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The Coronavirus and its impact on sport/Fans Return (Merged)


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9 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said:

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London this morning. Speechless 

People have to go to work, there’s many hospitals, police stations, pharmacies, vital industries in London. I don’t expect they’re doing it for a laugh. The frequency of trains has been reduced dramatically, there will be an increase of people on each train even though the actual numbers of people have fallen

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5 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

People have to go to work, there’s many hospitals, police stations, pharmacies, vital industries in London. I don’t expect they’re doing it for a laugh. The frequency of trains has been reduced dramatically, there will be an increase of people on each train even though the actual numbers of people have fallen

Don’t think many are blaming the people themselves 

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A nation wakes up and wonders.... “am I meant to be going to work or not?”

No doubt there’s further announcements tonight, giving headlines but no details, and the details for last nights announcement will be released at some obscure time in the middle of the night. It’s basically the opposite of good communication.

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7 hours ago, Robin-hugh-blind said:

Good night rich boy 

You have had a lot to say over night, alas you didn't really say anything bar Me me me me me me what about me!

**** me you're a whiny little ***, hardship because you were not put first, you probably don't have a clue what real hardship is, there are people out there doing their best to keep people alive whilst risking their own lives and whilst having to spend time away from their own families.

There are also people working so selfish muppets  like you can get served their shopping and doing that while on low wages, no one is going to starve, no one is going to be evicted have their electricity or gas cut off, if you can't get food because you have no money their are people out there working to supply those that are struggling via food banks.

Many people are alone and scared, many have no one, but you know what,  we get on with it, we pull our purse strings in, cut back on our food intake and waste nothing and we isolate,  and you whine about losing some money.

Then to top it all you hope somone sneezes on someones dinner, really! 

About time you grew up.

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19 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

People have to go to work, there’s many hospitals, police stations, pharmacies, vital industries in London. I don’t expect they’re doing it for a laugh. The frequency of trains has been reduced dramatically, there will be an increase of people on each train even though the actual numbers of people have fallen

Partly true, but there are other forms of transport available in London. Plus I would guess, and only a guess, that not everyone on there has to be on that tube. It’s a London mentality, no one wants to back down as they believe they are the most important.

London cabbies are struggling at the moment so use them!

19 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

People have to go to work, there’s many hospitals, police stations, pharmacies, vital industries in London. I don’t expect they’re doing it for a laugh. The frequency of trains has been reduced dramatically, there will be an increase of people on each train even though the actual numbers of people have fallen

Partly true, but there are other forms of transport available in London. Plus I would guess, and only a guess, that not everyone on there has to be on that tube. It’s a London mentality, no one wants to back down as they believe they are the most important.

London cabbies are struggling at the moment so use them!

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1 minute ago, formerly known as ivan said:

Partly true, but there are other forms of transport available in London. Plus I would guess, and only a guess, that not everyone on there has to be on that tube. It’s a London mentality, no one wants to back down as they believe they are the most important.

London cabbies are struggling at the moment so use them!

Yes but it also depends where you have to get to. Not everyone can afford a taxi at £50 a day across London.
I can’t seriously imagine people would put their life in peril because of arrogance. There’s just a lot of businesses in and around London. There may be people who haven’t had it confirmed to work at home yet 

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3 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

Yes but it also depends where you have to get to. Not everyone can afford a taxi at £50 a day across London.
I can’t seriously imagine people would put their life in peril because of arrogance. There’s just a lot of businesses in and around London. There may be people who haven’t had it confirmed to work at home yet 

Granted. But surely instead of cutting tube services they should be putting more on so people can keep their distance. Not all cram into trains like that . London is in big trouble 

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3 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said:

Granted. But surely instead of cutting tube services they should be putting more on so people can keep their distance. Not all cram into trains like that . London is in big trouble 

Yes, reducing the frequency wasn’t a good idea, they used to be every two minutes

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Where I live, Merseyrail have cut the number of trains per hour on each line from 4 to 2, however they've doubled train lengths from 3 carriages to 6 by joining units together so there's no loss of seats. 

I know not every operator can do that, especially on the Tube, but people having to cram on to fewer services defeats the object completely.

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1 hour ago, paul_fox said:

Very unclear. Will be a total lockdown by Friday 

Won't happen now, they had one chance of this and the general public are confused at the moment. Once they say LOCK DOWN people will say you changed the rules last time so I am not listening. 

We was warned by other countries that people will only listen once and IMO (not any one elses) this will backfire. 

I'm in heavy goods construction and can tell you that, not if any has cancelled their deliveries today.  

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Just had confirmation that it isn't the young that won't heed advice. Although retired I have a business selling pre-owned Mobility Scooters. Just had an elderly customer on the phone with a problem with his. Wanted to bring it up to me to look at. Told him couldn't see him due to the new rules. He hasn't been watching the TV and got quite irate about it !! Said the Golf Club was open yesterday but as I told him, that was yesterday. Then said he must get it sorted as he wants to get out and about and play golf. Incredible

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11 hours ago, RedRock said:

One of many issues, that we’ve all got to untangle, sick, dependent parents et al but anyone know of recommendations for dealing with shared access children? 

Would love to say that my partner’s daughter could sort it amicably with her ex but I don’t think that’s going to happen! Assume they’ve got to go to one side or the other for a period. Makes sense. ...but common sense goes out the window between warring factions ..even as I say if this is potentially a matter of life and death! 

Partner’s daughter was going to complete on her new house purchase next week ...don’t think it’s going to happen! Shite timing. 

 

 

Don’t know if this has been mentioned, but the government has confirmed that such children CAN visit each parent. On BBC live updates at 9.06, and Michael Gove on Twitter. Hope your partner’s daughter can sort this out amicably for the sake of everyone involved.

 

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30 minutes ago, oldstandrobin said:

Just had confirmation that it isn't the young that won't heed advice. Although retired I have a business selling pre-owned Mobility Scooters. Just had an elderly customer on the phone with a problem with his. Wanted to bring it up to me to look at. Told him couldn't see him due to the new rules. He hasn't been watching the TV and got quite irate about it !! Said the Golf Club was open yesterday but as I told him, that was yesterday. Then said he must get it sorted as he wants to get out and about and play golf. Incredible

On another forum a guy who is retired has said he's off out to do non essential voluntary work - totalling breaking the rules, he has been advised, cajoled and people have been down right blunt with him and he still thinks he should go because the treasurer of the club told him to... his wife is in poor health.  Some people are either so thick or have so little comprehension of what is going on, I despair.  

6 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

Anyone else had this text this morning?

 

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Yes.

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39 minutes ago, oldstandrobin said:

Just had confirmation that it isn't the young that won't heed advice. Although retired I have a business selling pre-owned Mobility Scooters. Just had an elderly customer on the phone with a problem with his. Wanted to bring it up to me to look at. Told him couldn't see him due to the new rules. He hasn't been watching the TV and got quite irate about it !! Said the Golf Club was open yesterday but as I told him, that was yesterday. Then said he must get it sorted as he wants to get out and about and play golf. Incredible

No age group has a monopoly on stupidity/selfishness.

My grandmother is still adamant that she’ll go out whenever she wants. My mum and my uncle are trying to make her listen, but they’ve got no chance.

Yesterday I had to go out for milk. I saw a large group of teenagers playing basketball together.

People just don’t listen.

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9 hours ago, bcfc01 said:

Indeed.

The devil will be in the detail and in the administration of it. 

Unfortunately, I have absolutely no faith that any of the schemes being put in place will be easy to obtain.

Apparently the "business loans" which were launched with a fanfare last week aren't necessarily business loans as banks are asking for personal guarantees - may as well be a personal loan secured on your own home. Not that I qualify for that anyway but it is a signal for how things are.

interesting because I thought government were securing 80% of the amount???

I'm waiting to see the detail for the business rate relief grants for which I qualify - I'm not holding my breath that they will be grants and, even if they are, I'm certain the bureaucracy will be arduous as local government have been tasked with administering it and they couldn't organise a straightforward piss up in a brewery. 

The self employed/soul trader/freelancer payments should be straightforward as the HMRC have all the returns - but I bet they will take a closer interest in peoples accounts if they apply for these payments. I don't care about that, all above board, but I'm absolutely positive that it will be a drawn out hassle and could lead to people being investigated later on.

I think contractors like me with 1 or 2 director limited company set-ups are gonna fall between the gaps.  We aren’t classed as employees in the majority of cases.  I’m not moaning per se, because there are lots of people who need the money more than I do.

Sorry for being negative, and I think the Government have pitched things just right so far, but my experience of past dealings with government agencies leads me to think it will be a huge cock up.

 

5 minutes ago, BS2 Red said:

No age group has a monopoly on stupidity/selfishness.

My grandmother is still adamant that she’ll go out whenever she wants. My mum and my uncle are trying to make her listen, but they’ve got no chance.

Yesterday I had to go out for milk. I saw a large group of teenagers playing basketball together.

guess they were playing zone defence to keep their distance rather than man-to-man 👀

People just don’t listen.

 

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2 hours ago, MarcusX said:

Surely it’s quite clear by now this ISNT advisory, its government orders. You play with your own health by all means but if someone at risk doesn’t care about catching it but then ends up in hospital is taking a bed from someone else. Why take the risk ffs

I’m fairly sure she knew it wasn’t real

I’m grateful for this, still not sure I should be travelling across the country next Wednesday for a funeral, but I missed my last chance to see my Nan due to this virus, not sure I could miss the funeral.

That’s not what Michael Gove has just said, this isn’t clear from the government.

Where are the Sun getting this? They’ve made this up as far as I can see.

Promising news but can’t find that original tweet now, only one I found says a proposal.

It IS advisory whatever you might think, at the moment there is no law which states if you are an at risk patient you are forbidden to leave your house read it again.

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