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The Coronavirus and its impact on sport

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2 minutes ago, Jack on off ski said:

I think Scott Murray is still on 2009 version haha

Jet and Baldock, I miss that partnership in real life!

Blimey that is an old one. I had to ditch Fontaine as he wasn't up to Premier League level!

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3 hours ago, eardun said:

I can’t see the season restarting at all given we’re still 10-14 weeks from the peak. I reckon it will be ‘season abandoned’ as if it never happened. In that scenario, glad we’re not in the top 6! And glad we’re not Liverpool! 

On the down side, it means Villa stay up!

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3 minutes ago, Super said:

Blimey that is an old one. I had to ditch Fontaine as he wasn't up to Premier League level!

To be honest, I usually like to manage from the bottom in Conference North/South, like Bath or Weston and then buy fringe city players like Marc Goodfellow, Joe Anyinsah, Elliot Benyon...Aden Flint is about Conference level on that game too

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35 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said:

Yes, since I have followed football since I was 7 and I'm   cough cough, a little older (think 50 and upward) now...

It was a silly little joke, I'm not a Man U fan either btw... I only follow BCFC.

You make a good point, and i reckon Liverpool should be given the title anyway.

They won it at a canter. And fair play to them, says I.

You need to get that cough seen to .

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44 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said:

 

You make a good point, and i reckon Liverpool should be given the title anyway.

They won it at a canter. And fair play to them, says I.

You obviously didn't see today's Triumph Hurdle at Cheltenham !  😎

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On 10/03/2020 at 22:30, ZiderEyed said:

I'm currently self isolating on the advice of my GP. Despite the fact im quite young and pretty fit I do feel like death, and I'd rather not give anything to someone who would seriously suffer with it.

I was told I'm not going to be screened because (despite showing all symptoms) I haven't been abroad at all, which puts paid to any idea I had of remaining NHS sensibility. There's 2 other people in buildings within 200yds of me also under isolation so I'm shit scared.

Similar situation here. I have been abroad, to Malta where a lot of Italians travel to but I was told that because I haven't been in contact with anyone who is known to be positive, and I hadn't been to Italy, I was not going to be tested. Day 5 of self isolation here. Still feel bolloxed 

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1 hour ago, NewquayRed said:

Implications of almost every scenario are massive, gonna take some sorting out - reckon a 5 aside competition is the best approach 10min's each half, done and dusted over a bank holiday weekend.

Rolling subs?

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Kensington and Chelsea: 19

Hertfordshire: 18

Oxfordshire: 17

Hampshire: 15

Devon: 13

Surrey: 13

Westminster: 12

Camden: 11

Southwark: 11

Barnet: 9

Kent: 9

Brighton and Hove: 8

Liverpool: 8

Torbay: 7

Manchester: 7

Leeds: 7

Lambeth: 7

Wandsworth: 7

Cumbria: 7

Newcastle upon Tyne: 6

Tower Hamlets: 6

Essex: 6

Nottinghamshire: 6

Cornwall and Isles of Scilly: 5

Ealing: 5

Hounslow: 5

Lewisham: 5

Sutton: 5

Lancashire: 5

Northamptonshire: 5

Bracknell Forest: 4

Wiltshire: 4

Trafford: 4

Oldham: 4

Wirral: 4

Wolverhampton: 4

Hackney and City of London: 4

Buckinghamshire: 4

Derbyshire: 4

North Yorkshire: 4

Staffordshire: 4

Warwickshire: 4

York: 3

Nottingham: 3

Bristol, City of: 3

Wokingham: 3

Bournemouth, Christchurch and Poole: 3

Bolton: 3

Bury: 3

Wigan: 3

Sheffield: 3

Coventry: 3

Bradford: 3

Barking and Dagenham: 3

Brent: 3

Hammersmith and Fulham: 3

Haringey: 3

Hillingdon: 3

Gloucestershire: 3

West Sussex: 3

Stockton-on-Tees: 2

Blackpool: 2

Leicester: 2

Swindon: 2

Luton: 2

Medway: 2

Reading: 2

Milton Keynes: 2

Cheshire West and Chester: 2

Shropshire: 2

Barnsley: 2

North Tyneside: 2

Birmingham: 2

Calderdale: 2

Bromley: 2

Havering: 2

Merton: 2

Leicestershire: 2

Warrington: 1

Kingston upon Hull, City of: 1

North Lincolnshire: 1

Derby: 1

Herefordshire, County of: 1

South Gloucestershire: 1

Peterborough: 1

Southend-on-Sea: 1

Slough: 1

Windsor and Maidenhead: 1

Isle of Wight: 1

County Durham: 1

Rochdale: 1

Tameside: 1

Sefton: 1

Rotherham: 1

Sunderland: 1

Dudley: 1

Kirklees: 1

Croydon: 1

Enfield: 1

Greenwich: 1

Harrow: 1

Islington: 1

Kingston upon Thames: 1

Redbridge: 1

Richmond upon Thames: 1

Waltham Forest: 1

Cambridgeshire: 1

Lincolnshire: 1

Somerset: 1

Suffolk: 1

 

 

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5 minutes ago, phantom said:

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Kensington and Chelsea: 19

Hertfordshire: 18

Oxfordshire: 17

Hampshire: 15

Devon: 13

Surrey: 13

Westminster: 12

Camden: 11

Southwark: 11

Barnet: 9

Kent: 9

Brighton and Hove: 8

Liverpool: 8

Torbay: 7

Manchester: 7

Leeds: 7

Lambeth: 7

Wandsworth: 7

Cumbria: 7

Newcastle upon Tyne: 6

Tower Hamlets: 6

Essex: 6

Nottinghamshire: 6

Cornwall and Isles of Scilly: 5

Ealing: 5

Hounslow: 5

Lewisham: 5

Sutton: 5

Lancashire: 5

Northamptonshire: 5

Bracknell Forest: 4

Wiltshire: 4

Trafford: 4

Oldham: 4

Wirral: 4

Wolverhampton: 4

Hackney and City of London: 4

Buckinghamshire: 4

Derbyshire: 4

North Yorkshire: 4

Staffordshire: 4

Warwickshire: 4

York: 3

Nottingham: 3

Bristol, City of: 3

Wokingham: 3

Bournemouth, Christchurch and Poole: 3

Bolton: 3

Bury: 3

Wigan: 3

Sheffield: 3

Coventry: 3

Bradford: 3

Barking and Dagenham: 3

Brent: 3

Hammersmith and Fulham: 3

Haringey: 3

Hillingdon: 3

Gloucestershire: 3

West Sussex: 3

Stockton-on-Tees: 2

Blackpool: 2

Leicester: 2

Swindon: 2

Luton: 2

Medway: 2

Reading: 2

Milton Keynes: 2

Cheshire West and Chester: 2

Shropshire: 2

Barnsley: 2

North Tyneside: 2

Birmingham: 2

Calderdale: 2

Bromley: 2

Havering: 2

Merton: 2

Leicestershire: 2

Warrington: 1

Kingston upon Hull, City of: 1

North Lincolnshire: 1

Derby: 1

Herefordshire, County of: 1

South Gloucestershire: 1

Peterborough: 1

Southend-on-Sea: 1

Slough: 1

Windsor and Maidenhead: 1

Isle of Wight: 1

County Durham: 1

Rochdale: 1

Tameside: 1

Sefton: 1

Rotherham: 1

Sunderland: 1

Dudley: 1

Kirklees: 1

Croydon: 1

Enfield: 1

Greenwich: 1

Harrow: 1

Islington: 1

Kingston upon Thames: 1

Redbridge: 1

Richmond upon Thames: 1

Waltham Forest: 1

Cambridgeshire: 1

Lincolnshire: 1

Somerset: 1

Suffolk: 1

 

 

Yet again, we can't break into the top 6...

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52 minutes ago, Stedge said:

If games were played in summer, evening kick offs could offset the heat factor.

Football on a nice summer evening followed by a few on north street sounds like perfection to me!

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In all seriousness (yes, rare on here I know), we all know something pretty bad is happening and I wish all fellow reds and their families good fortune over the next few weeks. Actually, that applies to everyone but especially to our fellow cidereds.

Stay safe people. 

Here' a dilemma.

If you're middle aged, you're a lot more resilient than your parents so could carry the virus without being too bad. Are we supposed to refrain from physically visiting the older generation who wouldn't be as resilient just in case we, inadvertently, pass it on to them? 

Tough times.

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9 minutes ago, redsince1994 said:

Football on a nice summer evening followed by a few on north street sounds like perfection to me!

It obviously isn’t good for the players, but summer football sounds great to me.  Just wearing a t-shirt to Tuesday night games?  Beers/ciders in a beer garden before/after the game?  Not having to walk home in the dark freezing to death?

The players always say they want a winter break….. ;) 

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22 minutes ago, phantom said:

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Kensington and Chelsea: 19

Hertfordshire: 18

Oxfordshire: 17

Hampshire: 15

Devon: 13

Surrey: 13

Westminster: 12

Camden: 11

Southwark: 11

Barnet: 9

Kent: 9

Brighton and Hove: 8

Liverpool: 8

Torbay: 7

Manchester: 7

Leeds: 7

Lambeth: 7

Wandsworth: 7

Cumbria: 7

Newcastle upon Tyne: 6

Tower Hamlets: 6

Essex: 6

Nottinghamshire: 6

Cornwall and Isles of Scilly: 5

Ealing: 5

Hounslow: 5

Lewisham: 5

Sutton: 5

Lancashire: 5

Northamptonshire: 5

Bracknell Forest: 4

Wiltshire: 4

Trafford: 4

Oldham: 4

Wirral: 4

Wolverhampton: 4

Hackney and City of London: 4

Buckinghamshire: 4

Derbyshire: 4

North Yorkshire: 4

Staffordshire: 4

Warwickshire: 4

York: 3

Nottingham: 3

Bristol, City of: 3

Wokingham: 3

Bournemouth, Christchurch and Poole: 3

Bolton: 3

Bury: 3

Wigan: 3

Sheffield: 3

Coventry: 3

Bradford: 3

Barking and Dagenham: 3

Brent: 3

Hammersmith and Fulham: 3

Haringey: 3

Hillingdon: 3

Gloucestershire: 3

West Sussex: 3

Stockton-on-Tees: 2

Blackpool: 2

Leicester: 2

Swindon: 2

Luton: 2

Medway: 2

Reading: 2

Milton Keynes: 2

Cheshire West and Chester: 2

Shropshire: 2

Barnsley: 2

North Tyneside: 2

Birmingham: 2

Calderdale: 2

Bromley: 2

Havering: 2

Merton: 2

Leicestershire: 2

Warrington: 1

Kingston upon Hull, City of: 1

North Lincolnshire: 1

Derby: 1

Herefordshire, County of: 1

South Gloucestershire: 1

Peterborough: 1

Southend-on-Sea: 1

Slough: 1

Windsor and Maidenhead: 1

Isle of Wight: 1

County Durham: 1

Rochdale: 1

Tameside: 1

Sefton: 1

Rotherham: 1

Sunderland: 1

Dudley: 1

Kirklees: 1

Croydon: 1

Enfield: 1

Greenwich: 1

Harrow: 1

Islington: 1

Kingston upon Thames: 1

Redbridge: 1

Richmond upon Thames: 1

Waltham Forest: 1

Cambridgeshire: 1

Lincolnshire: 1

Somerset: 1

Suffolk: 1

 

 

Why would anyone want yesterday's numbers?

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One positive with the postponed matches hopefully Afobe will be able to play more games now than he would have done otherwise by the end of the season 

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3 minutes ago, The Horse With No Name said:

And Nyatanga was ?

I didn't have him in the 2014 game. Had Flinty!

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The National League has just confirmed that all three of their leagues' games WILL be played as normal this weekend

12 minutes ago, Nomad said:

Why would anyone want yesterday's numbers?

Because it is the most up to date figures, unless you have a crystal ball that can provide what is happening today FFS !!

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Me too

Was in an office in Manchester past few days, one of the ladies we were with reported yesterday morning she had the symptoms

We were all immediately sent home and am working from home today and since been told to work from home next week and cancel all meetings from next week

Feel rough today still with sore throat and temperature, feels like I have a head cold

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8 minutes ago, phantom said:

The National League has just confirmed that all three of their leagues' games WILL be played as normal this weekend

Because it is the most up to date figures, unless you have a crystal ball that can provide what is happening today FFS !!

Try reading something more up to date ffs.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274

 

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Hull City are the latest club to donate food ordered for matchday following the suspension of games, with Aston Villa confirming 850 staff packed lunches are being donated to support homeless charities. “With food having already been delivered to the Kcom Stadium for tomorrow’s game, the club was keen to ensure it didn’t go to waste,” read a club statement. “Fresh fruit, vegetables and sandwiches have now been passed over to FareShare Hull & Humber, a charity that redistributes surplus food to over 120 organisations throughout the region. The club are pleased that this surplus food will go to people who really need it.

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1 hour ago, wayne allisons tongues said:

Trouble you have is clubs are still in Europe so have those games to play as well as FA Cup. PL Man City have 10 games to play as well as potentially 6 CL and 3 FA cup ties. That is 10 weeks to finish the season. 
EFL with play offs could be done in 7 weeks.

 

The FA should show the same disregard for player's wellbeing that they do with non-league players and make them play every other day, or in some occasions on consecutive days

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1 hour ago, Ska Junkie said:

In all seriousness (yes, rare on here I know), we all know something pretty bad is happening and I wish all fellow reds and their families good fortune over the next few weeks. Actually, that applies to everyone but especially to our fellow cidereds.

Stay safe people. 

Here' a dilemma.

If you're middle aged, you're a lot more resilient than your parents so could carry the virus without being too bad. Are we supposed to refrain from physically visiting the older generation who wouldn't be as resilient just in case we, inadvertently, pass it on to them? 

Tough times.

In France the government have banned visits  to old people’s homes to avoid contagion.

They are advising not to visit elderly relatives or friends and people over seventy have been asked to stay at home going out only when there is no other choice.

Am I the only one who is bewildered by all this ? 
 

I have never experienced anything like this in my entire life. 
 

To top it all, whilst I realise that the weaker members of our community are at risk of losing their lives , thousands die off each year with the flu . Why is this virus so much more important ? 
 

 

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4 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

In France the government have banned visits  to old people’s homes to avoid contagion.

They are advising not to visit elderly relatives or friends and people over seventy have been asked to stay at home going out only when there is no other choice.

Am I the only one who is bewildered by all this ? 
 

I have never experienced anything like this in my entire life. 
 

To top it all, whilst I realise that the weaker members of our community are at risk of losing their lives , thousands die off each year with the flu . Why is this virus so much more important ? 
 

 

Not just France Major. Happening here too. Many care home chains are stopping visits. 

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2 hours ago, bcfc01 said:

Its following the governments advice I suppose - the EFL and EPL etc are not following the advice and doing their own thing.

I don't think the EFL are going against government advice. That advice was about the issue of large gatherings. The EFL statement is clear that their decision is about the number of players now testing positive, squads in isolation and so on, it's about the players, not the crowds. 

Not sure whether it's hit rugby players or teams in the same way yet.

And, I suspect, by 3 April when the EFL review it, the government will have banned large gatherings anyway.

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12 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

In France the government have banned visits  to old people’s homes to avoid contagion.

They are advising not to visit elderly relatives or friends and people over seventy have been asked to stay at home going out only when there is no other choice.

Am I the only one who is bewildered by all this ? 
 

I have never experienced anything like this in my entire life. 
 

To top it all, whilst I realise that the weaker members of our community are at risk of losing their lives , thousands die off each year with the flu . Why is this virus so much more important ? 
 

 

This is more important because there is currently no treatment, whereas existing flus can be treated via flu jab

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10 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

To top it all, whilst I realise that the weaker members of our community are at risk of losing their lives , thousands die off each year with the flu . Why is this virus so much more important ? 

I assume because we have no imunity. Therefore it will spread to more people, meaning more vunerable people will get it, meaning a lot more of them will die.

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A lot of people were saying the season would not be CANCELLED. Now it is effectively postponed we see posters throwing mud even though it hasn’t been CANCELLED.  There is a difference between cancellation and postponement.  Not sure if it’s ignorance or posters wilfully being wrong.

If anyone would like to explain how a cancellation would work, I’d be most interested.  Just cannot see it but willing to listen to views on how it could happen 

 

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2 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

A lot of people were saying the season would not be CANCELLED. Now it is effectively postponed we see posters throwing mud even though it hasn’t been CANCELLED.  There is a difference between cancellation and postponement.  Not sure if it’s ignorance or posters wilfully being wrong.

If anyone would like to explain how a cancellation would work, I’d be most interested.  Just cannot see it but willing to listen to views on how it could happen 

 

I think the most common suggestion is restarting the season from August ie no promotions/relegations. Leeds winning in 1st place with no promotion would be pretty funny tbf.

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3 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

A lot of people were saying the season would not be CANCELLED. Now it is effectively postponed we see posters throwing mud even though it hasn’t been CANCELLED.  There is a difference between cancellation and postponement.  Not sure if it’s ignorance or posters wilfully being wrong.

If anyone would like to explain how a cancellation would work, I’d be most interested.  Just cannot see it but willing to listen to views on how it could happen 

 

to be honest, i really don't give a toss about the difference between cancellation or postponement. This transcends football and should be treated accordingly. Watching from afar, am horrified by Britain's response to what is a major world crisis. 

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2 minutes ago, Septic Peg said:

I think the most common suggestion is restarting the season from August ie no promotions/relegations. Leeds winning in 1st place with no promotion would be pretty funny tbf.

Just seems unlikely that with 20% of the season left to just say ‘scrap it’

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2 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

A lot of people were saying the season would not be CANCELLED. Now it is effectively postponed we see posters throwing mud even though it hasn’t been CANCELLED.  There is a difference between cancellation and postponement.  Not sure if it’s ignorance or posters wilfully being wrong.

If anyone would like to explain how a cancellation would work, I’d be most interested.  Just cannot see it but willing to listen to views on how it could happen 

 

I tend to agree, I still cant see it being outright cancelled there are just too many complications. I could possibly see a situation where players and staff have been isolated for a period of time (assuming thats what they intend to do) and then remaining fixtures played behind closed doors from the end of april in the safety of knowing the players are all clear)

I can't see the Euros going ahead now with all the travelling across Europe. That will have a huge impact the economy though especially with the number of countries involved expecting increased travel, tourism, bar and pub sales etc

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Just had the former FA Chief on TS he says that the season has to finish even if it means putting back the start of next season.

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9 minutes ago, Super said:

Just had the former FA Chief on TS he says that the season has to finish even if it means putting back the start of next season.

suits the world cup in quatar nicely! the plot thickens! 

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5 minutes ago, bristolcitysweden said:

There is no truth and nothing but no truth.

People guess. Some people on political grounds.

Some people not.

Evening Tommy. Early start tonight?

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1 hour ago, RaspberryRed said:

Hull City are the latest club to donate food ordered for matchday following the suspension of games, with Aston Villa confirming 850 staff packed lunches are being donated to support homeless charities. “With food having already been delivered to the Kcom Stadium for tomorrow’s game, the club was keen to ensure it didn’t go to waste,” read a club statement. “Fresh fruit, vegetables and sandwiches have now been passed over to FareShare Hull & Humber, a charity that redistributes surplus food to over 120 organisations throughout the region. The club are pleased that this surplus food will go to people who really need it.

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Well done to both!

I don't like Aston Villa's antics accounting wise but fair play to both for this!!

Mentions Fulham and Tranmere too in another article.

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The postponements will go on much longer than April 3rd I suspect, leading to a situation where sadly, the entire season will probably have to be written off.

On a more positive note, we are about to enter an international break, which will result in less postponements, so if the season can be restarted at some point, there will be a bit less catchup.

As I understand it, if a flight is cancelled, the airline has to refund your money, but if the football season is cancelled, the clubs get to keep your season ticket money 

A few clubs are teetering close to extinction and I think a number could go under as a result of this.  Whatever the financial outcomes though, the most important thing is keeping people safe.

On the virus itself, an Iranian scientist claims that there is evidence that it has been created in a laboratory and could not have been created naturally.  He seems to think that in time and with further analysis. this is going to be proven.

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12 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said:

The postponements will go on much longer than April 3rd I suspect, leading to a situation where sadly, the entire season will probably have to be written off.

On a more positive note, we are about to enter an international break, which will result in less postponements, so if the season can be restarted at some point, there will be a bit less catchup.

As I understand it, if a flight is cancelled, the airline has to refund your money, but if the football season is cancelled, the clubs get to keep your season ticket money 

A few clubs are teetering close to extinction and I think a number could go under as a result of this.  Whatever the financial outcomes though, the most important thing is keeping people safe.

On the virus itself, an Iranian scientist claims that there is evidence that it has been created in a laboratory and could not have been created naturally.  He seems to think that in time and with further analysis. this is going to be proven.

There's probably a few on here blaming the Russians,they blame them for everything else.

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Surely the best option if we're unable to play anytime soon would be to play the end of this season and the Euro's as soon as safe & cancel or shorten next season. 

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3 hours ago, Jack on off ski said:

I guess it's time to dust off the old football manager 2009 this weekend

I loved that version. Tried to set it up on my laptop recently but it won't run. 

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1 hour ago, Major Isewater said:

In France the government have banned visits  to old people’s homes to avoid contagion.

They are advising not to visit elderly relatives or friends and people over seventy have been asked to stay at home going out only when there is no other choice.

Am I the only one who is bewildered by all this ? 
 

I have never experienced anything like this in my entire life. 
 

To top it all, whilst I realise that the weaker members of our community are at risk of losing their lives , thousands die off each year with the flu . Why is this virus so much more important ? 
 

 

 

1 hour ago, Bob Turnip said:

I assume because we have no imunity. Therefore it will spread to more people, meaning more vunerable people will get it, meaning a lot more of them will die.

Also, I hear a lot of people saying 'flu kills people all the time, what's the fuss?' 

But surely they should be thinking, 'flu kills people all the time, let's prevent 2 or 3 times that amount losing their lives'. 

 

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An actual suggestion...

Re start next season with the current points and goal difference etc. Not ideal but given the circumstances at least it's fair and doesn't write off the good work done so far.

There will be winners and losers but if the projected numbers are even remotely accurate, football is not the priority. 

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