bristolcitysweden Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) If people can get there eyes on more positive and developing interests than self destructive, boring, pedestrian games of football as a Saturday pleasure it's only a good thing Edited March 10, 2020 by bristolcitysweden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 10 minutes ago, Northern Red said: I'm surprised Cheltenham has gone ahead, having been there myself in the past you couldn't ask for a better environment to spread it around. If one person has walked in there today with it then hundreds are taking it home with them. Agree with that, horrible place. I've only been once and picked up a minging stomach bug. Insanity that it's going ahead, though I'd imagine the number of actual attendees will be lower than usual as many work companies cancel their trips. Good news for the people that do make it as they might actually be able to get served a beer in less than 30 minutes. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Wilson Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 23 minutes ago, elhombrecito said: La Liga games behind closed doors for the next two rounds of fixtures. Austrian Bundesliga has just been suspended (and they don’t even have 200 cases), leagues are gonna be decided on FIFA at this rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Sturny said: I could not delete this one so will just say 'Hi Sturny, howz it going today?' 1 hour ago, bredwood said: I think I'll be OK as I used to drink loads of this when I was a kid so I'm immune to it: Thems were the days. I assume Corona is long since gone as a brand? If not then sadly it soon will be although I would be out in a flash buying it. But that's just me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Wade Wilson said: Austrian Bundesliga has just been suspended (and they don’t even have 200 cases), leagues are gonna be decided on FIFA at this rate. To be fair, everyone lost interest once Haaland left... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxy27 Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 19 minutes ago, Marlborough Red said: Some simple Maths lead me to the conclusion that the effect on the health of the UK from Coronavirus will not be anything like as bad as the media suggest. We can probably all agree that China, where it originated , has been hit the hardest with 80,761 people having contracted the Virus and 3,136 deaths, The virus now seems to be under control in China with only 26 new cases yesterday in a population of 1 billion,400 million people. The % of the Chinese population who tested positive for Coronavirus is only 0.006 %. This in the worst affected country. Lets assume worst case , 1 % of UK testing positive,. Almost 200 times higher infection rate than China 1% of the UK 67 million population represents 670,000 people who would get the Virus (currently 321) Assuming current death rate in UK of 1.87% dying from the virus Therefore expected deaths in UK from the Coronavirus could be around 12,529. (currently 5) Highly unlikely we would get 4 times as many deaths as China in a UK population a fraction of the size Using the Chinese Data , the number of UK infections drops to 4,020 and deaths drop to less than 100 ! Bear in mind that 616,014 people die every year in the UK, 11,848 UK deaths every week so you can perhaps see why I believe we are significantly exaggerating the impact of Coronavirus on the UK . The economic damage caused by the panic is in my opinion far more dangerous in the long term to our economy and national prosperity I think your simple maths is quite seriously flawed for multiple reasons. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Wilson Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, mozo said: To be fair, everyone lost interest once Haaland left... Salzburg’s results have nosedived since he and Minamino left. Virus to the rescue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, havanatopia said: I could not delete this one so will just say 'Hi Sturny, howz it going today?' Thems were the days. I assume Corona is long since gone as a brand? If not then sadly it soon will be although I would be out in a flash buying it. But that's just me. You used to get 2p I think if you took the empty back to a shop! What a great idea, very environmental, good incentive to recycle, this is what Greta should be trying to push not blaming past generations who actually were way more environmentally friendly back in the day! Edited March 10, 2020 by Tinmans Love Child 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted March 10, 2020 Admin Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 28 minutes ago, Northern Red said: I'm surprised Cheltenham has gone ahead, having been there myself in the past you couldn't ask for a better environment to spread it around. If one person has walked in there today with it then hundreds are taking it home with them. But surely this just proves the real possibility of catching the virus is next to none? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlborough Red Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 10 minutes ago, Coxy27 said: I think your simple maths is quite seriously flawed for multiple reasons. Perhaps you could expand on your comments. These are all facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, Tinmans Love Child said: You used to get 2p I think if you took the empty back to a shop! What a great idea, very environmental, good incentive to recycle, this is what Greta should be trying to push not blaming past generations who actually were way more environmentally friendly back in the day! They do it in Germany. Maybe they do it already in Greta's Sweden? In Germany it is called 'Pfand'. You'll see homeless people rooting around bins to fill their bags with discarded glass bottles. They can then collect the cents from the supermarket. Excellent system. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, mozo said: They do it in Germany. Maybe they do it already in Greta's Sweden? In Germany it is called 'Pfand'. You'll see homeless people rooting around bins to fill their bags with discarded glass bottles. They can then collect the cents from the supermarket. Excellent system. They should introduce a scheme for those little laughing gas canisters that get left on the floor, might encourage those crazy kids to not chuck them on the floor after their mild 5 second high 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, AppyDAZE said: Got me thinking what was that other drinks company that set up in the 70s, and their lorries used to go round the streets selling their stuff? Not sure they lasted long, but they often had jobs going for young kids as drivers mates. This is (no joking) bugging me.. Help! Who were they or am i imagining this? Alpine. We used to get it delivered in Keynsham. Edited March 10, 2020 by exAtyeoMax 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 9 minutes ago, mozo said: They do it in Germany. Maybe they do it already in Greta's Sweden? In Germany it is called 'Pfand'. You'll see homeless people rooting around bins to fill their bags with discarded glass bottles. They can then collect the cents from the supermarket. Excellent system. Corona still going strong in Germany? Excellent. Will be off there soon then. Fabulous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, havanatopia said: Corona still going strong in Germany? Excellent. Will be off there soon then. Fabulous. I'm not in Germany but I noticed on the Corona map that they're infected too. If you hear anyone say Gazundheit, stay well clear! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 1 hour ago, bredwood said: I think I'll be OK as I used to drink loads of this when I was a kid so I'm immune to it: When they heard about the virus spreading, Corona bottled it ( a bit like Leeds and Derby in recent seasons). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willem ii Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 All matches in province Noord Brabant in The Netherlands for professional football are canceled tHis weekend, including the home game of Willem II... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, willem ii said: All matches in province Noord Brabant in The Netherlands for professional football are canceled tHis weekend, including the home game of Willem II... Do the Dutch have the Pfand system out of interest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 2 hours ago, AppyDAZE said: Got me thinking what was that other drinks company that set up in the 70s, and their lorries used to go round the streets selling their stuff? Not sure they lasted long, but they often had jobs going for young kids as drivers mates. This is (no joking) bugging me.. Help! Who were they or am i imagining this? It was the Alpine Lorry. My dad used to drive one. Us kids would always nick a couple of bottles off the back of the lorry when he wasn’t looking. Not the dandelion & burdock though - horrible stuff that! When you made a new purchase you could return your empties and get money back. Great system. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 43 minutes ago, phantom said: But surely this just proves the real possibility of catching the virus is next to none? It has a higher transmission rate than the flu, so unless you've never had the flu, then you have a real possibility of being infected by covid-19. Fairly obvious that an event like Cheltenham where the bars resemble a cattle market are going to be hot-spots for viruses to be transmitted (not just covid-19). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) I think most of us will get it, but the key thing is for 80% of people, its only a mild illness. And around 3% of people die - mostly people with underlying illnesses Certainly no need for this hysteria. Edit: to people disliking this comment, these facts come from the World Health Organisation. Stop believing the hype! Edited March 10, 2020 by Riaz 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted March 10, 2020 Admin Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 18 minutes ago, Riaz said: I think most of us will get it, but the key thing is for 80% of people, its only a mild illness. And around 3% of people die - mostly people with underlying illnesses Certainly no need for this hysteria. Edit: to people disliking this comment, these facts come from the World Health Organisation. Stop believing the hype! Is it really as high as 80% and as high as 3%? I would have expected both figures to be less, but then I guess WHO do look at worst case scenarios But @Riaz it must be true I've seen links on Facebook and in The Sun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted March 10, 2020 Admin Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 26 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: It has a higher transmission rate than the flu, so unless you've never had the flu, then you have a real possibility of being infected by covid-19. Fairly obvious that an event like Cheltenham where the bars resemble a cattle market are going to be hot-spots for viruses to be transmitted (not just covid-19). Exactly, so just going home with the squirts like every other year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Northern Red said: I'm surprised Cheltenham has gone ahead, having been there myself in the past you couldn't ask for a better environment to spread it around. If one person has walked in there today with it then hundreds are taking it home with them. It is worth bearing in mind the average person with it infects 2 or 3 people. That is worse than flu but still suggests most infections will come from close personal contact with friends, colleagues or family rather than one person at a public event passing it onto hundreds of people. That is not to play down a need for concern as an infection that doubles or triplicates will still quite quickly infect large numbers but it is unlikely any single person or event will create hundreds of cases all in one go. However two or three taking it home to new parts of the country would still be a problem. 14 minutes ago, Riaz said: I think most of us will get it, but the key thing is for 80% of people, its only a mild illness. And around 3% of people die - mostly people with underlying illnesses Certainly no need for this hysteria. Edit: to people disliking this comment, these facts come from the World Health Organisation. Stop believing the hype! If the figure is correct that 60% of people would get it if no action was taken, it should be possible to get that number down with action. But, if even a third of us got it and 1% died, that would still be 230 000 additional deaths. There were 616 000 deaths in the UK in 2018 total so that is a lot of extra deaths. (If it was 3% and over 50% of the population were infected, we are talking over a million deaths. Much over 50% and 3% and you get more deaths from coronavirus than all other causes combined) You are talking about massive, massive numbers of deaths whilst telling people they are overreacting. And anyone minimalising this because it will mostly hit elderly and disabled people ignores how many people have got elderly or disabled people in their lives they care about. The fact it mostly hits certain population segments does not make it any way okay, nor reassure anyone except the most self interested of people. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, phantom said: Is it really as high as 80% and as high as 3%? I would have expected both figures to be less, but then I guess WHO do look at worst case scenarios But @Riaz it must be true I've seen links on Facebook and in The Sun I've read "most of us" will get it but not really sure if that means anything over 50 percent. It's really really starting to get on my tits and i just wish it would **** off and we could all go on living our bleedin' lives properly. Edited March 10, 2020 by AppyDAZE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willem ii Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 36 minutes ago, mozo said: Do the Dutch have the Pfand system out of interest? What do you mean with Pfand system? We have such a thing for plastic bottles, but in which connection to football? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow&Blue&Red Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 Everyone keeps focussing on these 2 stats: - 80% get it mildly - 1-3% are killed by it... we don't really know yet. But a major concern is the people in the middle: -15% get severe symptoms (some of whom may need to be hospitalised) - 5% get critically ill and WILL need hospital (some of whom then die) For many people this will be FAR worse than the flu and it's because of this group - the whole 20% who have severe symptoms or worse - that we're talking about social distancing etc. Only 10,000 people have got Covid-19 in Italy and the hospitals are already creaking - as you'd expect - 2,000 extra people in a relatively small area needing hospitalisation and respirators - no health service has that much spare capacity. Ours certainly doesn't. We're not thinking about cancelling all major sporting events and closing schools just because of a few thousand or tens of thousands of extra deaths which from a whole population perspective isn't that serious (although for the people and families involved, it clearly is and it's flippant and calous to say otherwise). We're thinking of these uniquely serious steps because there's no way our infrastructre could cope if very large numbers of us got the disease at the same time - which is certainly possible without these steps. We MUST delay how fast it travels through the population to improve our capacity to handle it as as a society. The good news - and there is some! - is that the number of new cases has declined for two days in a row. Far, far too early to say this is a trend. But it's better than the alternatives. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUTOR Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) Would anyone actually want to see city go up on the tele in an empty Wembley? Edited March 10, 2020 by Bouncearoundtheground Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 The mortality rate in Italy is about 5% so nobody should play down the risks. Even if you don't care because you are young and fit, you don't want to be giving it to your older friends and relatives (or anyone else for that matter). 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUTOR Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said: The mortality rate in Italy is about 5% so nobody should play down the risks. Even if you don't care because you are young and fit, you don't want to be giving it to your older friends and relatives (or anyone else for that matter). I agree fully with the last sentence however it is worth noting that Italy has the oldest population in Europe and the second oldest in the world. That mortality rate doesn’t represent the wider number Edited March 10, 2020 by Bouncearoundtheground 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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