way pubs and gyms can operate still.

At present if 15 lads turned up together to watch football (thinking non league for example), the law has no power to split them up. Now there’s clear law in place that only groups of 6 regardless of the makeup of that group can attend together and if they persist on breaking the law, they can be split up.

All that said, I can see the outrage from people being told their family of 5 can only meet one grandparent while 3000 people attend a football match in the same way people are highlighting work/pubs/public transport etc. It doesn’t send out the right message to get people on side if on one hand you’re saying people are socialising too much - then the other saying it’s safe for thousands of people to attend a football match.

Someone pointed out the early posts and looking back, hold my hands up fully I never expected us to be in this situation at all. Can’t remember if/what I may have posted but I thought this would pass very quickly, remember texting a mate saying no chance the Euros would be cancelled get those flights booked!

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The latest BBC article on it- and will pull out a few key bits.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/5409436

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Plans for spectators to attend sporting events in England from 1 October are to be reviewed, Prime Minister Boris Johnson has confirmed.

Johnson, speaking at a Downing Street news conference, also said pilot events in September would be restricted to 1,000 fans with social distancing measures in place.

“We must revise plans to pilot larger audiences in venues later this month and review our intention to return audiences to stadiums from 1 October," said Johnson.

"But that doesn't mean we are going to scrap the programme entirely.

“We are just going to have to review it and abridge it."

 

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23 hours ago, The Horse With No Name said:

Knowing what we know now, its interesting reading the first couple of pages of this thread, from February.

Agreed, especially when there were posts from the one who claimed extensive knowledge of what was going on in China and everything was apparently getting back to normal over there way back at the start of the year so there was basically nothing to worry about - what an idiot ...

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22 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

Agreed, especially when there were posts from the one who claimed extensive knowledge of what was going on in China and everything was apparently getting back to normal over there way back at the start of the year so there was basically nothing to worry about - what an idiot ...

Can't remember his name off the top of my head....Dave?

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2 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

Agreed, especially when there were posts from the one who claimed extensive knowledge of what was going on in China and everything was apparently getting back to normal over there way back at the start of the year so there was basically nothing to worry about - what an idiot ...

Quite possible that things are getting back to normal in China though- those points had some validity in isolation, fans have returned to Wuhan football, read a few weeks ago of some kind of Wuhan Beer Festival or similar!

Some of them, maskless at that! (Dunno what the guidance is there tbh).

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3 minutes ago, phantom said:

As per the whole process all along, the testing of football staff has NO impact on the NHS and is completely separate 

Is it though? Again it’s corporate greed and money talks, just as the wealthy can get tests done whenever they want the lab space taken up by sports people should be used for the benefit of normal people. 

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Agreed interesting reading the first few pages, a lot of people calling things exactly in line with what happened.  
 

Fair play to And It’s Smith, they keep going with the ‘it’s not serious’ line for about 3 weeks and dont let up, until they then start blaming the Tories for not taking it seriously!  

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8 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

Agreed, especially when there were posts from the one who claimed extensive knowledge of what was going on in China and everything was apparently getting back to normal over there way back at the start of the year so there was basically nothing to worry about - what an idiot ...

Regarding football I said the football season wouldn’t be cancelled which you called ridiculous. It wasn’t cancelled so who’s the idiot?  

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44 minutes ago, Tinmans Love Child said:

Agreed interesting reading the first few pages, a lot of people calling things exactly in line with what happened.  
 

Fair play to And It’s Smith, they keep going with the ‘it’s not serious’ line for about 3 weeks and dont let up, until they then start blaming the Tories for not taking it seriously!  

China showed how to deal with it.  Assumed the Tories would do the same. Not my fault they didn’t.   China have aggressive local lockdowns and contain the virus very well.  As someone who goes to China and know people there I was just communicating what was to be expected.  You can have a go at me for that if it makes you feel better 

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1 hour ago, And Its Smith said:

China showed how to deal with it.  Assumed the Tories would do the same. Not my fault they didn’t.   China have aggressive local lockdowns and contain the virus very well.  As someone who goes to China and know people there I was just communicating what was to be expected.  You can have a go at me for that if it makes you feel better 

The lady doth protest too much

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1 hour ago, And Its Smith said:

China showed how to deal with it.  Assumed the Tories would do the same. Not my fault they didn’t.   China have aggressive local lockdowns and contain the virus very well.  As someone who goes to China and know people there I was just communicating what was to be expected.  You can have a go at me for that if it makes you feel better 

I think you're better off just taking the L on this one. In your defence, back in Feb none of us really knew what was going to happen and none of us would be privy to that info.

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10 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

Agreed, especially when there were posts from the one who claimed extensive knowledge of what was going on in China and everything was apparently getting back to normal over there way back at the start of the year so there was basically nothing to worry about - what an idiot ...

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1 hour ago, And Its Smith said:

China showed how to deal with it.  Assumed the Tories would do the same. Not my fault they didn’t.   China have aggressive local lockdowns and contain the virus very well.  As someone who goes to China and know people there I was just communicating what was to be expected.  You can have a go at me for that if it makes you feel better 

I love the diversity of the travel / mates.....I could imagine you with a 3 wheeler van with Red Dave Independent Trading on the side and “London, Paris, Wuhan, Oldham” underneath ???

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7 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

I love the diversity of the travel / mates.....I could imagine you with a 3 wheeler van with Red Dave Independent Trading on the side and “London, Paris, Wuhan, Oldham” underneath ???

Expect better than that from you Dave.  I live in Bristol, work in Oldham and do business with Chinese factories. Not exactly a unique set up is it!  Most people in manufacturing work with Chinese factories!  

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3 hours ago, And Its Smith said:

Regarding football I said the football season wouldn’t be cancelled which you called ridiculous. It wasn’t cancelled so who’s the idiot?  

I didn’t say your claim was ridiculous - you said it was ridiculous to consider cancelling the season way back at the start of this pandemic, then leagues one and two had their seasons cancelled. Anyway, apologies, there was no need to go over this old ground again - it’s been an horrendously tough year for so many, I guess I’m just totally fed up with it all now. Can’t even get any enthusiasm back for football at the moment .... roll on Christmas!!

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2 hours ago, And Its Smith said:

Expect better than that from you Dave.  I live in Bristol, work in Oldham and do business with Chinese factories. Not exactly a unique set up is it!  Most people in manufacturing work with Chinese factories!  

I'd be surprised if anyone else here has the Oldham commute.

Oldland Common, maybe. But Oldham, less so.

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Latest.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-8717741/Tottenhams-request-8-000-fans-stadium-Everton-clash-REJECTED-Government.html

Tottenham are clearly one of the more bullish clubs- though this was always fanciful even before the spike in infections. No surprise that the above ⬆️ has panned out that way.

Plans to bring fans back in October are still on track but Johnson announced review IIRC?

Also, from a related article.

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Until Wednesday morning, Premier League clubs including Manchester United and Tottenham had been working on proposals to host test events at their first home matches of the season. That is unlikely to happen now.

United were hoping to allow 12,000 fans into Old Trafford for their fixture against Crystal Palace a week on Saturday.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-8714689/Johnson-announces-review-plans-reopen-stadiums-putting-October-1-return-fans-rocks.html

I guess we'll know in a week or so just how feasible the planned return date is.

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