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The Coronavirus and its impact on sport/Fans Return (Merged)


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I would imagine the authorities will almost be using the Cheltenham Festival as a test case for sporting events. If there is a significant spike in cases that seem to be related to the event, it might have an effect. 
I think one of the biggest issues from the health authorities point of view is that the incubation period is apparently twice as long a s normal "flu" and that it can be 5 days before you show symptoms. That's 5 days where you can be contagious without realising it yourself.

 

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4 hours ago, poland_exile said:

That's not true and another indication of how limited public knowledge is. 

Some more facts that you might find useful before spreading more misinformation:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/09/can-a-face-mask-stop-coronavirus-covid-19-facts-checked

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public/when-and-how-to-use-masks

Maybe someone should have a word with PHE and WHO ;

Public Health England (PHE) and the World Health Organisation have not recommended people wear gloves or face masks to protect themselves.

Protective items such as face masks and gloves can play a “very important role” in a clinical setting but there is “little widespread evidence” that they are useful for members of the public.

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30 minutes ago, One Team said:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/mar/10/nottingham-forest-and-olympiakos-owner-evangelos-marinakis-reveals-he-has-coronavirus

Article on Forest owner. Met all the squad and fans according to some reports on social media.

 

How did this bloke ever pass the “fit and proper persons” test to be able to take over Forest. 
He’s been widely implicated in match fixing, fraud and even drug trafficking. 
What a guy.  

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7 hours ago, Silvio Dante said:

Guys, I’ve clicked on the link so you don’t have to give the Daily Mail clicks.

The woman is 29 and has had specialised hospital treatment.

Therefore, in the COVID Venn diagram, she fits in the rare middle group - lowest risk, highest treatment. Most people of her age won’t get hospital treatment due to priority

Most of us who are fit and healthy normally will be fine, the point is the risk of carrying and passing onto someone who is in the high risk group. And as more people get it, it’s less likely they can get the medical attention they need

Spot on. Agree that the concern is for the highest risk groups and also ensuring that the NHS can cope by delaying the peak to as far away from Winter as possible (because NHS is under most pressure in Winter). If NHS can cope better that also helps patients who need treatment for something that has nothing to do with coronavirus. So yes most people will have mild symptoms but that’s not the point. If everyone was at high risk then clearly we would be in lockdown far earlier and longer. 

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9 minutes ago, RiverRed said:

"Every bubble's passed it fizzical..."

 

12 minutes ago, bredwood said:

I think I'll be OK as I used to drink loads of this when I was a kid so I'm immune to it:

Qw34GPIBcorona-vintage.jpg

Got me thinking what was that other drinks company that set up in the 70s, and their lorries used to go round the streets selling their stuff?

Not sure they lasted long, but they often had jobs going for young kids as drivers mates. This is (no joking) bugging me..

Help! Who were they or am i imagining this?

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3 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said:

 

Got me thinking what was that other drinks company that set up in the 70s, and their lorries used to go round the streets selling their stuff?

Not sure they lasted long, but they often had jobs going for young kids as drivers mates. This is (no joking) bugging me..

Help! Who were they or am i imagining this?

Alpine! I think it every time Peter Kaye refers to "rola cola" :) 

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2 hours ago, LondonBristolian said:

Quick question, which there may well be nobody on Otib qualified to answer.

Wuhan, where it first hit, and Italy, where it first hit in Europe, seem to have far higher mortality rate than anywhere else and there at least two cases - the doctor who died in China after contracting it from a patient said to have a "high viral load" and the first identified patient in Italy, who seem to have got it particularly badly despite not being in the age profile of people who get really hard by it.

So my question is - do illnesses like this lose some of their lethality the more they spread? I.e. so the death rate of the first 100 people is higher than the first 1000 people and that in turn is higher than the first 10000 people and so forth? Or is there another reason why areas and people who contract the disease early seem to be horrifically affected in a way that doesn't (yet) seem to be affecting everywhere else?

I read a bit about the Spanish flu and why it was so deadly. It’s not in the best interests of the virus to kill its host as it needs to spread further. Because the Spanish flu came from a strain of bird flu originally it hadn’t adapted to human life and therefore was more severe initially. Over time the virus adapts to become less lethal so that it can spread further, so it’s possible your thoughts above are correct.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20181029-why-the-flu-of-1918-was-so-deadly

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16 minutes ago, Robin101 said:

Wonder what it’s like inside the marketing department at Corona Beer right now.

Last I heard they sent quite a serious email about the number of memes etc and basically telling staff they aren’t to engage with or share these memes.

I believe some of their sales have taken a hit especially in China but mostly due to people not going out rather than any issues with the name.

incidentally sales increased in the US by 5% in the 4 weeks up mid February

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10 minutes ago, BanburyRed said:

He's self isolating in Greece apparently as he's already flown home.........presumably infecting everyone on the plane.

Well, if went around slapping them all across the face or spitting on them then maybe he could affect 300 plus people.

The airline will have all passengers details and I dare say they will be tested if necessary.

Similar for the Forest staff I would think.

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6 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

Well, if went around slapping them all across the face or spitting on them then maybe he could affect 300 plus people.

The airline will have all passengers details and I dare say they will be tested if necessary.

Similar for the Forest staff I would think.

It's possible to effect people 4.5 meters away and it can linger in the air for 30 minutes 

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10 minutes ago, Sturny said:

It's possible to effect people 4.5 meters away and it can linger in the air for 30 minutes 

Sound like coronavirus has the same range as the bloke who sits in the same block of the Dolman and must eat nothing but egg sandwiches in the week leading up to a home game.

His* guffs are probably more deadly than coronavirus as well.

*I assume it's a bloke. 

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Some simple Maths lead me to the conclusion that the effect on the health of the UK from Coronavirus will not be anything like as bad as the media suggest.

We can probably all agree that China, where it originated , has been hit the hardest with 80,761 people having contracted the Virus and  3,136 deaths, The virus now seems to be under control in China with only 26 new cases yesterday in a population of 1 billion,400 million people.

  • The % of the Chinese population who  tested positive for Coronavirus is only 0.006 %. This in the worst affected country. 
  • Lets assume  worst case , 1 % of UK  testing positive,. Almost 200 times higher infection rate than  China
  • 1% of the UK 67 million population represents 670,000 people who would get the Virus (currently 321)
  • Assuming current death rate in UK of 1.87%  dying from the virus 
  • Therefore expected deaths in UK from the Coronavirus could be around  12,529. (currently 5)
  • Highly unlikely we would get 4 times as many deaths as China in  a UK  population a fraction of the size
  • Using the Chinese Data ,  the number of UK infections drops to 4,020 and deaths drop to less than 100 !
  • Bear in mind that 616,014 people die every year in the UK,
  • 11,848 UK  deaths every week so you can perhaps see why I believe we are significantly  exaggerating the impact of Coronavirus on the UK . 

The economic damage caused by the panic is in my opinion far more dangerous in the long term to our economy and national prosperity 

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