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The Coronavirus and its impact on sport/Fans Return (Merged)


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As Nuno said the other day, if football is stopped again, it is unlikely to ever come back, at least the way it was. It's one of the only things keeping me sane & not as miserable as i would be during this pandemic (first world problems). Sure, it could be looked at as being selfish, but when you are locked up with only 1 other person working from home since March, it's the only thing that gives me something to look forward to, otherwise it just feels like you are living to work (i know, thankfully i still have job). Think it's right that elite sports are being given the chance to continue & long may it continue (only my opinion of course, i understand why others would feel differently).

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3 minutes ago, Mr Hankey said:

As Nuno said the other day, if football is stopped again, it is unlikely to ever come back, at least the way it was. It's one of the only things keeping me sane & not as miserable as i would be during this pandemic (first world problems). Sure, it could be looked at as being selfish, but when you are locked up with only 1 other person working from home since March, it's the only thing that gives me something to look forward to, otherwise it just feels like you are living to work (i know, thankfully i still have job). Think it's right that elite sports are being given the chance to continue & long may it continue (only my opinion of course, i understand why others would feel differently).

You’re absolutely right. Fortunately I don’t have to work from home, but football brings about a good degree of normality. 

It’s unfortunate then however that it becomes apparent that the anticipation is much more exciting than the actual product itself. 

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1 hour ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said:

Having sport on tv is one of the few things that has given me hope during the lockdown.  Everything should be done to allow elite football to carry on, but I don’t see any players spitting or clearing their noses because they are prima donnas.  It’s what sportsmen do, and it must be very difficult to stop doing it while you’re in the middle of a game, whatever the rules.  A strict testing regime has to be the answer.  However the field of play surely has to be regarded differently from what goes on in wider society. Are you suggesting that players should never go within two metres of each other? That would be interesting...

Watch Wayne Rooney stood on the touchline as a manager. Every 30 seconds or so, he spits on the ground. Its obviously habit, but its disgusting, unnessasary , and in these days, dangerous.

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The other night for the Sheff U v Newcastle game, at the end they showed Wilder shake hands with 3 or 4 of the Newcastle bench then he stood there rubbing his eyes and nose. 

That literally in a 10 second period was an example of how Covid is transmitted.

 

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1 hour ago, The Bard said:

The other night for the Sheff U v Newcastle game, at the end they showed Wilder shake hands with 3 or 4 of the Newcastle bench then he stood there rubbing his eyes and nose. 

That literally in a 10 second period was an example of how Covid is transmitted.

 

I caught that too, was unbelievable watching it unfold

Premier league clubs are to be spoken to individually about what standards are to be expected from them, expect the EFL to follow suit after

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3 hours ago, Lrrr said:

If people are getting tetchy about players hugging each other for a few seconds then they must be outraged that rugby is allowed to be played given scrums, mauls and rucks.

You would have thought it was more transmissable but, how come City have had more cases than Bristol?  Training grounds about 400 metres apart.  Twice as many rugby players playing a game that as you say involves more close contact.

It's not necessarily the game, its behaviours away from it .  The celebration on the pitch is a clear indication that they aren't taking the rules seriously all the time. 

Fair play to Harry Kane last night making a point of not allowing close celebrations in the team.  Proper leadership clearly lacking at most clubs.

 

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3 hours ago, Lrrr said:

If people are getting tetchy about players hugging each other for a few seconds then they must be outraged that rugby is allowed to be played given scrums, mauls and rucks.

The difference is you don't have to hug in football.

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9 hours ago, Bar BS3 said:

I agree that if its not safe then it's best that football gets stopped again for a while. 

I can only assume that the authorities are comfortable with the measures currently in place. 

I should imagine that very few of the outbreaks within clubs are the effect of match day action, amongst tested and negative players, but from other areas of "normal" life, hence the testing on such a regular basis. 

I also think they are acting swiftly and responsibly to cancel games when there are positive results, so it does set the sition apart from the general man on the street, imo.

It doesn’t matter where it’s from though really, if it gets in and spreads to the rest of the team it’s putting more people at risk through what is non-essential socialising.

The players might be ok if they are fit and healthy, the coaches/back room staff and / or their families maybe not so?

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9 hours ago, Bassomylord said:

Not just that but managers have been hugging opposition managers before and after games. 

Touch fists and leave it at that.

Why even touch firsts, it’s unnecessary?

9 hours ago, City1984 said:

I get the general undertone of the op and whilst I agree in principle with some of it I don’t really understand how players on the same team who train together then play together whilst in the same bubble can avoid the close contact with each other. 
 

it’s like saying I should not hug my family and must sit 2meters from them on the sofa. Starts getting pretty difficult if you have 6 kids no?

The spitting and nose clearing is protein buildup and very difficult to avoid during game situations. 
 

As far as not celebrating goals in the moment are concerned , I couldn’t not do that when I have been in some pretty scary sections of opposing supporters. The purest part of the game is your team scoring and that uncontrollable excitement is a feeling we all surely keep going back for. 
 

I will concede though, that if it really can’t continue in a safe enough way then football must take a break again  until such time when it can resume. 
 

 

Asked this earlier and didn’t get an answer, what does a “bubble” mean? They aren’t all in a bubble any more than I am with my work colleagues. We all go home to our families at the end of the day - and they mix with whoever they need to etc . It’s not the same as not hugging your family! You live with them. These players (mostly) aren’t living together.

8 hours ago, Bar BS3 said:

You haven't hugged loved ones for a year to keep them and yourself safe. 

People who returned negative test results (pre game and twice a week) hugging each other in the emotion of sport is entirely different, IMHO. 

I have no problem whatsoever in players celebrating a goal. They observe different regulations to me, so for them it's safe to do so - whether I've been able to hug my mum or sister for the best part of a year is irrelevant to me.. I'm not tested regularly and it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make to keep them safe. 

I'd far rather there was emotion on display in the game, as long as its safely regulated. 

They haven’t been testing twice weekly in the EFL, premier league might have.

Tbh though I agree, amongst everything else they are doing, the goal celebration doesn’t make much difference. Half hour in the changing rooms before the game would probably be worse for transmission. That said the celebrations have become more normal as it’s gone on, when the game first came back teams made a point of not celebrating together.

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2 hours ago, Super said:

The difference is you don't have to hug in football.

But the point and the question is very valid.

Certainly not a consistent approach 

1 hour ago, formerly known as ivan said:

I thought we were supposed to be doing everything to stop the spread, not gauging it on the volume of the spread?

One feeds into the other

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On 14/01/2021 at 17:13, The Bard said:

You would have thought it was more transmissable but, how come City have had more cases than Bristol?  Training grounds about 400 metres apart.  Twice as many rugby players playing a game that as you say involves more close contact.

It's not necessarily the game, its behaviours away from it .  The celebration on the pitch is a clear indication that they aren't taking the rules seriously all the time. 

Fair play to Harry Kane last night making a point of not allowing close celebrations in the team.  Proper leadership clearly lacking at most clubs.

 

There have been instances in Rugby (I can't remember whether it was Sale or Harlequins) where 15+ players in the same squad have caught it. You mention Harry Kane, James Madison also came up with a celebration that kept his teammates at arms length...........and Antonio did a backstroke that nobody wanted to get near!!

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15 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

There have been instances in Rugby (I can't remember whether it was Sale or Harlequins) where 15+ players in the same squad have caught it. You mention Harry Kane, James Madison also came up with a celebration that kept his teammates at arms length...........and Antonio did a backstroke that nobody wanted to get near!!

It was Sale, but was 3rd October last year

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48 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

There have been instances in Rugby (I can't remember whether it was Sale or Harlequins) where 15+ players in the same squad have caught it. You mention Harry Kane, James Madison also came up with a celebration that kept his teammates at arms length...........and Antonio did a backstroke that nobody wanted to get near!!

Sale issue was in some part caused by a false negative for one player who then played and it spread rapidly.

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That is good news. 
 

Have clubs tightened up on following the rules or is this trend also true in wider society. 
 

ok it’s only one week of testing but it’s a hell of a % drop seeing as more players and staff have been tested and returned a very big decrease in positive results. 
 

onwards and upwards. 
 

stay safe people we will beat it together. 

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On 22/01/2021 at 13:33, Lrrr said:

22,000 fans to be allowed to attend the Superbowl in a stadium that can hold 65,000

I realise your post two weeks old but Half a million deaths , or close to

Have they had the South African variant yet ?

 

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On 14/01/2021 at 11:25, Mr Hankey said:

As Nuno said the other day, if football is stopped again, it is unlikely to ever come back, at least the way it was. It's one of the only things keeping me sane & not as miserable as i would be during this pandemic (first world problems). Sure, it could be looked at as being selfish, but when you are locked up with only 1 other person working from home since March, it's the only thing that gives me something to look forward to, otherwise it just feels like you are living to work (i know, thankfully i still have job). Think it's right that elite sports are being given the chance to continue & long may it continue (only my opinion of course, i understand why others would feel differently).

The way we are playing it looks like our players are getting ready for another break they started about 2 months ago 

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2 hours ago, Northern Red said:

I see the football is still going, despite the insistence that it was to be imminently stopped a few weeks ago....

Yeh who was it that every post said it should be stopped because there was so many cases in football. Imagine no sport right now - life bad enough as it is.

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12 hours ago, Alex_BCFC said:

Yeh who was it that every post said it should be stopped because there was so many cases in football. Imagine no sport right now - life bad enough as it is.

At the time, I think his opinion was a valid one - but the insistence that it will stop was rather annoying

Still a bit of a pisstake you've got footballers with fresh haircuts, who is cutting their hair? Are some barbers allowed? Only say it as I know several in the business really struggling, I think many are (illegally) doing home cuts to get by. One friend can't take furlough anymore because he's been in the middle of buying a house for the last 3 months and despite previously saying otherwise, the mortgage company have now said they wont issue a mortgage to someone recieving furlough payments. 

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6 minutes ago, MarcusX said:

At the time, I think his opinion was a valid one - but the insistence that it will stop was rather annoying

Still a bit of a pisstake you've got footballers with fresh haircuts, who is cutting their hair? Are some barbers allowed? Only say it as I know several in the business really struggling, I think many are (illegally) doing home cuts to get by. One friend can't take furlough anymore because he's been in the middle of buying a house for the last 3 months and despite previously saying otherwise, the mortgage company have now said they wont issue a mortgage to someone recieving furlough payments. 

Can’t blame them for doing home cuts. People are literally desperate to not lose everything they’ve worked hard for. The whole situation is desperate for millions and must end very quickly now to avoid major long term issues. 

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On 15/01/2021 at 22:03, Oldland2 said:

If we can’t use our season ticket to see a game then perhaps we can use it to jump the queue at the gate for the vaccine, Might be the only shot on target we will see this season

Just hope they dont rope the players into administering the jab. If Semenyo does it, he'll aim for the upper arm and jab you in the arse.

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