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22 minutes ago, MarcusX said:

I think breifings and one-way updates work ok over VC, but always hated having meetings that require debate over VC, especially mutli-office or with some people in a room and some over the video link. There's always a delay and it's always hard to get a word in / get your point across. In my opinion anyway

It's not ideal. But these aren't ideal times.

At present, we hold one zoom meeting a day, the rest of the time it's on messaging or phone calls.

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2 minutes ago, mozo said:

So YOU were the one that started it. Finally, someone to blame!!

So kind! I did Charlton away Boxing Day and managed not to wipe out those in the away end, it was literally a case of felt alright one day and was sick the next 

Joking aside since posting that article on Facebook quite a few people have said similar that they had those symptoms from November/December onwards, this helps explain why it looks like there’s been a massive jump in cases when it’s actually been going on a lot longer than people thought, it also means a lot of those currently panicking at home with their toilet rolls are probably immune now to the virus 

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18 minutes ago, walnutroof said:

Lots of people myself included think this virus has been around quite a bit longer than people think, I’m convinced i had Covid 19 over Christmas as i had almost the exact same symptoms but obviously nobody knew it existed at the time 

I found this online apologies my computer skills only go as far as copying and pasting a link https://www.ccn.com/coronavirus-patient-zero-may-have-started-pandemic-in-november-or-earlier/

 

I'm the same myself.  Felt like bleeding shyte mid-January with a persistent cough, high temperature, muscle aches and wheezing.  Luckily no other family member got it. 

This could be a situation like Aids, where research has indicated that it was likely present in the US from the mid-1960s and Africa from the 1930s:  Yet it wasn't identified as a "new" virus until 1981 and not given its name until 1982.

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5 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

So who is lying? Me? The factories? 

Proof is in the pudding mate 

The proof most definitely is in the pudding m8. SARS,Avian bird flu and now this all originated in China. You obviously have had good experience with them ,that's fine and I get it. Me personally, I'm probably going to lose my business so forgive me if I seem a little pissed of with China as a whole. You crack on m8.

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20 hours ago, Bristol Rob said:

There is an assumption that because footballers earned more over their short careers they are in a position of disposable cash they can spare.

If you have an (say on average) ten year career, you'd not find a lender who is going to give you a 25 year mortgage on your 3 million quid house. You'll be shelling out a fortune on repayments and critical illness cover so that if you career comes to a premature end you aren't homeless, likewise trying to get a suitable pension pot in place for the end of a short career is going to be a stretch.

Yes, there will be some players who can probably afford it, but a lot of players already give strongly to charities.

I don't think it's for players to do anything.

Often agree with you, but tbh we're in a national emergency- indeed, not just national, but a pandemic FFS.

I understand business imperatives but deferral- and clearly the further down you go, the less feasible this is, but deferral at minimum should be something they consider for a while.

Because remember as well as the symbolism, that there will be low paid or below average paid staff at the clubs who don't necessarily get paid during this- staff on matchday as well, often low paid- catering, cleaning, variety of others- plus beyond football, pubs, restaurants in the vicinity of the clubs will be very hard hit.

Either we all make sacrifices or we shouldn't bother- that Stranraer player led the way tbh. It's a cliche but those with least can often do most.

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2 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

I'm the same myself.  Felt like bleeding shyte mid-January with a persistent cough, high temperature, muscle aches and wheezing.  Luckily no other family member got it. 

This could be a situation like Aids, where research has indicated that it was likely present in the US from the mid-1960s and Africa from the 1930s:  Yet it wasn't identified as a "new" virus until 1981 and not given its name until 1982.

I was I’ll all over Xmas, but I didn’t have a cough, just ached, no energy etc.

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12 minutes ago, Vincent Vega said:

The proof most definitely is in the pudding m8. SARS,Avian bird flu and now this all originated in China. You obviously have had good experience with them ,that's fine and I get it. Me personally, I'm probably going to lose my business so forgive me if I seem a little pissed of with China as a whole. You crack on m8.

Sorry to hear you might lose your business.  

7 minutes ago, Super said:

Great stuff. Well done China....

Reasons to be hopeful.  No need to be flippant 

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17 minutes ago, walnutroof said:

So kind! I did Charlton away Boxing Day and managed not to wipe out those in the away end, it was literally a case of felt alright one day and was sick the next 

Joking aside since posting that article on Facebook quite a few people have said similar that they had those symptoms from November/December onwards, this helps explain why it looks like there’s been a massive jump in cases when it’s actually been going on a lot longer than people thought, it also means a lot of those currently panicking at home with their toilet rolls are probably immune now to the virus 

Oh, Charlton, the game where our players took a lead then seemed to become fatigued and weakened and ended up losing and going on a horrible run... I'm not blaming you, but questions have to be asked...

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13 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

I guess there were  "normal" fluey viruses about, as ever, but there certainly seemed to be a lot more yuckyness around this winter than normal.

I blame the weather, we need a nice 2 week cold snap with hard frosts, my Gran always used to say that killed the germs - she was a housewife though, not a biologist......

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12 minutes ago, walnutroof said:

So kind! I did Charlton away Boxing Day and managed not to wipe out those in the away end, it was literally a case of felt alright one day and was sick the next 

Joking aside since posting that article on Facebook quite a few people have said similar that they had those symptoms from November/December onwards, this helps explain why it looks like there’s been a massive jump in cases when it’s actually been going on a lot longer than people thought, it also means a lot of those currently panicking at home with their toilet rolls are probably immune now to the virus 

I was the same over Christmas and New Year.

Went to Millwall with my nephew end of February and he had same symptoms and cough developed during that day and evening. I was with him all day and late into the night and travelled on bus, tube, train and pub and caught nothing from him. He was off for 7 days and it makes me think that its likely that he had this virus.

Does make me wonder if I had the virus a couple of months earlier and now immune - no doubt I'll find out in the coming weeks/months.

Either way I do agree- its likely that a shed load of people have already had the virus and recovered.

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9 minutes ago, Super said:

The number of confirmed cases of coronavirus in the UK has risen by 676 in the last 24 hours, taking the total to 2,626.

A lot more testing taking place.

Probably at least five times that number affected in reality..

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52 minutes ago, walnutroof said:

Lots of people myself included think this virus has been around quite a bit longer than people think, I’m convinced i had Covid 19 over Christmas as i had almost the exact same symptoms but obviously nobody knew it existed at the time 

I found this online apologies my computer skills only go as far as copying and pasting a link https://www.ccn.com/coronavirus-patient-zero-may-have-started-pandemic-in-november-or-earlier/

Yep. I mentioned this all the way back on page 2 or 3 I think, of this thread. 
My sister in law regularly visits China for her work. She returned in mid December and felt terrible. She was told she had severe pneumonia and was given some pretty strong drugs. 
Me and the family spent Xmas at her house, for 3 days and every one of us was ill with these corona symptoms shortly afterwards. 
 

It’s fairly common knowledge now that the first cases of this in China were Nov/Dec so I’m convinced the sister in law came back with this. She was ill for weeks, really badly. And she passed it, in a milder form, onto all of us. 
 

She also said that literally everyone on her flight home was complaining of feeling ill. 
 

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3 minutes ago, Harry said:

Yep. I mentioned this all the way back on page 2 or 3 I think, of this thread. 
My sister in law regularly visits China for her work. She returned in mid December and felt terrible. She was told she had severe pneumonia and was given some pretty strong drugs. 
Me and the family spent Xmas at her house, for 3 days and every one of us was ill with these corona symptoms shortly afterwards. 
 

It’s fairly common knowledge now that the first cases of this in China were Nov/Dec so I’m convinced the sister in law came back with this. She was ill for weeks, really badly. And she passed it, in a milder form, onto all of us. 
 

She also said that literally everyone on her flight home was complaining of feeling ill. 

It didn’t make sense that we were being told this virus only started in Wuhan at the end of December and just over two months later it’s made its way around the world and having so many well known people being tested positive 

On the plus side they’re closer to herd immunity than they thought and make the doomsday scenario we keep hearing about less likely 

 

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4 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Interesting line from Italy.

It is.

But all those people will be subject to a second wave with no immunity - do they keep doing that until a vaccine is produced ?

I don't really know the data but it seems to me that you need a bit of exposure to it to create immunity ?

Time will tell what the best strategy was..

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4 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

It is.

But all those people will be subject to a second wave with no immunity - do they keep doing that until a vaccine is produced ?

I don't really know the data but it seems to me that you need a bit of exposure to it to create immunity ?

Time will tell what the best strategy was..

Let's be honest, this virus is still relatively new- lots of interpretations and debates scientifically.

It's interesting and promising, but who truly knows the best approach.

Bit of exposure may create immunity- but again so many unknowns.

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