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The Coronavirus and its impact on sport

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3 hours ago, lenred said:

Agreed. In fact the longer the break the less I miss it and all the peripheral shite that goes with it. The Premier League especially are showing their true colours in their desperation that is purely money motivated.  

 

I agreed with all the peripheral stuff, money and the PL. But after watching videos of us recently I do miss the cheer and euphoria after scoring and a good win. Daft as that may sound.

I've also been listening to these BBC podcasts...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/series/p06qbzmj 

... and they have been bringing back great memories of all sports.

I know way more important things are going on at the moment but the entertainment and pleasure sport brings shouldn't be overlooked. Sadly it's a luxury we can ill afford at the moment (excuse the pun).

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This whole debate by the authorities is shameful in the current climate and shows a real disregard for players (their families), coaches, support staff and medical staff (not to mention any non football people that would be impacted under some of the rumoured plans, e.g. hotel staff needed if players are quarantined). 

It's also hugely disrespectful to the NHS and would be a needless drain on their limited resources given there will be an expectation on them to treat any infected players should that happen as a result of restarting this season. All the authorities care about is the money and greed.  You don't need to be a rocket scientist to know the risks are too significant to be thinking that football is a priority right now, let alone debating finishing the season by actually playing games.

Scenario planning about when and how to restart for next season is the right and proper thing to do but exploring plans to actually finish this behind closed doors is offensive. 

This sport moves further and further away from the game I enjoyed so much. Not sure I could come back from this if football goes ahead right now.

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3 minutes ago, daored said:

What would really lift morale is finding a vaccination so we can get to some form of normal life again. Allowing grandparents to hug their grandchildren, families to reunite, bars and restaurants to reopen so we can mix as a society once again. For us not to have to queue outside supermarkets , to be allowed outside other than essential shopping / exercise 

What will not improve my morale is seeing 20 football clubs playing games in empty stadiums, taking up recourse of the emergency services, taking up tests that could be used for front line staff / the general public to allow us to speed up an exit from lockdown and a return to some form of normality. 
 

 

100% agree. I'm amazed and disapointed that authorities can't see this above any other reason they think justifies restarting.

The Government are using the 'Moral lifting' statement to try to divert media attention (and criticism) away from their failings in handling the virus.

Football authorities should be taking a higher stance and just say no. This will (hopefully) backfire massively on the football authorities if they do bow down and go through with resuming. Absolutely disgraceful behaviour from both parties.

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12 minutes ago, daored said:

What would really lift morale is finding a vaccination so we can get to some form of normal life again. Allowing grandparents to hug their grandchildren, families to reunite, bars and restaurants to reopen so we can mix as a society once again. For us not to have to queue outside supermarkets , to be allowed outside other than essential shopping / exercise 

What will not improve my morale is seeing 20 football clubs playing games in empty stadiums, taking up recourse of the emergency services, taking up tests that could be used for front line staff / the general public to allow us to speed up an exit from lockdown and a return to some form of normality. 
 

 

well said sir....

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4 hours ago, Laner said:

I agreed with all the peripheral stuff, money and the PL. But after watching videos of us recently I do miss the cheer and euphoria after scoring and a good win. Daft as that may sound.

I've also been listening to these BBC podcasts...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/series/p06qbzmj 

... and they have been bringing back great memories of all sports.

I know way more important things are going on at the moment but the entertainment and pleasure sport brings shouldn't be overlooked. Sadly it's a luxury we can ill afford at the moment (excuse the pun).

Doesn’t sound daft at all mate but like you say - way way more important things going on at the moment than trying to salvage tv money to the detriment of our critical services and putting more lives at risk, which is essentially what football would be doing if it were to rush back before it is safe to do so. We have the highest death rate in Europe now - risking even more lives for a few games of pretty meaningless football just isn’t worth it. 

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8 hours ago, Roger Red Hat said:

Which ever way they do this , they cause problems. I assume several local hotels will be used for the clubs to stay at - so effectively everyone who works at the hotel , coach driver etc will be required to be tested every two days?

I would imagine that the hotels being used for the respective teams would also be known. You can see Liverpool fans gathering outside the hotel to celebrate when they win the league. 

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2 hours ago, daored said:

Which ever way they do this , they cause problems. I assume several local hotels will be used for the clubs to stay at - so effectively everyone who works at the hotel , coach driver etc will be required to be tested every two days?

I would imagine that the hotels being used for the respective teams would also be known. You can see Liverpool fans gathering outside the hotel to celebrate when they win the league. 

For some reason that made me wonder if there was a premier inn in Burton, they could allocate hotels depending on league position so Norwich world get the Travelodge etc etc 

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They are determined to get it back on aren't they, just hope NHS workers and care workers are getting the same level of testing as this will need on a daily basis, just stinks of money to me . 

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8 minutes ago, weepywall said:

They are determined to get it back on aren't they, just hope NHS workers and care workers are getting the same level of testing as this will need on a daily basis, just stinks of money to me

welcome to the last 10 years of government.

Underlying wealth issue? You'll get a test.

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The reality is that, if the season cannot be completed, it will be shit, depressing for all involved and financially challenging for many people.

But cancelling Glastonbury was shit, depressing for all involved and financially challenging for many people. Yet Glastonbury nonetheless took the decision. Ditto holidays being cancelled, events being cancelled, businesses, pubs and restaurants being closed. This is a depressing sacrifice but one that has rightly been deemed necessary. I've been fortunate in that I've kept working but everything I was looking forward to this year has been cancelled. Others have had that AND financial damage. The reality is, even when restrictions are lifted, many fans - including some of the longest-serving season ticket holders - will probably be advised to avoid large events or even seeing their loved ones.

All of this is horrible and depressing but it is a sacrifice we have collectively made to contain this virus. Deciding football is immune to that sacrifice and taking unnecessary risks and resources to make football happen will shatter that sense of collective sacrifice, cause resentment to everyone else who is having to cancel things, cause resentment amongst fans that cannot watch matches and create bad feeling as well as genuine risk.

It is a shame we have reached a point where it is in the best interests of everyone that the season cannot be completed but it is in the best interests of everyone that the season not be completed.  Struggling against practicality to try to put it on will achieve nothing and the focus should now be on resolving the season's outcomes in the best and fairest way possible without more matches taking place. And working out plans to run a truncated season (perhaps on a north/south split with play-offs at the end) from January to May 2021. 

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5 minutes ago, wayne allisons tongues said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52558225

Decision time Monday  it seems

Can’t see the government lifting lockdown measures enough to allow football to return. Certainly appears that social distancing will be in place - and hard to see how football being played with so many people involved will meet the rules and restrictions. 
This has been a farce.

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41 minutes ago, daored said:

Can’t see the government lifting lockdown measures enough to allow football to return. Certainly appears that social distancing will be in place - and hard to see how football being played with so many people involved will meet the rules and restrictions. 
This has been a farce.

I think they were looking into training wearing masks if got green light. Been reported in China children are dying in school whilst exercising wearing masks so can’t see that being allowed here.

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10 minutes ago, wayne allisons tongues said:

I think they were looking into training wearing masks if got green light. Been reported in China children are dying in school whilst exercising wearing masks so can’t see that being allowed here.

Have you got a link to this  ?

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One brief football note.

Bundesliga has been given green light to return (behind closed doors).

Mixed reports as to whether it's May 15th or May 22nd but it seems to be between these two.

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The Premier League season will be completed in June at the FA’s St George’s National Football Centre (NFC), with players from every club staying at local hotels under lock-down, according to sources who spoke to the SKWAWKBOX.

The FA is arranging hotels for each club, but only players and staff will be there – players will be apart from their families for the duration of what will become effectively a World Cup-style finish to the season.

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14 minutes ago, havanatopia said:

The Premier League season will be completed in June at the FA’s St George’s National Football Centre (NFC), with players from every club staying at local hotels under lock-down, according to sources who spoke to the SKWAWKBOX.

The FA is arranging hotels for each club, but only players and staff will be there – players will be apart from their families for the duration of what will become effectively a World Cup-style finish to the season.

Source ?

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1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

One brief football note.

Bundesliga has been given green light to return (behind closed doors).

Mixed reports as to whether it's May 15th or May 22nd but it seems to be between these two.

Think we should set a start date for around a month later, should be enough time to see how Germany copes and whether they have any problems before we’d be due to restart, if it goes wrong we can cancel the plans.

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1 hour ago, havanatopia said:

The Premier League season will be completed in June at the FA’s St George’s National Football Centre (NFC), with players from every club staying at local hotels under lock-down, according to sources who spoke to the SKWAWKBOX.

The FA is arranging hotels for each club, but only players and staff will be there – players will be apart from their families for the duration of what will become effectively a World Cup-style finish to the season.

 

59 minutes ago, Vincent Vega said:

Source ?

I should be amazed if there was just one iota of truth in this.

Apart from the fact that SKWAWBOX is, let's say, not the most reliable of sources, it was 'announced' on their site yesterday evening and, to the best of my knowledge, there has been not one mention of it on more serious and reliable sites such as SKY or even the BBC.

As Dear Old Donald would say, Fake News.

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4 hours ago, daored said:

Can’t see the government lifting lockdown measures enough to allow football to return. Certainly appears that social distancing will be in place - and hard to see how football being played with so many people involved will meet the rules and restrictions. 
This has been a farce.

Sounds like Golf, Fishing and Tennis will be lifted.

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1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

One brief football note.

Bundesliga has been given green light to return (behind closed doors).

Mixed reports as to whether it's May 15th or May 22nd but it seems to be between these two.

Anyone know what order the games will Be played in? I assume it picks up with the first postponed game

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4 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

One brief football note.

Bundesliga has been given green light to return (behind closed doors).

Mixed reports as to whether it's May 15th or May 22nd but it seems to be between these two.

That's very good news. They relaxed restrictions 10 days or so ago successfully and today opened all shops. With Boris going ahead with relaxing restrictions from Monday it seems we are following the German route. Fully expect our Football to be given go ahead as well and more widespread restrictions lifted on Monday May 18th. We are getting there.

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Saw an article, think it was the NY times saying it was the bottom 6 clubs dithering and deliberately holding up meetings, making things go in circles as to why they hadn't made more progress with decisions. Basically doing everything they can to ensure no relegation this season. Problem is all you need is the bottom 6 and one other to vote against restart proposals, just above that you have Southampton who had lost 4 of the last 5 and Newcastle who would hardly want the risk of relegation with the potential for Saudi owners, mega rich owners in an upcoming transfer market where prices will hit big lows.

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13 minutes ago, OldlandReddies said:

That's very good news. They relaxed restrictions 10 days or so ago successfully and today opened all shops. With Boris going ahead with relaxing restrictions from Monday it seems we are following the German route. Fully expect our Football to be given go ahead as well and more widespread restrictions lifted on Monday May 18th. We are getting there.

Ah but it’s the Germans. They might be able to make it work but our bunch of profiteering scumbags will only have their eyes on the Yankee dollar. If fans, players and officials get sick, they won’t be bothered as long as the Sky moolah rolls into their and the marquee players’ pockets. 
Hope it all implodes so we can start football again with a level playing field, salary caps throughout and a ban on foreign corrupt investment. 

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28 minutes ago, OldlandReddies said:

That's very good news. They relaxed restrictions 10 days or so ago successfully and today opened all shops. With Boris going ahead with relaxing restrictions from Monday it seems we are following the German route. Fully expect our Football to be given go ahead as well and more widespread restrictions lifted on Monday May 18th. We are getting there.

We’re miles behind Germany in this pandemic.

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Prepare for the world's smallest violin...

Mr. Purslow and Aston Villa.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11677/11983955/premier-league-relegation-could-cost-200m-aston-villa-against-neutral-venues-christian-purslow

What a shame!! 🤣

As it goes I wonder about his workings here, how many years that projected figure or loss is spread over- but anyway! He's been in the industry a long while, I'll take him at his word!

Wonder if he's ever so slightly concerned about the views of the EFL- and Parry is far superior to Harvey- and other clubs- on their 3 years of spending and how they appeared to achieve compliance in the period running to May 2019...?

Or better yet, the wrath of his owners if his grand plan which they doubtless took in good faith, was in fact deemed in breach of FFP rules- they will be less than happy at him leading them up the wrong path...

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5 hours ago, Super said:

Sounds like Golf, Fishing and Tennis will be lifted.

 

5 hours ago, daored said:

I understand the above 

I've never understood Fishing tbh!

 

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6 hours ago, Super said:

Sounds like Golf, Fishing and Tennis will be lifted.

Yep. Mate of mine says his local golf course told ok to open May 18th, my garage text me to say they are reopening same day and IKEA stores to open that day as well. Bye, bye Lockdown, hello sunshine!

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54 minutes ago, OldlandReddies said:

Yep. Mate of mine says his local golf course told ok to open May 18th, my garage text me to say they are reopening same day and IKEA stores to open that day as well. Bye, bye Lockdown, hello sunshine!

You know it’ll be rain for a week, we’ll get a spike and restrictions will come back 

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19 minutes ago, hodge said:

You know it’ll be rain for a week, we’ll get a spike and restrictions will come back 

Funnily enough I think this weekend will be chaotic with the nice weather and impending relaxation of lockdown. 

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The relegation spot in League 2 just became interesting, Macclesfield deducted 7 points (4 for charges and 3 previously suspended) for not playing the game v Plymouth and not paying players on time in Feb, they also have 2 points suspended providing they don't break any rules this season. That reduces them to 25 points in 23rd place. Stevenage are on 22 points but have a game in hand. However Bolton had a suspended 5 point deduction for not playing at the start of the season (compared to the 4 points for Macclesfield for 2 offenses including same charge). If this had been a 5 point deduction with the 3 suspended points then Macclesfield would have only been 2 points ahead of Southend who could have then argued their game in hand could have seen them out the drop zone. 

The inconsistency in points deductions is a problem.

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4 minutes ago, OldlandReddies said:

The news gets better.......plans to let football fans back into grounds come October. Yeeehaaa

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On 04/05/2020 at 00:23, Mr Popodopolous said:

That idea is a load of bollocks, the removal of relegation!

Incidentally, read stories today that there are six sides who have or are known to have problems with neutral venues- this is the bottom six.

All I can add on that, the PL majority voting regulations stipulate 14/20 needed to carry a motion, implement a rule/rule change.

If 14 do and 6 don't, they're in breach surely- 3 of them would go down certainly... could always send all six down:whistle2:

Hmm, wasn't far off by the looks!? 😆

https://mobile.twitter.com/MattHughesDM/status/1258293453806600194

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3 minutes ago, mozo said:

The lobbying and self-interested scheming is embarrassing. Particularly when disguised as ethical concern.

Think the gist of the tweet/story.

Not read it the article yet but seems to be that the other PL clubs could relegate the bottom 3 if they block project restart.

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3 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Think the gist of the tweet/story.

Not read it the article yet but seems to be that the other PL clubs could relegate the bottom 3 if they block project restart.

Haven't read it but I think the PL would vote for a system like France where the table stands/season completed as is and the bottom 3 would go down.

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