Shaun Taylor Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Super said: Dont go celebrating the title too early..... I won't but some fools would be except there's no puns open! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, Super said: Dont go celebrating the title too early..... They wouldnt do that, dont be daft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 They've voted for no relegation to the National League - but this is subject to EFL approval which I hope they don't get. No relegation - then no promotion I say. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 14 minutes ago, Sleepy1968 said: They've voted for no relegation to the National League - but this is subject to EFL approval which I hope they don't get. No relegation - then no promotion I say. Does that mean there will be no promotion from the National league? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted May 15, 2020 Admin Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 47 minutes ago, miketh2nd said: Shall be interesting if the FA agree with all of this.. on one hand would be harsh to relegate Stevenage but for league 2 to have play offs and then all of leagues below not to seems somewhat quite cruel? @miketh2nd ???? Read the statement again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forbespm Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Shaun Taylor said: I won't but some fools would be except there's no puns open! No pubs intented Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldlandReddies Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Davefevs said: I’m pretty much resigned to City missing out if games don’t restart, because none of the PPG methods work for us, however.... ....Peter Loehman, a Danish, Sheffield Wed fan, who I follow on Twitter has come up with another method. His method is less about finishing the remaining 100+ games and buying some time to complete a new form of playoffs. Ultimately, he proposes more of an elimination type playoff, where we get a one off chance away to Forest. if we win that we’d go into a 2 legged play off. It basically gives clubs down to 8th (in Peter’s model we fall below Millwall based on the strength of our remaining fixtures) a chance. Ditto for the clubs in relegation battle. It basically requires 14 matches to be played, instead of the 113. Don't worry yourself over it as the season will be completed now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 3 hours ago, phantom said: Don't forget there is an extra place to fill with Bury going under One less team relegated from league one than normal, so leaves 1 spot for national league to be promoted? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 Womens team surviving then? Talk of WSL being done on PPG and Liverpool would finish bottom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Taylor Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 1 hour ago, forbespm said: No pubs intented Ipad playing up again 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted May 16, 2020 Admin Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 I don't dislike Swindon. They made themselves look a bunch of arses a few seasons back and karma sorted that night out. Hopefully another team to help send the gash down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, phantom said: I don't dislike Swindon. They made themselves look a bunch of arses a few seasons back and karma sorted that night out. Hopefully another team to help send the gash down How do they compare crowd-wise with the blue few? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 18 hours ago, mozo said: Whichever basement team wins League 2 this season, knows in their hearts it doesn't really count. Especially as they weren’t even top of the league! Also didn’t quote it but thanks for the reply, you made good points about responsibility of testing that I hadn’t considered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 On Football centre show Matt Upson becomes the latest person to say if you can't play out the season you can't really relegate clubs on ppg, but would still allow promotions. Call me cynical but sky either appear to be getting people to say clubs shouldn't be relegated or they're finding people with that viewpoint to be on their shows. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Taylor Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 1 hour ago, phantom said: I don't dislike Swindon. They made themselves look a bunch of arses a few seasons back and karma sorted that night out. Hopefully another team to help send the gash down Fair point you make and as previously stated many of us didn't over celebrate that win and were just happy to beat a local rival who a lot of us are envious of how your club is run and conducts itself and we're do our best to get the better of your rivals who's fortunes certainly look like their changing and a million miles apart from you guys 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 1 hour ago, New Dazzler said: Good pick as Bristol is twinned with Hannover. I was going to go for Dynamo Dresden, as it is the only German city I have visited. The good news is that they were due to play each other tomorrow, the bad news is that the game has been postponed as 2 of the Dresden team have tested positive for Covid 19! And they think it's safe and proper to be restarting already..?! Seems ridiculous to me, when they could wait for at least a few more weeks. However much we all want football back, why rush it, if it's not safe yet.. ?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: And they think it's safe and proper to be restarting already..?! Seems ridiculous to me, when they could wait for at least a few more weeks. However much we all want football back, why rush it, if it's not safe yet.. ?! There may well never be a vaccine so define "safe". Anyway, that is for another thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 14 minutes ago, Eddie Hitler said: There may well never be a vaccine so define "safe". Anyway, that is for another thread. I wouldn't class a point at which games are postponed because players are testing positive, as being a safe time to re-start, personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 16 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: I wouldn't class a point at which games are postponed because players are testing positive, as being a safe time to re-start, personally. We don't take any special measures in a bad year for flu which kills 60,000 so I don't see how this is any different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lkntrkljbflrbh3eljth Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Eddie Hitler said: We don't take any special measures in a bad year for flu which kills 60,000 so I don't see how this is any different. We do take special measures for flu every year though including free vaccinations for all vulnerable people. And flu hasn't killed 60,000 people in the UK in a year for a long time. In fact it's not killed more than 30,000 people in a season since the late 1960s. Regardless, surely the long lockdown we're still in lets you see that this is slightly different from "a bad year for flu"? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 17 minutes ago, LegalEagle said: We do take special measures for flu every year though including free vaccinations for all vulnerable people. And flu hasn't killed 60,000 people in the UK in a year for a long time. In fact it's not killed more than 30,000 people in a season since the late 1960s. Regardless, surely the long lockdown we're still in lets you see that this is slightly different from "a bad year for flu"? 60,000 1976 and 50,000 five times since then, latest 2017/18. Apart from the first four weeks to allow the NHS to gear up in case it was really bad, and it is now blatantly obvious that it isn't and has been so for several weeks to anyone who actually looks at the numbers, the governmental response has been clearly wrong. You don't infer the seriousness of a problem from the response to the problem when you are able look at the problem itself. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted May 17, 2020 Admin Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 Interesting interview with Dale Vince on Talksport he said the announcement that came out about league two is incorrect. Teams were not given the same information on their teleconference that were in the press release. He said the vote was also not unanimous to end the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 19 hours ago, Eddie Hitler said: We don't take any special measures in a bad year for flu which kills 60,000 so I don't see how this is any different. Yes we do. We vaccinate vulnerable people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talk Of The Town Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: Yes we do. We vaccinate vulnerable people. And healthcare workers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Maesknoll Red Posted May 17, 2020 Admin Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 2 hours ago, phantom said: Interesting interview with Dale Vince on Talksport he said the announcement that came out about league two is incorrect. Teams were not given the same information on their teleconference that were in the press release. He said the vote was also not unanimous to end the season He was also on R5 Friday evening saying the same thing and he questioned/disputed some of the figures quoted by other clubs (costs of playing v losses by not playing). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 11 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: Yes we do. We vaccinate vulnerable people. And we are isolating vulnerable people which has the same effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, Bobby Bollax said: And healthcare workers The death rate amongst NHS workers aged 18 - 65 is no different to the whole population aged 18 - 65. The higher death rate is in the retired NHS workers who returned to work to help and they should never have been asked to do this because they were always going to be far more vulnerable. I think that's a scandal along with the NHS infecting care homes by sending out recovered patients to them before confirming that they were clear of the virus. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, Eddie Hitler said: The death rate amongst NHS workers aged 18 - 65 is no different to the whole population aged 18 - 65. The higher death rate is in the retired NHS workers who returned to work to help and they should never have been asked to do this because they were always going to be far more vulnerable. I think that's a scandal along with the NHS infecting care homes by sending out recovered patients to them before confirming that they were clear of the virus. Not arguing your point as I haven’t looked at age related figures, but on a separate issue in the case of people carrying Covid: 0.27% of people on average are carrying the virus at any one point (see yellow bubble below), broken down into 0.22% of people in households 1.37% of people in care jobs Basically you’re 6 times as likely to be carrying the virus if you’re in a care role. That may sound obvious, e.g. you’re more at risk, but then add in you’re supposed to have PPE, processes to extra clean, vigilant etc, it doesn’t look great. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talk Of The Town Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Eddie Hitler said: The death rate amongst NHS workers aged 18 - 65 is no different to the whole population aged 18 - 65. The higher death rate is in the retired NHS workers who returned to work to help and they should never have been asked to do this because they were always going to be far more vulnerable. I think that's a scandal along with the NHS infecting care homes by sending out recovered patients to them before confirming that they were clear of the virus. Was talking about the flu vaccine. Not Covid-19 vulnerable people and health care workers get them. Edited May 17, 2020 by Bobby Bollax Grammar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Maesknoll Red said: He was also on R5 Friday evening saying the same thing and he questioned/disputed some of the figures quoted by other clubs (costs of playing v losses by not playing). Surely stuff like losses through not playing is dictated by your season ticket price/how many season ticket holders you have/how many had pre-purchased tickets already and how much you'd have to repay and is therefore different for everyone? Hard to dispute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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