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The Coronavirus and its impact on sport/Fans Return (Merged)


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There seems to be a total lack of honest statistics regarding Covid. Try asking google for the latest info - this mornings top result was a Gov.uk report from June!

I wonder what level bristol would be if the University and college victims were not counted!

I actually live in a council district which has the lowest Covid count in the uk but has been placed in level 2!

No wonder there is no confidence in the clowns in Westminster!

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7 minutes ago, dave36 said:

There seems to be a total lack of honest statistics regarding Covid. Try asking google for the latest info - this mornings top result was a Gov.uk report from June!

I wonder what level bristol would be if the University and college victims were not counted!

I actually live in a council district which has the lowest Covid count in the uk but has been placed in level 2!

No wonder there is no confidence in the clowns in Westminster!

Still quite bad, Bishopsworth has one of the worst infection rates in the country and infections in the over 60’s has also been dramatically increasing.

The Uni stuff, from a pure numbers standpoint was *insane* (Bristol Uni alone had had more cases than NZ), but they weren’t actually spreading the virus around the city, just contained largely within their halls. 

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1 hour ago, BigTone said:

Shit !!

Our lockdown has been revised with non essential shops opening at the weekend. Bars, restaurants etc will stay closed until 20th Jan 2021 and we now have a 9pm to 7am curfew in place until the same date. Still need to complete an attestation for any trips from home.

Netflix getting a good workout !!

 

 

Stay safe Tone....stay condensed 😉

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When we think of spending some time with close family at Christmas, do we also think about that VE Day back in the summer, when we were having a party with the whole street and doing the conga with strangers? 

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11 minutes ago, Harry said:

When we think of spending some time with close family at Christmas, do we also think about that VE Day back in the summer, when we were having a party with the whole street and doing the conga with strangers? 

That shouldn't have happened as we were socially distancing still then

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6 hours ago, phantom said:

Anyway back to sports.

Assumedly most places are going into tier 2.

For us that would mean 2,000 supporters. 

I wonder how many of those 2,000 will be basic admission and how many the club will use for corporate seats etc?

I would assume the club would make more money from corporate packages, but will be interesting to see how this develops 

Obviously international rugby is slightly different, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a familiar pattern when tickets start going on sale for clubs 

Twickenham will host 2,000 fans for England's final Autumn Nations Cup match on 6 December, with 400 seats gifted to NHS workers, the Rugby Football Union has confirmed.

Six hundred tickets will be given to players' families, local rugby clubs and sponsors, while 1,000 will be sold.

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6 hours ago, CiderCraig said:

So we can't do 'anything' from the 2nd to the 16th of December, but from the 23rd it's absolutely fine to have 12 people in your house, sitting around a table.... explain the 'kin logic in that?!

Imagine a very fast running tap. At present we cannot turn that tap off and at the rate it’s running our health system will simply flood.

The best we can do is periodically regulate the flow of the tap.

Given that we are human, there are some who really cannot see the problem mate if the tap is just left to run. 

Therefor, in an effort to try and keep relative peace amongst 70m people, the government has to let the tap run at different rates, all the while checking the depth of the water.

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29 minutes ago, 054123 said:

Imagine a very fast running tap. At present we cannot turn that tap off and at the rate it’s running our health system will simply flood.

The best we can do is periodically regulate the flow of the tap.

Given that we are human, there are some who really cannot see the problem mate if the tap is just left to run. 

Therefor, in an effort to try and keep relative peace amongst 70m people, the government has to let the tap run at different rates, all the while checking the depth of the water.

An excellent analogy but a tad deep for me !!

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2 hours ago, Sheltons Army said:

Ha ha

Thought it would be 
 

Meanwhile Steve Bruce is ‘totally perplexed ‘ why you can have 2000 fans in a L2 stadium whilst you can only have a similar amount in a Ground the size of Newcastle’s stadium when he reckons they could house 20000 socially distanced

 

 

Just a thought Steve, it might be to do with you’d have 20000 people travelling to and gathering for the game pre match and post match as opposed to 2000


Jesus wept.....

 

 

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On 25/11/2020 at 12:05, winsaw said:

Why that's not supported by any of the different scientific groups following the progress of the virus in this country most have models that show by the end of March it will be down to Almost 0 infections for the whole country so why do you think it would be so high in February

If we’re anywhere near zero infections by March I’ll donate £50 to a charity of your choosing!

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On 25/11/2020 at 16:21, BigTone said:

I doubt that very much TBH. Time will tell but I doubt too many of us really believe the virus will up sticks and retreat over the horizon never to be seen again any time soon unless the Easter Bunny has a cunning plan. Post again in March with the latest developments. £50 says it will still exist but something tells me you won't take up the bet.

 

Damn beat me to it... 🤣

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1 hour ago, phantom said:

Obviously international rugby is slightly different, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a familiar pattern when tickets start going on sale for clubs 

Twickenham will host 2,000 fans for England's final Autumn Nations Cup match on 6 December, with 400 seats gifted to NHS workers, the Rugby Football Union has confirmed.

Six hundred tickets will be given to players' families, local rugby clubs and sponsors, while 1,000 will be sold.

At least our next 3 games in Tier 3 are against teams that are also in Tier 3 , and luckily Millwall is a home game . So City avoid playing at Millwall in front of 2000 of their fans and none of our own. 

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10 minutes ago, Chappers said:

Blaming the public for his total incompetence and many failures

Whilst the Government have been a complete joke and definately incompetent during this, I am equally disapointed at (some) of society who have shown incredible levels of stupidity and selfishness during this pandemic. All too quick to blame anyone else (mainly the Government) whilst themselves ignoring social distancing rules and mixing with whoever they want. Unfortunately we live in a world where it's always someone else's fault and we can no longer take responsibility for our actions. These are the idiots that will cause further restrictions for all.

 

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So I have a genuine question about the football, and I have no idea how it was in Europe.

tier 2 cannot mix indoors with anyone outside their household but upto 6 outside?

What are concourses treated as in football stadiums? Technically inside? Especially at modern stadia such as Wembley, Emirates, City of Manchester as a few I can think of that I’ve been to where you go inside a sealed area.

So are we expecting football to be with your own household only?

This is where I see non league grounds like The Memorial ( ;) ) having less problems as you can turn up and safely always be outside, no problems with the technicalities of that.

Bigger, modern stadia seem problematic to me?

I still think it’s a twisted message that you can have 1000 people at an indoor venue but not go see 1 friend at their house (or for me, parent) - though I also do fully understand the “covid measures” etc and why it’s deemed safer so not looking to continue that debate.

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3 hours ago, MarcusX said:

I still think it’s a twisted message that you can have 1000 people at an indoor venue but not go see 1 friend at their house (or for me, parent) - though I also do fully understand the “covid measures” etc and why it’s deemed safer so not looking to continue that debate.

It all comes down to contact. You're more likely to hug a friend in your house than a stranger at Ashton Gate when you're socially distanced. 

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Just now, Selred said:

It all comes down to contact. You're more likely to hug a friend in your house than a stranger at Ashton Gate when you're socially distanced. 

I know, I do realise that but you’re breathing in the same air. Have you seen that interesting graphic about how it spreads and the differences with ventilation? Thought that was interesting

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6 hours ago, Loco Rojo said:

Whilst the Government have been a complete joke and definately incompetent during this, I am equally disapointed at (some) of society who have shown incredible levels of stupidity and selfishness during this pandemic. All too quick to blame anyone else (mainly the Government) whilst themselves ignoring social distancing rules and mixing with whoever they want. Unfortunately we live in a world where it's always someone else's fault and we can no longer take responsibility for our actions. These are the idiots that will cause further restrictions for all.

 

Might help if the Government, Police dealt with some of their own who transgressed in the appropriate manner.

This is cross party btw, not an attack on any Politicians specifically:

  1. Cummings- Say no more.
  2. Corbyn- Dinner Party. Did he get fined?
  3. Johnson's Dad not wearing a mask and some other transgressions.

Perhaps most gregarious of all, that SNP MP who despite being COVID POSITIVE, took a train down to London! Nothing. Not one bit of this helps. She was suspended but that doesn't feel enough.

Certainly varied people have not acted correctly- in society but also at the middling to higher ends of it.

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9 hours ago, Wade Wilson said:

Still quite bad, Bishopsworth has one of the worst infection rates in the country and infections in the over 60’s has also been dramatically increasing.

The Uni stuff, from a pure numbers standpoint was *insane* (Bristol Uni alone had had more cases than NZ), but they weren’t actually spreading the virus around the city, just contained largely within their halls

I wonder though...? Those are the cases we knew about, let alone the asymptomatic ones- and the asymptomatic ones who may not have been picked up, like anyone who is asymptomatic without realising, could certainly have spread it- maybe in their localities to an extent, see at one stage flareups in Stoke Bishop and some other places- Bishopsworth, Easton and possibly Barton Hill was also mentioned are very much non student areas I think!

Certainly would be interesting to filter them out- though there was a change in datasets, seemed the Government got it wrong which added 15% to our numbers as university town cases were not being accounted for correctly- Times said 15% for Bristol, and maybe it was 1/3 for Newcastle and varied other places that fell from 15% to about 1/3 but on the flipside this gave various parts of the Home Counties a nice little boost! 

As far as I'm concerned though, they brought it to these places, they helped the numbers to rise so it SHOULD be allocated to their home towns.

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5 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Might help if the Government, Police dealt with some of their own who transgressed in the appropriate manner.

This is cross party btw, not an attack on any Politicians specifically:

  1. Cummings- Say no more.
  2. Corbyn- Dinner Party. Did he get fined?
  3. Johnson's Dad not wearing a mask and some other transgressions.

Perhaps most gregarious of all, that SNP MP who despite being COVID POSITIVE, took a train down to London! Nothing. Not one bit of this helps. She was suspended but that doesn't feel enough.

Certainly varied people have not acted correctly- in society but also at the middling to higher ends of it.

On the Corbyn one police said they won’t retrospectively issue fines, so basically do what the hell you like as long as you don’t get caught in the act

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11 hours ago, MarcusX said:

So I have a genuine question about the football, and I have no idea how it was in Europe.

tier 2 cannot mix indoors with anyone outside their household but upto 6 outside?

What are concourses treated as in football stadiums? Technically inside? Especially at modern stadia such as Wembley, Emirates, City of Manchester as a few I can think of that I’ve been to where you go inside a sealed area.

So are we expecting football to be with your own household only?

This is where I see non league grounds like The Memorial ( ;) ) having less problems as you can turn up and safely always be outside, no problems with the technicalities of that.

Bigger, modern stadia seem problematic to me?

I still think it’s a twisted message that you can have 1000 people at an indoor venue but not go see 1 friend at their house (or for me, parent) - though I also do fully understand the “covid measures” etc and why it’s deemed safer so not looking to continue that debate.

There has been a lot said about ventilation. The scientists at the briefing with Boris yesterday mentioned being indoors and having all the windows open (yeah right, people are going to sit around the Xmas table and have a blast of arctic air around Grannie). So I guess all the exit doors would have to be open in the concourses, manned by stewards or barriers I guess to stop people gaining entry if they are ticketless. There are some very big shuttered doors, easily big enough to drive a large vehicle through so there is plenty of scope for ventilation in what is always a cold area anyway. 

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7 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Might help if the Government, Police dealt with some of their own who transgressed in the appropriate manner.

This is cross party btw, not an attack on any Politicians specifically:

  1. Cummings- Say no more.
  2. Corbyn- Dinner Party. Did he get fined?
  3. Johnson's Dad not wearing a mask and some other transgressions.

Perhaps most gregarious of all, that SNP MP who despite being COVID POSITIVE, took a train down to London! Nothing. Not one bit of this helps. She was suspended but that doesn't feel enough.

Certainly varied people have not acted correctly- in society but also at the middling to higher ends of it.

Agree entirely with the general thrust of your argument.

Just on the issue of the SNP MP, she was quite rightly publicly slated by Sturgeon and, as you say, immediately suspended from her party, but of course the greatest damage to public perceptions of people like her is done by her persistent refusal to resign as an elected MP, which she lacked the integrity to do. Not even Sturgeon has the power to remove her. Not sure of the exact process that would be required to do that, but presumably her own, local constituency party would have to deselect her and a by-election held in which the population vote for another candidate.

You’re absolutely right that this sort of behaviour and abuse of privilege has significantly undermined public compliance with Covid regulations.

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2 hours ago, wayne allisons tongues said:

Been told that all  football below if your in Tier 3 will be behind closed doors if league restarts no matter what level your in.

Tier 2 clubs can have crowds but no food or drink can be served.

 

Sorry @wayne allisons tongues I don't understand what you mean in your first line?

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