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17 minutes ago, TRL said:

So with stocks falling massively due to this pandemic, and this being the footballing pandemic thread... how do we think Steve Lansdown and family have been effected by the massive share slump. How viable are we and Bristol when I comes to chucking money at the money pit? Especially when your worth has potentially had 30% to 50% of it value removed...

 

 

Not sure he is the type of person i'm most worried about at the moment.

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38 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

Rovers lose more every month.

They lose 65k per week don't they, and that was before the falling gates. I wonder how Wallys family bank/shares are faring as well at the moment. If he didn't want to spend a penny before this, what will happen after it is over? If I was one of the Sags I would be more worried than normal about the club.

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1 hour ago, elhombrecito said:

Indeed. Article from yesterday, suggests it's very unlikely that somebody could be reinfected, but as with most things to do with this virus, it's a best guess based on previous viruses. 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/16/the-big-question-over-coronavirus-can-a-person-get-it-twice

One of the most concerning issues since the emergence of the Covid-19 virus has been whether those who have had it can get it a second time – and what that means for immunity.

On Monday, both Sir Patrick Vallance, the government’s chief scientific adviser, and Prof Chris Whitty, Boris Johnson’s chief medical adviser, sought to reassure the public. Those who have had the virus once will develop some immunity, they said – and it is rare to get an infectious disease again.

The questions first arose last month, after Japanese authorities said a woman who had had the virus, and been declared virus-free, had tested positive again. Scientists were left confused by the news and and also uneasy.

Prof Mark Harris, an expert in virology at Leeds University, said reinfection in that case was “unlikely”, but added that “there is some evidence in the scientific literature for persistent infections of animal coronaviruses (mainly in bats)”.

When Vallance was asked on Monday if the Japanese case meant herd immunity was no longer achievable, he replied that some people do catch infectious diseases a second time, but that it is a rare occurrence. There was no evidence to suggest that it would occur with the coronavirus, he added.

Prof Whitty explained that with diseases, even if there is no long-term immunity, there is normally some short-term immunity.

Prof Jon Cohen, emeritus professor of infectious diseases at Brighton and Sussex Medical School, said: “The answer is that we simply don’t know [about reinfection] yet because we don’t have an antibody test for the infection, although we will have soon.

“However, it is very likely, based on other viral infections, that yes, once a person has had the infection they will generally be immune and won’t get it again. There will always be the odd exception, but that is certainly a reasonable expectation.”

That's somewhat reassuring and may lead to a shortening of the crisis. However, being a virus it still has the ability to mutate and so a second wave could be caused by a new strain. 

There is a commonly held belief that you can't catch chickenpox twice, right? Wrong, it's extremely rare but some people do catch it twice or even multiple times. 

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If clubs are in trouble and I think some outside the PL may well be, players should defer or partially defer wages. Like in any other walk of life.

Now the problem is, the further down you go then the less possible this is but should players be doing this where necessary if feasible to do so?

@Kid in the Riot Agree. Certain viruses can mutate, or some can be vulnerable to being infected once. The big thing though in that case, is that we and probably many experts, just don't know. Maybe it will, maybe it won't- statistical probability may well make it less likely but it's only been around 3-4 months, how can we know.

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2 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

If clubs are in trouble and I think some outside the PL may well be, players should defer or partially defer wages. Like in any other walk of life.

Now the problem is, the further down you go then the less possible this is but should players be doing this where necessary if feasible to do so?

 Maybe an across-the-board 25% reduction in salaries while games are not being played. Could buy time for some smaller clubs, while not being so stringent that lower league players cannot put food on their families' tables.

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8 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

 Maybe an across-the-board 25% reduction in salaries while games are not being played. Could buy time for some smaller clubs, while not being so stringent that lower league players cannot put food on their families' tables.

Many in the Prem could donate a lot more than that, but do you honestly think they will? The greed of many in the game won't give a toss about smaller clubs/players etc etc. Players demanding half a million per week don't seem like the sharing types.

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4 minutes ago, wood_red said:

Many in the Prem could donate a lot more than that, but do you honestly think they will? The greed of many in the game won't give a toss about smaller clubs/players etc etc. Players demanding half a million per week don't seem like the sharing types.

I'd like to say football will come together and will do a lot...but I sadly am sure you are right.

Not a good look at all on their part though- whether wage cuts or not, they could do more!

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38 minutes ago, Super said:

Not sure he is the type of person i'm most worried about at the moment.

You are the one that wanted football chst on this thread...jesus cant win with you can we ;)

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2 hours ago, RumRed said:

Well can someone tell my employers please?  

You know, those people that pay me.  
 

That’s the difference between ‘advice’ and ‘an order’

This.

my mum called me today, sent home from work for having a fever and cough. I’ve been with her this weekend and last, so work sent me home this afternoon (To work from home) after the call.

I then got an email saying one of the directors has suggested if I have no symptoms myself I should come back to work tomorrow!

My partners also got a temperature though no other symptoms of yet. All a little too close to home now - for someone who admittedly thought they’d have little chance of catching it

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7 minutes ago, phantom said:

Chancellor has just announced an initial £330 BILLION (15% GDP) will be available for any business to pay bills, wages, rent etc

If this isn't enough more will be available 

Money will be available from next week and currently 6 months interest free loan

Good news indeed,I wouldn’t  expect it to be a full wage though maybe 75%.?

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12 minutes ago, phantom said:

Chancellor has just announced an initial £330 BILLION (15% GDP) will be available for any business to pay bills, wages, rent etc

If this isn't enough more will be available 

Money will be available from next week and currently 6 months interest free loan

I would’ve felt much better about this had it been mentioned yesterday, when first advice given re “not going out”....but at least they’ve now reacted.

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17 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

 Maybe an across-the-board 25% reduction in salaries while games are not being played. Could buy time for some smaller clubs, while not being so stringent that lower league players cannot put food on their families' tables.

There is an assumption that because footballers earned more over their short careers they are in a position of disposable cash they can spare.

If you have an (say on average) ten year career, you'd not find a lender who is going to give you a 25 year mortgage on your 3 million quid house. You'll be shelling out a fortune on repayments and critical illness cover so that if you career comes to a premature end you aren't homeless, likewise trying to get a suitable pension pot in place for the end of a short career is going to be a stretch.

Yes, there will be some players who can probably afford it, but a lot of players already give strongly to charities.

I don't think it's for players to do anything.

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5 minutes ago, MarcusX said:

This.

my mum called me today, sent home from work for having a fever and cough. I’ve been with her this weekend and last, so work sent me home this afternoon (To work from home) after the call.

I then got an email saying one of the directors has suggested if I have no symptoms myself I should come back to work tomorrow!

My partners also got a temperature though no other symptoms of yet. All a little too close to home now - for someone who admittedly thought they’d have little chance of catching it

Exactly, we’re at the mercy of our employers.  Much as people say just do it, that’s not how the world works.  Government should shut it down officially so people an companies can claim on insurance.  For the ‘party of business’ Boris is a ***.

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12 minutes ago, MarcusX said:

This.

my mum called me today, sent home from work for having a fever and cough. I’ve been with her this weekend and last, so work sent me home this afternoon (To work from home) after the call.

I then got an email saying one of the directors has suggested if I have no symptoms myself I should come back to work tomorrow!

My partners also got a temperature though no other symptoms of yet. All a little too close to home now - for someone who admittedly thought they’d have little chance of catching it

Your director is a dick.

Where has he been ? Under a rock ?

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15 minutes ago, MarcusX said:

This.

my mum called me today, sent home from work for having a fever and cough. I’ve been with her this weekend and last, so work sent me home this afternoon (To work from home) after the call.

I then got an email saying one of the directors has suggested if I have no symptoms myself I should come back to work tomorrow!

My partners also got a temperature though no other symptoms of yet. All a little too close to home now - for someone who admittedly thought they’d have little chance of catching it

Tell him you won't be going in as the government has said not to! And tell him he is a cock.

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10 minutes ago, RumRed said:

Exactly, we’re at the mercy of our employers.  Much as people say just do it, that’s not how the world works.  Government should shut it down officially so people an companies can claim on insurance.  For the ‘party of business’ Boris is a ***.

Been mentioned today that even closing businesses, most businesses Insurance doesn’t cover a closure. 

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3 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Genuine question, can the insurance companies afford this if there are widespread payouts?

Easily as a vast majority of policies will not cover it. This is just the wording to make those who do have the relevant policy, get paid out.

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38 minutes ago, phantom said:

Chancellor has just announced an initial £330 BILLION (15% GDP) will be available for any business to pay bills, wages, rent etc

If this isn't enough more will be available 

Money will be available from next week and currently 6 months interest free loan

What about the self employed?

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