ChippenhamRed Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 23 minutes ago, Rocky said: Prices will always be OTT. People have a hugely expensive wish list for the new manager and always a big expensive player list but then complain about prices of everything. Football is a business whether you like it or not. “Football is a business” is not an excuse for offering poor value to its customers. Judging by the reaction here, many people feel the items are overpriced and therefore they won’t be buying one. Perhaps more reasonable pricing would actually have brought about more sales and more profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Rocky said: People will. It's a never ending debate. Live within one's means, whether that's a £65 hoodie or buying a £45 one and sewing an old badge on yourself Just had a look to see how competitive they are/aren't and took a gander at the Lacoste website (quite well known in the 'polo shirt' world). Turns out, even with what looks like a massive sale on, the cost of an alligator munching away on your left nip carries a premium, they do however have some absolutely cracking designs if people are in the market for a red polo shirt. https://www.lacoste.com/gb/lacoste/sale/men/polo-shirts/?filters=%7B%22searchColorID%22%3A%22RED%22%7D Would argue as well that this - for forty quid - is better value than the Hummel offering. https://www.lacoste.com/gb/lacoste/men/clothing/polo-shirts/short-sleeves/men's-lacoste-sport-mesh-panel-breathable-tennis-polo-shirt/DH4754-00.html?color=RHD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 Im not sure where most people on here go and buy sports wear but to be fair to City and Hummel the prices they are charging really are the going rate. If you are expecting primark/matalan prices you are being a bit deluded, its branded sports wear. As somebody else pointed out a standard Nike trackie these days your talking over 100er for the jacket and bottoms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, bris red said: Im not sure where most people on here go and buy sports wear but to be fair to City and Hummel the prices they are charging really are the going rate. If you are expecting primark/matalan prices you are being a bit deluded, its branded sports wear. As somebody else pointed out a standard Nike trackie these days your talking over 100er for the jacket and bottoms. But the prices being charged are 30-40% above the product’s standard price, because it has a 50p embroidered badge stuck on it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 2 hours ago, James54De said: Prices are about the going rate for well manufactured clothes. Don’t get the complaints. Nike tracksuits cost £100 for the set. Oh that makes it alright then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James54De Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, David Brent said: Oh that makes it alright then It does make it a realistic price point. People are still living in the past expecting 30/40 pound for a jacket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, James54De said: It does make it a realistic price point. People are still living in the past expecting 30/40 pound for a jacket. Think it's more the point that the manufacturer knocks them out for forty quid, but the moment they stick on a club badge, the price jumps twenty quid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Alex_BCFC said: Generally everything is about 70% overpriced for me (£65 for a hoodie?!). Will wait for sale. If people pay these prices then best of luck to them. My old mum used to say that "she knows the price of everything but the value of sod all". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 51 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: Just had a look to see how competitive they are/aren't and took a gander at the Lacoste website (quite well known in the 'polo shirt' world). Turns out, even with what looks like a massive sale on, the cost of an alligator munching away on your left nip carries a premium, they do however have some absolutely cracking designs if people are in the market for a red polo shirt. https://www.lacoste.com/gb/lacoste/sale/men/polo-shirts/?filters=%7B%22searchColorID%22%3A%22RED%22%7D Would argue as well that this - for forty quid - is better value than the Hummel offering. https://www.lacoste.com/gb/lacoste/men/clothing/polo-shirts/short-sleeves/men's-lacoste-sport-mesh-panel-breathable-tennis-polo-shirt/DH4754-00.html?color=RHD I take it you are having a laugh as that shirt is absolutely horrendous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: Think it's more the point that the manufacturer knocks them out for forty quid, but the moment they stick on a club badge, the price jumps twenty quid. Because we want to make money too? Can't see Hummel wanting to knock too much off how much they make per item Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 10 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: Think it's more the point that the manufacturer knocks them out for forty quid, but the moment they stick on a club badge, the price jumps twenty quid. There is more cost involved though, it's not just 50p more. They cant mass produce Bristol City goods like they can the rest of the gear, they wont want much excess stock that they cant shift - and then of course the club will want to make a profit on top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, bcfc01 said: I take it you are having a laugh as that shirt is absolutely horrendous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Bristol Rob said: Think we all understand that, but equally people have a limit. Are the manufacturers and club better off selling twice as much stock with a lower margin and lower retail price than they are charging a far higher price and shifting half as much. There is a limit to just how much 'quality' can go in to a hoodie, and with online sales and budget retailers able to knock out an unbranded product for about a third of the price, so whilst I accept that people will pay a premium for City branded, are they going to spend forty quid more for a badge? This "half the price, twice the sell" argument is used all the time, with everything Do you think companies dont have a model for sales? Do you think a value is just plucked out of the air? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 1 minute ago, MarcusX said: This "half the price, twice the sell" argument is used all the time, with everything Do you think companies dont have a model for sales? Do you think a value is just plucked out of the air? Yes. (There now follows half a dozen message exchange where I dig my heels in, based on zero sector knowledge whatsoever) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Notgetinya Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 34 minutes ago, David Brent said: Oh that makes it alright then Are you going to be wearing the shoes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 What annoys me about this thread is that people defend the prices because “that’s how much things are these days” and then compare with other similarly over-priced goods from elsewhere to justify it - or even designer items like Lacoste! The fact is that the cost of this stuff over the last 10 years or so has gone up way ahead of inflation, and it isn’t designer gear - it’s sportswear for an average second tier football club. As fans we’ve slept-walked into paying high prices for anything to do with football, while we pay to watch average players earning millions of pounds for being average, and we end up defending it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 1 hour ago, bris red said: Im not sure where most people on here go and buy sports wear but to be fair to City and Hummel the prices they are charging really are the going rate. If you are expecting primark/matalan prices you are being a bit deluded, its branded sports wear. As somebody else pointed out a standard Nike trackie these days your talking over 100er for the jacket and bottoms. Quick straw poll of a well known high street retailer. Literally not one Nike tracksuit here anywhere near £100. https://m.jdsports.co.uk/men/mens-clothing/tracksuits/brand/nike/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 9 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: Quick straw poll of a well known high street retailer. Literally not one Nike tracksuit here anywhere near £100. https://m.jdsports.co.uk/men/mens-clothing/tracksuits/brand/nike/ You're overlooking the compulsory forty quid spend you have to make in 'Spoons to show it off after you've bought it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James54De Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 12 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: Quick straw poll of a well known high street retailer. Literally not one Nike tracksuit here anywhere near £100. https://m.jdsports.co.uk/men/mens-clothing/tracksuits/brand/nike/ They’re poly tracksuits. Look for Tech Fleece, which is a similar standard to what Hummel would produce. Probably looking £80 bottoms and £50 jacket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeez Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Bristol Rob said: Think it's more the point that the manufacturer knocks them out for forty quid, but the moment they stick on a club badge, the price jumps twenty quid. Standard format for sports teams or any brand collaboration is to add license royalties future back in the costing process, so its nowhere near as simplistic. Club will agree a royalty of say 15-20-25% on wholesale or retail in return for a captive audience/guaranteed sales + a decent advance + guarantees. Add the royalty to the standard wholesale price multiply by the regular mark up and your arrive at what might seem disproportionate but is the only way both parties can maintain level profitability. There no way a sportswear company can offer licensed merch on parity with unlicensed goods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Sinclair Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 More Hummel fayre from Fleetwood away kit http://www.footballshirtculture.com/20/21-Kits/fleetwood-town-2020-2021-away-kit.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Eddie Notgetinya said: Are you going to be wearing the shoes? I’m not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ronnie Sinclair said: More Hummel fayre from Fleetwood away kit http://www.footballshirtculture.com/20/21-Kits/fleetwood-town-2020-2021-away-kit.html That’s a better collar than Everton have on their Hummel shirt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2015 Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 1 minute ago, David Brent said: That’s a better collar than Everton have on their Hummel shirt Preferred Sergio Georgini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Notgetinya Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 27 minutes ago, David Brent said: I’m not A lot of people are laughing at the heels on them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agard Days Night Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 4 hours ago, Bristol Rob said: whilst I accept that people will pay a premium for City branded, are they going to spend forty quid more for a badge? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 15 minutes ago, Agard Days Night said: Yes. Be cheaper to get a tattoo and go topless! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agard Days Night Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 15 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: Be cheaper to get a tattoo and go topless! Could work but also could be a bit cold? And potentially not everybody wants to see loads of middle aged City lads with their tits out outside the Spanish bar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 2 hours ago, James54De said: They’re poly tracksuits. Look for Tech Fleece, which is a similar standard to what Hummel would produce. Probably looking £80 bottoms and £50 jacket. You’re being incredibly generous here. The Hummel tops are described as “cotton mix hooded sweater”. It’s a cotton jumper. Hardly a complex multi-layered technical fabric that justifies a high price tag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalcub Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 Cant believe no ones mentioned the cost of last seasons gear ..... still ridiculously overpriced for gear that wont be worn again ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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