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I’m guessing the French Rugby bosses are trying their best to get the Six Nations postponed after their defeat to Scotland?

 

They Bizarrely have rescheduled their game with Ireland in Paris until 31st October!! Whilst PSG v Dortmund and the rest of the French top flight carry on with their fixtures albeit behind closed doors.

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10 minutes ago, phantom said:

Guys, I’ve clicked on the link so you don’t have to give the Daily Mail clicks.

The woman is 29 and has had specialised hospital treatment.

Therefore, in the COVID Venn diagram, she fits in the rare middle group - lowest risk, highest treatment. Most people of her age won’t get hospital treatment due to priority

Most of us who are fit and healthy normally will be fine, the point is the risk of carrying and passing onto someone who is in the high risk group. And as more people get it, it’s less likely they can get the medical attention they need

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25 minutes ago, glos old boy said:

This from NHS; from 2014 to 2019 there has been an average of 17,000 seasonal flu related deaths per year...there wasnt to many that made headline news:dunno:

These constant attempts by people to dismiss Coronavirus as “just like flu” are getting tiresome. There are good reasons why the world is reacting very differently.

“While the viruses that cause both COVID-19 and seasonal influenza are transmitted from person-to-person and may cause similar symptoms, the two viruses are very different and do not behave in the same way. ECDC estimates that between 15 000 and 75 000 people die prematurely due to causes associated with seasonal influenza each year in the EU, the UK, Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein. This is approximately 1 in every 1 000 people who are infected. By comparison, the current estimated mortality rate for COVID-19 is 20-30 per 1 000 people.

Despite the relatively low mortality rate for seasonal influenza, many people die from the disease due to the large number of people who contract it each year. The concern about COVID-19 is that, unlike influenza, there is no vaccine and no specific treatment for the disease. It also appears to be as transmissible as influenza if not more so. As it is a new virus, nobody has prior immunity which in theory means that the entire human population is potentially susceptible to COVID-19 infection.“


https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/novel-coronavirus-china/questions-answers

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27 minutes ago, glos old boy said:

This from NHS; from 2014 to 2019 there has been an average of 17,000 seasonal flu related deaths per year...there wasnt to many that made headline news:dunno:

17000 sounds a bit high?
 

That would mean roughly 17,000,000 Brits catch flu every year...that can’t be right?

 

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15 hours ago, AppyDAZE said:

Especially when surely everybody has heard by now that those mask things do NOTHING to protect you. Madness.

That's not true and another indication of how limited public knowledge is. 

Some more facts that you might find useful before spreading more misinformation:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/09/can-a-face-mask-stop-coronavirus-covid-19-facts-checked

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public/when-and-how-to-use-masks

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43 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

Was chatting to two Liverpool fans in the pub last night and managed to convince them that if they cancel the remaining fixtures this season, Man City will be awarded the title as 'existing holders'.

Evidently, my argument was convincing enough to ruin their night out.

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18 hours ago, reddogkev said:

Am I the only person who couldn't give a crap about the virus?  Honestly, people live and die, what's the big deal?

Saw a guy today wearing a face mask at school to collect his kids, almost laughed my socks off!!

Each to their own I guess, but I hope that if you do get it, or cone into contact with someone who does have it, you do the right thing!

As a parent of a vulnerable child, I’m taking advice and precautions.

My Programme Manager returned from Italy (skiing) on Friday, was check going in and out of Italy, and HR advice was to stay at home for 2 days isolating.  He messaged the team on Sunday saying he was taking our concerns seriously and not gonna come in for 2 weeks (we are able to work remotely).  So, with him not being in, i went to the office yesterday.  Then yesterday, he said he was coming in today, so I told him I would work at home today and rest of week.  We need to test our ability to have large scale remote working, so I was helping that anyway.

Today new HR advice is he needs to stay at home for 2 weeks.

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Quick question, which there may well be nobody on Otib qualified to answer.

Wuhan, where it first hit, and Italy, where it first hit in Europe, seem to have far higher mortality rate than anywhere else and there at least two cases - the doctor who died in China after contracting it from a patient said to have a "high viral load" and the first identified patient in Italy, who seem to have got it particularly badly despite not being in the age profile of people who get really hard by it.

So my question is - do illnesses like this lose some of their lethality the more they spread? I.e. so the death rate of the first 100 people is higher than the first 1000 people and that in turn is higher than the first 10000 people and so forth? Or is there another reason why areas and people who contract the disease early seem to be horrifically affected in a way that doesn't (yet) seem to be affecting everywhere else?

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2 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Each to their own I guess, but I hope that if you do get it, or cone into contact with someone who does have it, you do the right thing!

As a parent of a vulnerable child, I’m taking advice and precautions.

My Programme Manager returned from Italy (skiing) on Friday, was check going in and out of Italy, and HR advice was to stay at home for 2 days isolating.  He messaged the team on Sunday saying he was taking our concerns seriously and not gonna come in for 2 weeks (we are able to work remotely).  So, with him not being in, i went to the office yesterday.  Then yesterday, he said he was coming in today, so I told him I would work at home today and rest of week.  We need to test our ability to have large scale remote working, so I was helping that anyway.

Today new HR advice is he needs to stay at home for 2 weeks.

It's a frustrating one. I'm not in work today because I'm at the tail end of a cold and have got a few extra aches and pains and want to be on the safe side. And I know that, when the guidance comes into affect that people with colds have to stay at home and self-isolate for seven days, I will end up having to do that at some point. I'm also reasonably confident on what the symptoms of Coronavirus are and aren't so know full well that I don't have it now and, if the next cold I get is just a cold, I'd be 90% sure on that too. But it just isn't fair on others to take any risks.

Maybe the whole thing is overblown, and maybe we are making a fuss about something that won't be as serious as people fear. But a week or two off work is nothing in the grand scheme of things so there is just no justification for taking the risk of being wrong. 

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18 hours ago, reddogkev said:

Am I the only person who couldn't give a crap about the virus?  Honestly, people live and die, what's the big deal?

Saw a guy today wearing a face mask at school to collect his kids, almost laughed my socks off!!

I’ve got an 11 year old son and I’d like him to have a long and happy life.  If that means taking precautions now to protect him from a potentially dangerous virus then so be it.  I fear that the more people there are who ‘couldn’t give a crap about the virus’, the more chance there is of him being affected by it.  The notion that ‘we’re all going to die anyway’ strikes me as facile.  Yes we are, but how many are happy to die when a few simple precautions could help them to live longer, in some cases very considerably longer?

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37 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said:

Quick question, which there may well be nobody on Otib qualified to answer.

Wuhan, where it first hit, and Italy, where it first hit in Europe, seem to have far higher mortality rate than anywhere else and there at least two cases - the doctor who died in China after contracting it from a patient said to have a "high viral load" and the first identified patient in Italy, who seem to have got it particularly badly despite not being in the age profile of people who get really hard by it.

So my question is - do illnesses like this lose some of their lethality the more they spread? I.e. so the death rate of the first 100 people is higher than the first 1000 people and that in turn is higher than the first 10000 people and so forth? Or is there another reason why areas and people who contract the disease early seem to be horrifically affected in a way that doesn't (yet) seem to be affecting everywhere else?

yes, viruses tend to become less lethal as they mutate and adapt through the population, but not quite as linear as the numbers you describe, that will happen over months and years, rather than days.

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8 minutes ago, HiddenGem7 said:

yes, viruses tend to become less lethal as they mutate and adapt through the population, but not quite as linear as the numbers you describe, that will happen over months and years, rather than days.

Thanks for this. Yeah, I realised I was massively over-simplifying in how I explained it! 

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