big p Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 Just now, BS2 Red said: To show who has been vaccinated. So how did this benefit Piers Morgan .....Please think.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 1 minute ago, big p said: So what's the point of the covid passport? Because those with one are less likely to infect those around them, surely you can see the good in that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, Riaz said: If he decided, for any reason. to not have it, he'd not be able to go. THATS the issue. Its sneaky and its the government taking away our freedoms Nope that’s your decision and your issue. End of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 The Government wants to "Protect us" We've been here before with this game of fear. We had over a million protesting then too. And the government were lying. Shock! In 2003. Tony Blair told the world - Saddam can attack us within 45 minutes. We have to invade Iraq to protect us at home. Millions of lives were lost. All on a LIE. The truth was Saddam was UNABLE to attack us after years of sanctions. He did not have the capability to launch any sort of attack on us and the Intelligence Services were telling Tony Blair exactly that. But that didnt stop him trying to scare us, so they could do what they wanted to do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big p Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 1 minute ago, pillred said: Because those with one are less likely to infect those around them, surely you can see the good in that. Yes, but this makes the Covid Passport useless.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, big p said: Are you aware of all the other laws of which the government is trying to pass. None of them made the news by the way... Again - such as? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS2 Red Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 Just now, big p said: So how did this benefit Piers Morgan .....Please think.. He didn't get as seriously ill as he would have without the vaccine. He also was much less likely to pass it onto anybody else once he had it. 3 minutes ago, big p said: Are you aware of all the other laws of which the government is trying to pass. None of them made the news by the way... I am not a fan of this government (that's an understatement!), but public health is different to other things they are and are not doing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big p Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 Just now, big p said: Yes, but this makes the Covid Passport useless.. So why is the Government pushing the passport so hard? Control? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 1 minute ago, big p said: Yes, but this makes the Covid Passport useless.. How? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, Riaz said: Well thats alright then!! I better do something i dont want too!! ******* hell You don’t have to. It’s your choice. How does that not compute with you?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 1 minute ago, BS2 Red said: He didn't get as seriously ill as he would have without the vaccine. He also was much less likely to pass it onto anybody else once he had it. Most people dont get seriously ill anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS2 Red Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, Riaz said: Well thats alright then!! I better do something i dont want too!! ******* hell Nobody is making you do anything you don't want to. But as there are lots of us that don't want unvaccinated people spreading the disease around us, you do not get to infringe on our rights by attending sporting events and nightclubs. You have a choice whether to have it. But without rules? Nobody else would have the choice of anti-vaxxers sitting next to us. Just now, Riaz said: Most people dont get seriously ill anyway So? More people get seriously ill from the disease than from the vaccine. You're undermining your own argument. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 Just now, big p said: So why is the Government pushing the passport so hard? Control? Control of what? Trying to control the virus and how many people it makes seriously ill and how many it kills and impacts upon NHS resources? Guessing so. Not the ‘control’ you’re referring to though that’s for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 Just now, BS2 Red said: Nobody is making you do anything you don't want to. But as there are lots of us that don't want unvaccinated people spreading the disease around us, you do not get to infringe on our rights by attending sporting events and nightclubs. You have a choice whether to have it. But without rules? Nobody else would have the choice of anti-vaxxers sitting next to us. Its blackmail and you know it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS2 Red Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 Just now, Riaz said: Its blackmail and you know it. It's not blackmail. It's not even close to being blackmail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverRed Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 1 minute ago, BS2 Red said: Nobody is making you do anything you don't want to. But as there are lots of us that don't want unvaccinated people spreading the disease around us, you do not get to infringe on our rights by attending sporting events and nightclubs. You have a choice whether to have it. But without rules? Nobody else would have the choice of anti-vaxxers sitting next to us. So? More people get seriously ill from the disease than from the vaccine. You're undermining your own argument. How do you feel about vaccinated people spreading the disease around you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Riaz said: Most people dont get seriously ill anyway But a lot less people who have had the vaccine get very ill compared to those that have not had it, how can you not see that? the facts are there for all to see hospital admissions with a similar number of cases are down 90% I mean come on. Edited July 26, 2021 by pillred Add comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, 2015 said: It very much seems like most of the World leaders are all on the same page currently, and no one powerful enough who is willing to go against what's being said. Exactly. You'd think some world leaders would speak out if it was a Conspiracy wouldn't you. Same as Doctors, other medical experts etc. Almost as if it's not a conspiracy.... Edited July 26, 2021 by Selred 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS2 Red Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 Just now, RiverRed said: How do you feel about vaccinated people spreading the disease around you? I feel better about those people as they are far less likely to spread it. Plus they made an effort to protect others, unlike the selfish anti-vaxxers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverRed Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 Just now, BS2 Red said: I feel better about those people as they are far less likely to spread it. Plus they made an effort to protect others, unlike the selfish anti-vaxxers. Presumably, you're aware that some people can't take the vaccine for medical reasons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big p Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, lenred said: Control of what? Trying to control the virus and how many people it makes seriously ill and how many it kills and impacts upon NHS resources? Guessing so. Not the ‘control’ you’re referring to though that’s for sure. I give up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2015 Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 1 minute ago, big p said: I give up. Don't blame you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BasSavage88 Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 Just now, RiverRed said: Presumably, you're aware that some people can't take the vaccine for medical reasons? Thats the exact ******* argument, which is why everyone else needs to. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 “Do you ask me what you should regard as especially to be avoided? I say, crowds; for as yet you cannot trust yourself to them with safety… To consort with the crowd is harmful; there is no person who does not make some vice attractive to us, or stamp it upon us, or taint us unconsciously therewith. Certainly, the greater the mob with which we mingle, the greater the danger… Much harm is done by a single case of indulgence or greed; the familiar friend, if he be luxurious, weakens and softens us imperceptibly; the neighbor, if he be rich, rouses our covetousness; the companion, if he be slanderous, rubs off some of his rust upon us, even though we be spotless and sincere. What then do you think the effect will be on character, when the world at large assaults it! You must either imitate or loathe the world.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, big p said: I give up. Tell me then!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big p Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Selred said: Exactly. You'd think some world leaders would speak out if it was a Conspiracy wouldn't you. Same as Doctors, other medical experts etc. Almost as if it's not a 9 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: How? Jeeze, What's the point of covid passport? To make sure only vaccinated people enter crowded areas to help the prevention of spread... But people are still catching it? Because vaccines don't stop the spread. So what's the point of covid passports? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big p Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, lenred said: Tell me then!! They want to track everyone! And given the chance it will turn into the social credit system. Look it up. Edited July 26, 2021 by big p 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS2 Red Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, RiverRed said: Presumably, you're aware that some people can't take the vaccine for medical reasons? Did my post give the impression that I think medically exempt people are the same as the selfish anti-vaxxers? Those that are medically exempt are clearly not selfish. They are also the same people that will be trapped at home while the selfish anti-vaxxers make it dangerous for those with medical conditions to go out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS2 Red Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, big p said: Jeeze, What's the point of covid passport? To make sure only vaccinated people enter crowded areas to help the prevention of spread... But people are still catching it? Because vaccines don't stop the spread. So what's the point of covid passports? There's one big massive flaw with your argument. The vaccines do help reduce the spread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, big p said: Jeeze, What's the point of covid passport? To make sure only vaccinated people enter crowded areas to help the prevention of spread... But people are still catching it? Because vaccines don't stop the spread. So what's the point of covid passports? They reduce the spread, not stop it completely. Not hard to understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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