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The Coronavirus and its impact on sport/Fans Return (Merged)


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15 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

He constantly looks scared stiff. Which is probably understandable but it's not a good look to portray.

Is it true he ordered Casualty and Holby City off air so that the staff could help with the virus outbreak?

 

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5 minutes ago, bpexile said:

Agreed, Nans are very special, I've been married to one for 48yrs & I can't imagine what our 2 children, 5 grandchildren & myself would do without her. Our deepest condolences & thoughts go to Marcus & his family & he's correct in saying that football is of no importance when it comes to matters like this.

Thanks again, yourself and everyone else for the kind words. Hope everyone is staying safe.

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3 minutes ago, hodge said:

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Look I'm not really one of these conspiracy types of people. But I'm not sure I believe the chinese media and there numbers. I am concerned about the numbers in Spain and Italy will be repeated here. Hazard a guess to the numbers in 3/4 weeks? Deaths daily in the thousands? 

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30 minutes ago, Jerseybean said:

This pandemic will bring out both the best and the worse in human beings......

 

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I've found that taking something like Imodium works better, it's not as expensive and is less abrasive on the arse.

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2 minutes ago, Coppello said:

Christ I'm bored of working from home; I feel like I've listened to every song on Apple Music. I wouldn't be surprised if I was listening to the old Bleep Test CD by Wednesday next week. 

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30 minutes ago, Coppello said:

Christ I'm bored of working from home; I feel like I've listened to every song on Apple Music. I wouldn't be surprised if I was listening to the old Bleep Test CD by Wednesday next week. 

 

28 minutes ago, hodge said:

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But,but,but - I posted live Penguin Cam!

Who doesn't love Penguins?

And the Leopards do move now and again...

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Has anybody any theories as to why Germany has 4 times as many confirmed cases as us yet one third of the deaths? there seems to be no logic to it the percentage of cases to deaths seems to vary wildly in some countries. Switzerland for instance also has a similar number of cases to us despite having a fraction of our population, yet there death rate is 25% of ours pro rata.

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3 hours ago, Kodjias Wrist said:

Look I'm not really one of these conspiracy types of people. But I'm not sure I believe the chinese media and there numbers. I am concerned about the numbers in Spain and Italy will be repeated here. Hazard a guess to the numbers in 3/4 weeks? Deaths daily in the thousands? 

So you’re saying a communist totalitarian government where people who question the regime/leadership mysteriously ‘disappear’ and people get ‘social points’ for agreeing with the government might be fiddling the numbers???????? No way!!!

whatever China are saying times it by 10 and you probably have the correct amount of cases/deaths 

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1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Germany seems a bit of a mystery.

Scientists and virologists are struggling to understand it I believe so what hope do we have. 🤔

Any lessons that scientists, virologists can learn from there would be invaluable however.

Perhaps more testing?

The case with Germany is a strange one. They’re testing a lot more than us but as far as deaths go, they’re not testing the dead the same way we’re testing the dead. 
 

they have a lot better medical service and a lot more ventilators and beds but the healthcare isn’t too dissimilar to France’s, so that’s realistically where the deaths are. 
 

my friends brother works at the Robert Koch Institut and said that essentially the difference between covid19 causing the death or the pre existing illness essentially causing the death is what is keeping the number so low, however that is a lot more in it that. Will ask tomorrow and add it here 

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Interesting article as to where Italy went wrong.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-18/what-went-wrong-with-how-italy-handled-coronavirus/12062242

I also know they reopened bars in Milan and maybe beyond, on February 27th or around that time, before closing them again verbatim, along with the country. The lockdown in the North, news of this leaking out surely played a big role in exacerbating matters?

Surprised to read of India handling it quite well given that it is a nation with significant challenges let's say.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-17/india-is-containing-coronavirus-despite-dense-population/12059024

Read about a sudden shift in Argentina too- I wonder if suddenly going from very few restrictions to a load will flatten the curve quite a bit? It's not third world but it's not first world either.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-argentina-felt-like-a-virus-free-bubble-before-panic-set-in-11959336

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https://www.rebellionresearch.com/blog/northern-italy-wuhan-partners-for-better-or-worse
 

Quite an interesting article here about the Italian situation. It might already have been covered, but I never realised the extent to which northern Italy’s textile and garment industry was reliant on Chinese labour and that it had such close links with Wuhan. 

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2 hours ago, North London Red said:

https://www.rebellionresearch.com/blog/northern-italy-wuhan-partners-for-better-or-worse
 

Quite an interesting article here about the Italian situation. It might already have been covered, but I never realised the extent to which northern Italy’s textile and garment industry was reliant on Chinese labour and that it had such close links with Wuhan. 

Thank you, suddenly that makes more sense now why Italy has been so affected. 

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9 hours ago, bpexile said:

Agreed, Nans are very special, I've been married to one for 48yrs & I can't imagine what our 2 children, 5 grandchildren & myself would do without her. Our deepest condolences & thoughts go to Marcus & his family & he's correct in saying that football is of no importance when it comes to matters like this.

bp, same here, 48 years, 2 kids and 5 grandkids, They are VERY special

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15 hours ago, Odysseus said:

London faces severe issues from the amount of people who work low skilled jobs who can’t afford to live in zone 2 or drive. Maybe they should be shut for certain workers. 

We have all heard lots of hypothetical moral dilemmas in our lives, but London at the moment is an extraordinary real life moral dilemma. You are 100% correct about low skilled low wage workers, though many people don't seem to think they exist, they are the invisible workforce, and shutting London down would be devastating for them. 

Until the government combines formal shutdown with some underwriting of these wages (not the inprecise, passive instructions) people will keep going about their business even if it's wrong. It's easy for people who can work from home, or go without wages, to sneer, but there are a lot of people who desperately need to keep their work.

Our office cleaner last night was in tears, we're her last office open, most of our lot have gone home and she says if we also close today she's got no work and no pay (zero hours cleaning contractor) and two young kids to support. There are people like this all over the city, unless the employer is underwriting wages and shutting down.

And yet all across social and even from our PM last night I hear we should all be in this together and people still going about their business are selfish, we must pull together and follow instructions. It's amazing double standards, we don't pull together to help them afford to be out of work. Their survival instinct goes beyond just COVID-19.

It's a moral dilemma I'm struggling with. I wish the government would remove the uncertainty.

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30 minutes ago, Olé said:

We have all heard lots of hypothetical moral dilemmas in our lives, but London at the moment is an extraordinary real life moral dilemma. You are 100% correct about low skilled low wage workers, though many people don't seem to think they exist, they are the invisible workforce, and shutting London down would be devastating for them. 

Until the government combines formal shutdown with some underwriting of these wages (not the inprecise, passive instructions) people will keep going about their business even if it's wrong. It's easy for people who can work from home, or go without wages, to sneer, but there are a lot of people who desperately need to keep their work.

Our office cleaner last night was in tears, we're her last office open, most of our lot have gone home and she says if we also close today she's got no work and no pay (zero hours cleaning contractor) and two young kids to support. There are people like this all over the city, unless the employer is underwriting wages and shutting down.

And yet all across social and even from our PM last night I hear we should all be in this together and people still going about their business are selfish, we must pull together and follow instructions. It's amazing double standards, we don't pull together to help them afford to be out of work. Their survival instinct goes beyond just COVID-19.

It's a moral dilemma I'm struggling with. I wish the government would remove the uncertainty.

If I was struggling to make ends meet and in that cleaners position then I would be going out and working wherever I could. If you can’t afford to stay at home then you can’t afford to stay at home. it’s as simple as that. 

I think most people would be on the side of the worker here.

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