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The Coronavirus and its impact on sport

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I see that Hull have had leaked sent another letter about their stance on the remaining Championship season.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/05/23/exclusive-hull-city-reiterates-opposition-championship-second/

I did find it amusing that they were complaining about the first one being leaked- how long have they been in the game, they surely know it is a leaky industry and has been for some time.

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23 hours ago, BCFC11 said:

However the leagues get decided it will never please everyone, Take Charlton and Hull for example both from what I’ve read want the season to be voided, why? Only because it suits them and they don’t get relegated by either playing out the remaining games or by PPG, same goes for ourselves on wanting to play out the season.

Im of the opinion where no matter how long it takes for it to be safe enough is to play the last 9 games, the season is too far gone to just wipe it out as if it never happened, and simply don’t agree with the PPG scenario and if players like Deeney, Kante, Rose etc don’t feel safe enough to play then it’s pretty simple don’t play then let others who want to play get on with it.

From a selfish point of view, I want the season to continue and Hull to go down. 

 

I'd win almost enough for a season ticket from a bet I put on, 

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5 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

I see that Hull have had leaked sent another letter about their stance on the remaining Championship season.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/05/23/exclusive-hull-city-reiterates-opposition-championship-second/

I did find it amusing that they were complaining about the first one being leaked- how long have they been in the game, they surely know it is a leaky industry and has been for some time.

If they object to it that strongly they should forfeit all their remaining games on principle. 

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18 minutes ago, wayne allisons tongues said:

Bournemouth Player confirmed as 1 of the 2 positives from this weeks test. 2 in 900 is good, but if player had played a match would it have messed up the whole fixture list.

We just can't go through life saying ifs and buts.

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The thing for me about all this is the players aren't isolating in hotels like the German teams are, that's probably part the reason they've been successful in restarting their leagues, there's no way to guarantee other people in the house won't bring the virus home when the players/staff here are still living at home. 

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25 minutes ago, wayne allisons tongues said:

Bournemouth Player confirmed as 1 of the 2 positives from this weeks test. 2 in 900 is good, but if player had played a match would it have messed up the whole fixture list.

No

Because this is why they are being frequently tested to stop that happening 

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Just now, hodge said:

The thing for me about all this is the players aren't isolating in hotels like the German teams are, that's probably part the reason they've been successful in restarting their leagues, there's no way to guarantee other people in the house won't bring the virus home when the players/staff here are still living at home. 

Good point. Were the Germans isolating when training or just now when playing?

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1 minute ago, OldlandReddies said:

Good point. Were the Germans isolating when training or just now when playing?

I believe it was during training as well, there may have been a small initial period where they were at home when they first returned to training but I've not even heard real suggestions of players over here isolating in hotels. Can you imagine league 1 teams trying to afford that.

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Just now, hodge said:

I believe it was during training as well, there may have been a small initial period where they were at home when they first returned to training but I've not even heard real suggestions of players over here isolating in hotels. Can you imagine league 1 teams trying to afford that.

Lee suggested it at the start of the virus outbreak 

1 minute ago, wayne allisons tongues said:

German players are going home to there families after games.

Thanks. Next ......

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5 minutes ago, wayne allisons tongues said:

German players are going home to there families after games.

Has this changed? When watching either sky sports news or a game you could see the home team coach arriving and sure I heard them saying from the hotel? 

Just seen a line in a story, essentially hotels are available if they don't feel comfortable living at home

Players can live either in team hotels or at home, but sex and kissing is banned if they or their partners show symptoms of the virus.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8311531/Wolfsburg-staying-expensive-quarantine-hotel-Bundesliga-side.html

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3 minutes ago, hodge said:

Has this changed? When watching either sky sports news or a game you could see the home team coach arriving and sure I heard them saying from the hotel? 

Just seen a line in a story, essentially hotels are available if they don't feel comfortable living at home

Players can live either in team hotels or at home, but sex and kissing is banned if they or their partners show symptoms of the virus.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8311531/Wolfsburg-staying-expensive-quarantine-hotel-Bundesliga-side.html

https://www.sportbible.com/football/news-bundesliga-set-list-of-rules-for-players-ahead-of-return-on-9-may-20200426
 

About to paste similar, 5 live German football reporter was saying some clubs have accommodation at there training ground and players are staying there. Other clubs haven’t but players stay in Hotels etc. before games.

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EFL update:

The EFL can confirm that 1014 players and Club staff from all 24 Championship Clubs have been tested for COVID-19 over the course of the last 72 hours, with two individuals testing positive from one Club.

Those players or Club staff who have tested positive will now self-isolate in line with the guidelines provided by the EFL and only those who have tested negative will be permitted to enter training ground facilities.

The EFL will continue to make regular and relevant announcements as appropriate in respect of the testing programme to support competition integrity and transparency.

No specific details as to Clubs or individuals will be provided by the League.

https://www.efl.com/news/2020/may/efl-statement-covid-19-test-results/

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1 hour ago, wayne allisons tongues said:

Bournemouth Player confirmed as 1 of the 2 positives from this weeks test. 2 in 900 is good, but if player had played a match would it have messed up the whole fixture list.

I would assume that's why they test them so that sort of thing doesn't happen.

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49 minutes ago, hodge said:

The thing for me about all this is the players aren't isolating in hotels like the German teams are, that's probably part the reason they've been successful in restarting their leagues, there's no way to guarantee other people in the house won't bring the virus home when the players/staff here are still living at home. 

Newcastle, Middlesbrough and Sunderland have all chosen to self-isolate near Barnard Castle 👀

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7 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said:

EFL update:

The EFL can confirm that 1014 players and Club staff from all 24 Championship Clubs have been tested for COVID-19 over the course of the last 72 hours, with two individuals testing positive from one Club.

Those players or Club staff who have tested positive will now self-isolate in line with the guidelines provided by the EFL and only those who have tested negative will be permitted to enter training ground facilities.

The EFL will continue to make regular and relevant announcements as appropriate in respect of the testing programme to support competition integrity and transparency.

No specific details as to Clubs or individuals will be provided by the League.

https://www.efl.com/news/2020/may/efl-statement-covid-19-test-results/

Odds on it being Hull?

38 minutes ago, wayne allisons tongues said:

https://www.sportbible.com/football/news-bundesliga-set-list-of-rules-for-players-ahead-of-return-on-9-may-20200426
 

About to paste similar, 5 live German football reporter was saying some clubs have accommodation at there training ground and players are staying there. Other clubs haven’t but players stay in Hotels etc. before games.

Ah are they only staying in hotels after their tests about 48 hours before kick off?

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22 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said:

EFL update:

The EFL can confirm that 1014 players and Club staff from all 24 Championship Clubs have been tested for COVID-19 over the course of the last 72 hours, with two individuals testing positive from one Club.

Those players or Club staff who have tested positive will now self-isolate in line with the guidelines provided by the EFL and only those who have tested negative will be permitted to enter training ground facilities.

The EFL will continue to make regular and relevant announcements as appropriate in respect of the testing programme to support competition integrity and transparency.

No specific details as to Clubs or individuals will be provided by the League.

https://www.efl.com/news/2020/may/efl-statement-covid-19-test-results/

That's a pleasant surprise, I expected a dozen positive tests at least

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1 hour ago, View from the Dolman said:

EFL update:

The EFL can confirm that 1014 players and Club staff from all 24 Championship Clubs have been tested for COVID-19 over the course of the last 72 hours, with two individuals testing positive from one Club.

Those players or Club staff who have tested positive will now self-isolate in line with the guidelines provided by the EFL and only those who have tested negative will be permitted to enter training ground facilities.

The EFL will continue to make regular and relevant announcements as appropriate in respect of the testing programme to support competition integrity and transparency.

No specific details as to Clubs or individuals will be provided by the League.

https://www.efl.com/news/2020/may/efl-statement-covid-19-test-results/

Let’s get this show on the road. 

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4 hours ago, View from the Dolman said:

EFL update:

The EFL can confirm that 1014 players and Club staff from all 24 Championship Clubs have been tested for COVID-19 over the course of the last 72 hours, with two individuals testing positive from one Club.

Those players or Club staff who have tested positive will now self-isolate in line with the guidelines provided by the EFL and only those who have tested negative will be permitted to enter training ground facilities.

The EFL will continue to make regular and relevant announcements as appropriate in respect of the testing programme to support competition integrity and transparency.

No specific details as to Clubs or individuals will be provided by the League.

https://www.efl.com/news/2020/may/efl-statement-covid-19-test-results/

With that great news then they should just crack on. No need for it to be put to a vote now. Clearly it's as safe as it is ever going to be. 

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25 minutes ago, OldlandReddies said:

With that great news then they should just crack on. No need for it to be put to a vote now. Clearly it's as safe as it is ever going to be. 

 

Screenshot_20200524-173631_Sky News.jpg

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3 hours ago, View from the Dolman said:

No need for odds now...

 

Hmmmmmmmm. Let's hope there is a robust chain of evidence check in place for these tests.... 

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7 minutes ago, OldlandReddies said:

Fantastic news. Clearly it was right for the Govt to Act on a worse case scenario but great news that it hasn't turned out anywhere near as bad as they thought.  

And other studies are seemingly finding immunity could only last 6 months, based on immunity when looking at other corona-viruses 

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5 minutes ago, hodge said:

And other studies are seemingly finding immunity could only last 6 months, based on immunity when looking at other corona-viruses 

Bloody hell you are a glass half empty man............you are not from Wuhan Laboratory are you ? :laugh: !

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39 minutes ago, OldlandReddies said:

Bloody hell you are a glass half empty man............you are not from Wuhan Laboratory are you ? :laugh: !

You do know that wanting everything to be the best case possible doesn't make it so?

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Huddersfield’s owner saying that realistically to survive financially until there’s a vaccine and large crowds can return then clubs need to reduce wages to 30%-50% of what they are now 

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Sorry if mentioned elsewhere but Lansdown quoted in the Post as saying he's confident that resumption has the numbers. 

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8 hours ago, mozo said:

Sorry if mentioned elsewhere but Lansdown quoted in the Post as saying he's confident that resumption has the numbers. 

He said the same on PW last week - he confirmed we were voting in favour of the restart as well.

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11 hours ago, mozo said:

Sorry if mentioned elsewhere but Lansdown quoted in the Post as saying he's confident that resumption has the numbers. 

They’ve transcribed his bbc points west interview 

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19 minutes ago, hodge said:

Fair play, Man Utd being somewhat decent

 

Yes, fair play to Man Utd, but unfair on other clubs who might have wanted them on loan but couldn’t afford at the time.

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Just now, Davefevs said:

Yes, fair play to Man Utd, but unfair on other clubs who might have wanted them on loan but couldn’t afford at the time.

To be fair if the clubs are covering wages for the season they have covered the season and would have only budgeted till the end of June, looks like they'll be expected to cover more than that now which they wouldn't have.

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15 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Yes, fair play to Man Utd, but unfair on other clubs who might have wanted them on loan but couldn’t afford at the time.

Unfair on other clubs who are paying loan fees for players from other clubs and are struggling to pay it. 

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20 minutes ago, hodge said:

To be fair if the clubs are covering wages for the season they have covered the season and would have only budgeted till the end of June, looks like they'll be expected to cover more than that now which they wouldn't have.

That’s a fair point, but....

6 minutes ago, wayne allisons tongues said:

Unfair on other clubs who are paying loan fees for players from other clubs and are struggling to pay it. 

...at the end of the day, there’s gonna be winners and losers in many ways as we complete (or not) this season.  Hey ho.

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8 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

That’s a fair point, but....

...at the end of the day, there’s gonna be winners and losers in many ways as we complete (or not) this season.  Hey ho.

I agree and wouldn’t complain if Leicester said we don’t have to pay for Benkovic. Just doesn’t feel fair on other clubs who are struggling to survive and have to pay out for loan players.

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37 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52777399

Interesting from Birmingham - the article refers to them leaving when their contracts expire at the end of June so no extensions from the club I guess. Of course. they may want to leave then anyway.

They've got an interesting run in, congested fixtures, less players, 8 points above the drop. Could see them getting twitchy.

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16 hours ago, hodge said:

Huddersfield’s owner saying that realistically to survive financially until there’s a vaccine and large crowds can return then clubs need to reduce wages to 30%-50% of what they are now 

Trouble is what if a vaccine is not found what then? realistically that would mean 60% of clubs would probably go bust with no crowds allowed. I'm assuming the championship and premier league would then be relying on tv money and any sponsorship they could get, I suppose city would be one of the clubs that could  survive a long period without crowds due to Steve Lansdown but there is no guarantee he would continue to bankroll the club.

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1 hour ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52777399

Interesting from Birmingham - the article refers to them leaving when their contracts expire at the end of June so no extensions from the club I guess. Of course. they may want to leave then anyway.

Are they under any embargo at the mo’.

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