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21 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

I didn’t say your claim was ridiculous - you said it was ridiculous to consider cancelling the season way back at the start of this pandemic, then leagues one and two had their seasons cancelled. Anyway, apologies, there was no need to go over this old ground again - it’s been an horrendously tough year for so many, I guess I’m just totally fed up with it all now. Can’t even get any enthusiasm back for football at the moment .... roll on Christmas!!

Can't wait to allocate family their own time slots for visiting hours. 2 per hour max, thank you.

Only joking... my whole family is small enough to adhere to the law ??

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Belgian football fans are set to return to stadiums for top league matches, though numbers will be strictly limited with social distancing.

It will be the fifth game of the new season for these clubs. The action starts tonight in Eupen, a town near the German border, with the local stadium welcoming up to 1,600 fans. Matches have been behind closed doors since the March lockdown.

“Bring the passion back,” says a Flemish football website headline.

On Sunday, more than 6,000 will be allowed into Anderlecht’s stadium - way below its maximum capacity of 22,000.

Fans are urged to keep one metre apart, separated by empty seats, and they must wear masks all the time.

Clubs hope gradually to increase the crowd numbers.

Anderlecht CEO Karel Van Eetvelt says a closed-door match loses the club around €650,000 (£600,000). “This time, with about a third of our fans, we hope to limit the loss to €350,000 to €400,000.”

Next week some German Bundesliga clubs will allow fans back into stadiums, with strict rules as in Belgium.

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3 hours ago, phantom said:

Belgian football fans are set to return to stadiums for top league matches, though numbers will be strictly limited with social distancing.

It will be the fifth game of the new season for these clubs. The action starts tonight in Eupen, a town near the German border, with the local stadium welcoming up to 1,600 fans. Matches have been behind closed doors since the March lockdown.

“Bring the passion back,” says a Flemish football website headline.

On Sunday, more than 6,000 will be allowed into Anderlecht’s stadium - way below its maximum capacity of 22,000.

Fans are urged to keep one metre apart, separated by empty seats, and they must wear masks all the time.

Clubs hope gradually to increase the crowd numbers.

Anderlecht CEO Karel Van Eetvelt says a closed-door match loses the club around €650,000 (£600,000). “This time, with about a third of our fans, we hope to limit the loss to €350,000 to €400,000.”

Next week some German Bundesliga clubs will allow fans back into stadiums, with strict rules as in Belgium.

Ever changing I guess, but about a month ago it was stated that the planned return- no standing areas, no alcohol, limited capacity and unsure what else- had been put off because of Covid. If that's changed, that gives grounds for a bit of cautious optimism.

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On 10/09/2020 at 12:31, BS4 on Tour... said:

I didn’t say your claim was ridiculous - you said it was ridiculous to consider cancelling the season way back at the start of this pandemic, then leagues one and two had their seasons cancelled. Anyway, apologies, there was no need to go over this old ground again - it’s been an horrendously tough year for so many, I guess I’m just totally fed up with it all now. Can’t even get any enthusiasm back for football at the moment .... roll on Christmas!!

Christmas ? That's knackered already !!

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This feels like a blow to the planned return date! Elsewhere, it says said events would be deferred- perhaps more so than cancelled.

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The Premier League statement reads: 'At 1,000 supporters, not only would there be little to learn from a test event, but each match would be heavily loss-making.

'For each month of the season without fans, more than £100 million is lost to football across the leagues, with consequent damage to the local and national economy. It also harms the employment prospects of more than 100,000 people whose jobs depend on matchday activities.

'Our clubs have already prepared test events and can offer larger scale trials to prove it is possible to produce bio-secure, safe environments, as was proved through the successful delivery of Project Restart.'

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News in this article isn't desirable but is unclear whether it's PL specific.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8726461/No-fans-New-Year-delays-looming-clubs-face-financial-chaos.html

I did read elsewhere too that Cambridge v Carlisle planned test event, think proposed capacity about 2,500, didn't go ahead in light of the whole test event limit reduction to 1,000.

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8 minutes ago, S25loyal said:

Are people really that desperate to watch football they want to view it sat like that?

Least bad options and all that?

I guess it's important for clubs but then there is a tipping point, at which when clubs host games it is more expensive to host it with limited fans than behind closed doors- tipping point being when 'We can have x there but it'll cost so may as well not even bother'!

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Senior sport officials will meet the UK government this week to discuss the return of fans to venues.

Last week, the government restricted pilot events to 1,000 spectators after a rise in coronavirus cases, and said plans for grounds to be up to a third full from 1 October would be reviewed.

Digital, Culture, Media and Sport (DCMS) Secretary of State Oliver Dowden will now meet with stakeholders.

The Premier League has already written to the government over pilot plans.

On Friday, the BBC revealed English football's top league was to inform the government that it would postpone plans for further pilots until the restriction was lifted, and reiterated its confidence that fans could be returned to stadiums safely.

The Premier League says around £100m per month will be lost by clubs across the leagues while matches continue behind closed doors and it is one of a number of sports bodies to have voiced concerns at the financial impact of an extended period with empty venues.

Nigel Huddleston, Minister for Sport, Tourism and Heritage has written to former sports minister Tracey Crouch MP to state that despite changes to Covid-19 restrictions, the UK government is hopeful fans can attend events under socially distanced conditions from 1 October.

'We wouldn't last the season'

On Monday, the second pilot fixture in rugby union's Premiership took place as 1,000 spectators attended Gloucester's match with Harlequins.

Meanwhile, reports in the Times on Tuesday claimed attendances could be restricted to between 1,000 and 2,500 from 1 October, depending on the coronavirus infection rate.

Gloucester chief executive Lance Bradley told BBC Radio 4 that level of restriction would be "a disaster" if put in place for the remainder of the season.

"We simply have to get fans back in reasonable numbers as soon as possible to ensure the game survives," said Bradley. "We can't keep going losing money with 1,000 or 2,000 fans.

"In the end, that would be a disaster. There are clubs in a worse position than us but we would find it very difficult.

"We wouldn't be able to make it through the season if we were only allowed crowds of 2,500."

TAKEN FROM: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/54158891

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  • The title was changed to Fans allowed at EFL games this weekend.
23 minutes ago, Portland Bill said:

BREAKING:

The EFL will stage pilots with up to 1,000 fans at matches this weekend, following approval from the government.

EFL clubs were asked to put in requests by Today in order for their plans to be signed off in time.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12072568/efl-clubs-allowed-up-to-1-000-fans-for-pilot-event-matches-this-weekend

EFL clubs allowed up to 1,000 fans for pilot event matches this weekend

Last Updated: 15/09/20 2:30pm

 

The request from EFL clubs for pilot events was granted by the UK government on TuesdayThe request from EFL clubs for pilot events was granted by the UK government on Tuesday

EFL clubs have been given the go-ahead to run pilot events this weekend with up to 1,000 spectators allowed to attend matches.

An EFL spokesman said: "The EFL remains in discussions with the government about the pilot programme which may include a limited number of further pilot matches during September with capacity limited to 1,000.

"The league is clear in its view that social distancing can be applied safely in football stadia and that having crowds at matches is an absolutely essential part of helping to protect club finances, which remain under extreme pressure. Therefore, the successful delivery of further pilots w be an important step towards getting larger number of fans into grounds safely.

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8 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said:

How would social distancing be enforces on a terrace for the lower divisions or would they just not use them?

Local team near me have marked out with red tape areas that fans can't stand in all around the edge of the pitch. They're all cleaned at the end of the match, and the tape replaced if it's not salvageable. 

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3 hours ago, Portland Bill said:

BREAKING:

The EFL will stage pilots with up to 1,000 fans at matches this weekend, following approval from the government.

EFL clubs were asked to put in requests by Today in order for their plans to be signed off in time.

Brilliant news. Fingers crossed they are all successful. Some light at the end off the tunnel ! 

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20 minutes ago, The Humble Realist said:

Articles suggest 'the next 48 hours will be crucial'....is this comment related to trends in the number of cases nationally or some sort of decision point happening this week ?

I would guess it’s more about the countries trajectory. Luckily, nobody can get a test so numbers of positive cases should remain low...

On a more serious note, I think Germany got 10,000 at a game yesterday (the one where a player threatened the crowd) and Ligue 1 has been running at 5,000 with a greater number of cases than us (similar trajectory). I’d guess that’s what they’re aiming for.

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