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The Coronavirus and its impact on sport

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A nation wakes up and wonders.... “am I meant to be going to work or not?”

No doubt there’s further announcements tonight, giving headlines but no details, and the details for last nights announcement will be released at some obscure time in the middle of the night. It’s basically the opposite of good communication.

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7 hours ago, Robin-hugh-blind said:

Good night rich boy 

You have had a lot to say over night, alas you didn't really say anything bar Me me me me me me what about me!

**** me you're a whiny little ***, hardship because you were not put first, you probably don't have a clue what real hardship is, there are people out there doing their best to keep people alive whilst risking their own lives and whilst having to spend time away from their own families.

There are also people working so selfish muppets  like you can get served their shopping and doing that while on low wages, no one is going to starve, no one is going to be evicted have their electricity or gas cut off, if you can't get food because you have no money their are people out there working to supply those that are struggling via food banks.

Many people are alone and scared, many have no one, but you know what,  we get on with it, we pull our purse strings in, cut back on our food intake and waste nothing and we isolate,  and you whine about losing some money.

Then to top it all you hope somone sneezes on someones dinner, really! 

About time you grew up.

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19 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

People have to go to work, there’s many hospitals, police stations, pharmacies, vital industries in London. I don’t expect they’re doing it for a laugh. The frequency of trains has been reduced dramatically, there will be an increase of people on each train even though the actual numbers of people have fallen

Partly true, but there are other forms of transport available in London. Plus I would guess, and only a guess, that not everyone on there has to be on that tube. It’s a London mentality, no one wants to back down as they believe they are the most important.

London cabbies are struggling at the moment so use them!

19 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

People have to go to work, there’s many hospitals, police stations, pharmacies, vital industries in London. I don’t expect they’re doing it for a laugh. The frequency of trains has been reduced dramatically, there will be an increase of people on each train even though the actual numbers of people have fallen

Partly true, but there are other forms of transport available in London. Plus I would guess, and only a guess, that not everyone on there has to be on that tube. It’s a London mentality, no one wants to back down as they believe they are the most important.

London cabbies are struggling at the moment so use them!

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40 minutes ago, MarcusX said:

 

Where are the Sun getting this? They’ve made this up as far as I can see.

Well, wherever they got it from the BBC did too.

The same list is on their website.

I haven't looked but I expect it is on the government website - also known as the OS 😂

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1 minute ago, formerly known as ivan said:

Partly true, but there are other forms of transport available in London. Plus I would guess, and only a guess, that not everyone on there has to be on that tube. It’s a London mentality, no one wants to back down as they believe they are the most important.

London cabbies are struggling at the moment so use them!

Yes but it also depends where you have to get to. Not everyone can afford a taxi at £50 a day across London.
I can’t seriously imagine people would put their life in peril because of arrogance. There’s just a lot of businesses in and around London. There may be people who haven’t had it confirmed to work at home yet 

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3 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

Yes but it also depends where you have to get to. Not everyone can afford a taxi at £50 a day across London.
I can’t seriously imagine people would put their life in peril because of arrogance. There’s just a lot of businesses in and around London. There may be people who haven’t had it confirmed to work at home yet 

Granted. But surely instead of cutting tube services they should be putting more on so people can keep their distance. Not all cram into trains like that . London is in big trouble 

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3 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said:

Granted. But surely instead of cutting tube services they should be putting more on so people can keep their distance. Not all cram into trains like that . London is in big trouble 

Yes, reducing the frequency wasn’t a good idea, they used to be every two minutes

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Where I live, Merseyrail have cut the number of trains per hour on each line from 4 to 2, however they've doubled train lengths from 3 carriages to 6 by joining units together so there's no loss of seats. 

I know not every operator can do that, especially on the Tube, but people having to cram on to fewer services defeats the object completely.

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1 hour ago, paul_fox said:

Very unclear. Will be a total lockdown by Friday 

Won't happen now, they had one chance of this and the general public are confused at the moment. Once they say LOCK DOWN people will say you changed the rules last time so I am not listening. 

We was warned by other countries that people will only listen once and IMO (not any one elses) this will backfire. 

I'm in heavy goods construction and can tell you that, not if any has cancelled their deliveries today.  

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Just had confirmation that it isn't the young that won't heed advice. Although retired I have a business selling pre-owned Mobility Scooters. Just had an elderly customer on the phone with a problem with his. Wanted to bring it up to me to look at. Told him couldn't see him due to the new rules. He hasn't been watching the TV and got quite irate about it !! Said the Golf Club was open yesterday but as I told him, that was yesterday. Then said he must get it sorted as he wants to get out and about and play golf. Incredible

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11 hours ago, RedRock said:

One of many issues, that we’ve all got to untangle, sick, dependent parents et al but anyone know of recommendations for dealing with shared access children? 

Would love to say that my partner’s daughter could sort it amicably with her ex but I don’t think that’s going to happen! Assume they’ve got to go to one side or the other for a period. Makes sense. ...but common sense goes out the window between warring factions ..even as I say if this is potentially a matter of life and death! 

Partner’s daughter was going to complete on her new house purchase next week ...don’t think it’s going to happen! Shite timing. 

 

 

Don’t know if this has been mentioned, but the government has confirmed that such children CAN visit each parent. On BBC live updates at 9.06, and Michael Gove on Twitter. Hope your partner’s daughter can sort this out amicably for the sake of everyone involved.

 

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30 minutes ago, oldstandrobin said:

Just had confirmation that it isn't the young that won't heed advice. Although retired I have a business selling pre-owned Mobility Scooters. Just had an elderly customer on the phone with a problem with his. Wanted to bring it up to me to look at. Told him couldn't see him due to the new rules. He hasn't been watching the TV and got quite irate about it !! Said the Golf Club was open yesterday but as I told him, that was yesterday. Then said he must get it sorted as he wants to get out and about and play golf. Incredible

On another forum a guy who is retired has said he's off out to do non essential voluntary work - totalling breaking the rules, he has been advised, cajoled and people have been down right blunt with him and he still thinks he should go because the treasurer of the club told him to... his wife is in poor health.  Some people are either so thick or have so little comprehension of what is going on, I despair.  

6 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

Anyone else had this text this morning?

 

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Yes.

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12 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

Anyone else had this text this morning?

 

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Yep.

Strange timing. Should have been sent at 6.00 am this morning IMO. 

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39 minutes ago, oldstandrobin said:

Just had confirmation that it isn't the young that won't heed advice. Although retired I have a business selling pre-owned Mobility Scooters. Just had an elderly customer on the phone with a problem with his. Wanted to bring it up to me to look at. Told him couldn't see him due to the new rules. He hasn't been watching the TV and got quite irate about it !! Said the Golf Club was open yesterday but as I told him, that was yesterday. Then said he must get it sorted as he wants to get out and about and play golf. Incredible

No age group has a monopoly on stupidity/selfishness.

My grandmother is still adamant that she’ll go out whenever she wants. My mum and my uncle are trying to make her listen, but they’ve got no chance.

Yesterday I had to go out for milk. I saw a large group of teenagers playing basketball together.

People just don’t listen.

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9 hours ago, bcfc01 said:

Indeed.

The devil will be in the detail and in the administration of it. 

Unfortunately, I have absolutely no faith that any of the schemes being put in place will be easy to obtain.

Apparently the "business loans" which were launched with a fanfare last week aren't necessarily business loans as banks are asking for personal guarantees - may as well be a personal loan secured on your own home. Not that I qualify for that anyway but it is a signal for how things are.

interesting because I thought government were securing 80% of the amount???

I'm waiting to see the detail for the business rate relief grants for which I qualify - I'm not holding my breath that they will be grants and, even if they are, I'm certain the bureaucracy will be arduous as local government have been tasked with administering it and they couldn't organise a straightforward piss up in a brewery. 

The self employed/soul trader/freelancer payments should be straightforward as the HMRC have all the returns - but I bet they will take a closer interest in peoples accounts if they apply for these payments. I don't care about that, all above board, but I'm absolutely positive that it will be a drawn out hassle and could lead to people being investigated later on.

I think contractors like me with 1 or 2 director limited company set-ups are gonna fall between the gaps.  We aren’t classed as employees in the majority of cases.  I’m not moaning per se, because there are lots of people who need the money more than I do.

Sorry for being negative, and I think the Government have pitched things just right so far, but my experience of past dealings with government agencies leads me to think it will be a huge cock up.

 

5 minutes ago, BS2 Red said:

No age group has a monopoly on stupidity/selfishness.

My grandmother is still adamant that she’ll go out whenever she wants. My mum and my uncle are trying to make her listen, but they’ve got no chance.

Yesterday I had to go out for milk. I saw a large group of teenagers playing basketball together.

guess they were playing zone defence to keep their distance rather than man-to-man 👀

People just don’t listen.

 

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23 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

Anyone else had this text this morning?

 

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Be careful with that, as there are a lot of scammers about. But if you have a GOV.UK gateway account you it may be legit but I have not received anything like this. 

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2 hours ago, MarcusX said:

Surely it’s quite clear by now this ISNT advisory, its government orders. You play with your own health by all means but if someone at risk doesn’t care about catching it but then ends up in hospital is taking a bed from someone else. Why take the risk ffs

I’m fairly sure she knew it wasn’t real

I’m grateful for this, still not sure I should be travelling across the country next Wednesday for a funeral, but I missed my last chance to see my Nan due to this virus, not sure I could miss the funeral.

That’s not what Michael Gove has just said, this isn’t clear from the government.

Where are the Sun getting this? They’ve made this up as far as I can see.

Promising news but can’t find that original tweet now, only one I found says a proposal.

It IS advisory whatever you might think, at the moment there is no law which states if you are an at risk patient you are forbidden to leave your house read it again.

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12 minutes ago, RedorDead BCFC said:

Be careful with that, as there are a lot of scammers about. But if you have a GOV.UK gateway account you it may be legit but I have not received anything like this. 

All mobile operators will be sending this message out today at some point.
 

You’re absolutely right about being extremely careful of logging into anything from a link in a text message. The panic in people is something scammers are preying on.

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27 minutes ago, The Gasbuster said:

Yep.

Strange timing. Should have been sent at 6.00 am this morning IMO. 

Some of them were.  

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12 minutes ago, Redinthehead said:

All mobile operators will be sending this message out today at some point.
 

You’re absolutely right about being extremely careful of logging into anything from a link in a text message. The panic in people is something scammers are preying on.

Yep just got mine now. 

 

Ignore what the fat man said earlier, I was talking out my arse 

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1 hour ago, oldstandrobin said:

Just had confirmation that it isn't the young that won't heed advice. Although retired I have a business selling pre-owned Mobility Scooters. Just had an elderly customer on the phone with a problem with his. Wanted to bring it up to me to look at. Told him couldn't see him due to the new rules. He hasn't been watching the TV and got quite irate about it !! Said the Golf Club was open yesterday but as I told him, that was yesterday. Then said he must get it sorted as he wants to get out and about and play golf. Incredible

Do you, for a bit of a laugh, offer a lifetime guarantee on your work to customers who look really frail?

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I see Spain reporting just 76 new infections today*. That could mean a flattening of the curve for them, after a period of strict lockdown.

 

 

*Unless I've misunderstood the data. 

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22 hours ago, Super said:

Hopefully some slightly positive news from Germany

The head of Germany's public health institute has said there are signs the exponential upwards curve in new coronavirus infections in the country is flattening off for the first time.

Lothar Wieler, head of the Robert Koch Institute added it was a result of social distancing measures.

He said: "We are seeing signs that the exponential growth curve is flattening off slightly.

"But I will only be able to confirm this trend definitively on Wednesday."

He added he was optimistic that measures taken so far in Germany, including school closures, instructions on hand-washing and strict warnings against public gatherings, were already having an effect.

Trouble with Germany is they aren’t reporting all cases.

Was discussed on news last night, if someone dies in hospital we do a post-mortem and if they have Covid 19 we report it in the figures.

Germany are not reporting how people died/doing post mortem so there figures are very low due to it. 
 

It appears different counties are reporting differently so numbers are everywhere.

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19 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

Do you, for a bit of a laugh, offer a lifetime guarantee on your work to customers who look really frail?

Rob, you are obviously a marketing man, will look into it at a later date 🤥

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23 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

Do you, for a bit of a laugh, offer a lifetime guarantee on your work to customers who look really frail?

 

4 minutes ago, oldstandrobin said:

Rob, you are obviously a marketing man, will look into it at a later date 🤥

Only if they can provide both parents as counter-signatories.

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24 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

Do you, for a bit of a laugh, offer a lifetime guarantee on your work to customers who look really frail?

That;s made me laugh when I know it really shouldn't! 

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2 minutes ago, CyderInACan said:

That;s made me laugh when I know it really shouldn't! 

Tut Tut Reg, get back to your work 😁

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2 minutes ago, CyderInACan said:

That;s made me laugh when I know it really shouldn't! 

Well, there is no football to bet on, what better than the inaugural pensioner grand prix!

One lap of the precinct, a blue rinse pit stop and first to collect their pension is the victor.

Title winner gets a hip replacement.

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1 hour ago, Northern Red said:

Where I live, Merseyrail have cut the number of trains per hour on each line from 4 to 2, however they've doubled train lengths from 3 carriages to 6 by joining units together so there's no loss of seats. 

I know not every operator can do that, especially on the Tube, but people having to cram on to fewer services defeats the object completely.

Yes some platforms are too short as it is eg Baker Street. 
 

plus on another note media offices will be open, itv, bbc, sky etc. Sky is in Osterley near Brentford, it’s a huge campus with 1000s of employee’s, including IT people, journalists, back room staff, designers, tv people, cleaners, admin etc. It’s miles away from most of their employees and those can’t all work from home

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2 minutes ago, Super said:

Just seen pics of burnt out iceland delivery vans in southmead

 

Is it definitely Southmead, Mr S? I've seen a similar picture, but the caption said it was somewhere up north.

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2 minutes ago, Super said:

Just seen pics of burnt out iceland delivery vans in southmead

Yeah! but that’s not unusual.......and I was brought up there.

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Comes as no surprise that 'Spoons are hiding behind 'details' and couldn't care less about their staff.

Their owner has some very peculiar traits - for example, why would the majority share holder of a publicly list company be so vocal about a referendum that was clearly splitting the nation? Have a view by all means, but keep it to yourself. For every new customer he attracts he will likely lost one, as well as spooking investors.

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5 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

Is it definitely Southmead, Mr S? I've seen a similar picture, but the caption said it was somewhere up north.

It was on the radio bristol fb page mate def says Southmead

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11 hours ago, Robin-hugh-blind said:

I would be more than happy to stay at home. And I encourage any one that can to do so. 

However, if you were looking at not paying bills, mortgage or even having enough money to buy vital supplies im sure you would reluctantly go to work. 

The world is bigger than just you and your presentations. Other people are suffering tonight, perhaps think about others and the position there in ?

Hey this sounds like a fun game.

You carry on as normal , wandering round infecting people, and then you can pass them over to me to decide which ones live and which ones die.

Maybe at some point I could give you a list, let you chose, fancy that?

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3 minutes ago, Maesknoll Red said:

WTF is wrong with these people... 

Its not the first time that has happened in Southmead - probably the same kids who got away with it last time.

It'll probably be known who did it and this time may well be enough to give police the names.

Hope so anyway.

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1 hour ago, Red-Robbo said:

I see Spain reporting just 76 new infections today*. That could mean a flattening of the curve for them, after a period of strict lockdown.

 

 

*Unless I've misunderstood the data. 

Do Spain like us do theirs per region? As they have Catalonia, islands and mainland. There was a program last night I have not seen it so can't confirm its true, but in Madrid 1 - 10 health workers have it and they are lowering the age of patients to get critical care.  

 

On ours Wales is always first then followed by Scotland and England is last. I only noticed as I looked on the website yesterday and thought we was low so things are looking up then Wales anounced their figures which matched the websites. 

 

Edit just noticed this so some are updating throughout the day 

 

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3 hours ago, formerly known as ivan said:

Partly true, but there are other forms of transport available in London. Plus I would guess, and only a guess, that not everyone on there has to be on that tube. It’s a London mentality, no one wants to back down as they believe they are the most important.

London cabbies are struggling at the moment so use them!

Partly true, but there are other forms of transport available in London. Plus I would guess, and only a guess, that not everyone on there has to be on that tube. It’s a London mentality, no one wants to back down as they believe they are the most important.

London cabbies are struggling at the moment so use them!

These workers may well be low paid. Public transport is cheaper I'm sure.

These key workers (funny how these are classed as 'key workers' now but not paid much in general) cannot afford to take fans to work and live- I don't think there's much jolly travel ongoing here, much read below for fun as @exAtyeoMax said.

Until the Government package is fully up and running, people who cannot work from home who have little choice will continue to do so. Thinking any zero hours. Then you have key workers who need to work irrespective.

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2 minutes ago, RedorDead BCFC said:

Do Spain like us do theirs per region? As they have Catalonia, islands and mainland. There was a program last night I have not seen it so can't confirm its true, but in Madrid 1 - 10 health workers have it and they are lowering the age of patients to get critical care.  

 

On ours Wales is always first then followed by Scotland and England is last. I only noticed as I looked on the website yesterday and thought we was low so things are looking up then Wales anounced their figures which matched the websites. 

That did occur to me. If it's countrywide, that's a hell of a turnaround from the 1000+ per day they were getting a week ago.

Unfortunately, it appears reports of Germany's infection curve flattening out may be wishful thinking judging by its last figures.

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2 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

That did occur to me. If it's countrywide, that's a hell of a turnaround from the 1000+ per day they were getting a week ago.

Unfortunately, it appears reports of Germany's infection curve flattening out may be wishful thinking judging by its last figures.

Just edited my comment, I noticed something at the bottom stating the below. 

The "New" columns for China display the previous day changes (as China reports after the day is over). For all other countries, the "New" columns display the changes for the current day while still in progress.

 

 

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