Taylor10 Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Lez said: Vyner has to be in the squad cos home grown....but surely with benkovic on bench nagy should be there ahead of William's......3 CBS and no cm crazy !!! Yeah I gathered that about Vyner. But as you say 3 cbs is crazy! Even if he left Hunt out Vyner could play RB so makes no sense. Trying to second guess LJ is impossible but I can only assume he based that starting line up on who has been the fittest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen humphries Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 18 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Gaps too big between Defence - Midfield - Attack.....makes closing down so hard. Felt sorry for Smith and Massengo. Absolutely spot on , they were up against it from the first minute, hnm needs to have the ball at his feet not spend the entire game chasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Domingo Roldan Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 When are we having a Johnson Out thread? It won't be 'normal' footy unless we do & they are so much fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen humphries Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Juan Domingo Roldan said: When are we having a Johnson Out thread? It won't be 'normal' footy unless we do & they are so much fun. Bed sheets at the ready Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 Lets face it we have too many players and the sooner we have a squad of 18 or 20 max the sooner Johnson will stop pissing around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez Posted June 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 21 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said: Lets face it we have too many players and the sooner we have a squad of 18 or 20 max the sooner Johnson will stop pissing around Gone from needing different clubs to having too many in the bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fpcity Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 39 minutes ago, forestofdean said: I cant understand how we have gone from a good attacking side that had the cup run and was playing well in the league to the defence dross we are watching now.its like lee has lost faith and trust in his own players and for some reason put players on the bench that most of us would have in the 11. That cup run spell the team picked itself due to injury so he couldn't tinker every game, guess they got used to playing with each other and no big man to lump it up to. Our form went when Fam came back and he started to do his usual tombola selection as many call it on here. He goes on about picking players he can trust but do the players trust him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 2 hours ago, forestofdean said: I cant understand how we have gone from a good attacking side that had the cup run and was playing well in the league to the defence dross we are watching now.its like lee has lost faith and trust in his own players and for some reason put players on the bench that most of us would have in the 11. 1 hour ago, paul_fox said: That cup run spell the team picked itself due to injury so he couldn't tinker every game, guess they got used to playing with each other and no big man to lump it up to. Our form went when Fam came back and he started to do his usual tombola selection as many call it on here. He goes on about picking players he can trust but do the players trust him? That team and Cup run had two phases. We had a shit load of at varied times injuries (hmm, nothing new there) under LJ. Actually we seemed to mix it up quite a bit, sometimes Leko out wide, sometimes Brownhill- sometimes O'Dowda- and less ofgten but on occasion even Eliasson! Early season or the first 2-3 months we often had: Fielding Pisano Flint Baker Bryan Brownhill Smith Pack Paterson Reid Diedhiou That was good but it had certain limitations too. Woodrow as well could come in- think the most often starters were Fielding, Flint, Bryan, Brownhill, Smith, Pack, Paterson and Reid? When I say it had limitations it certainly wasn't poor to watch but technically and tactically I preferred the side when we had a lot out! Then injuries struck and we had to field a certain team- and this team was lovely and fluid while still holding a solid base: Fielding Wright Flint Baker Magnússon Brownhill Smith Pack Bryan Paterson Reid This was after Diedhiou, then Djuric- latterly O'Dowda to name 3 but I am sure it was 2-3 times this, got injured! That second side was not only lovely and fluid but it was hard to play through as well- first team could be a bit easy to perhaps burst through the centre, especially if say Leko and O'Dowda in wide areas, or to push back the wing backs. That second side for a time though had it all. Wright could tuck inside to help when necessary in central areas. So too could Magnússon if say the left central side being targeted. Brownhill on one hand could protect his flank- but on another help to regain some semblance of control centrally. Paterson in such a midfield could drop back- play him as a '10' or not at all I think. Thought this two years ago and my view hasn't changed an awful lot since! Reid of course could press both up top but also drop back into midfield- again suddenly a 4-6-0, and opposition cannot play through or cannot exert control, or if they do it's with great difficulty! Also possible though less easy is the idea that in-game one of Wright or Magnússon- I'll say Magnússon- can tuck in and make a back 3, with Wright and Bryan not quite as wing backs but I dunno- wide defenders, narrower full backs- some hybrid? 3-5-1-1, or 3-6-1- again hard to play through, yet some control over the game too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AshtonGreat Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Lez said: Nagy has been training all week so I dont see why he was unable to be om the bench. Sick note Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 This chap makes a pretty good fist of explaining LJ's team selection... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 3 hours ago, LondonBristolian said: It's the second half thinking that bothers me more than the first half. We seem to have played 45 minutes without a midfield... Yep. 100% Not sure why people are going on about the starting team. We were 1-0 up after 35 minutes. Problem was in the heart of defence, weak keeping and then substitutions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said: That team and Cup run had two phases. We had a shit load of at varied times injuries (hmm, nothing new there) under LJ. Actually we seemed to mix it up quite a bit, sometimes Leko out wide, sometimes Brownhill- sometimes O'Dowda- and less ofgten but on occasion even Eliasson! Early season or the first 2-3 months we often had: Fielding Pisano Flint Baker Bryan Brownhill Smith Pack Paterson Reid Diedhiou That was good but it had certain limitations too. Woodrow as well could come in- think the most often starters were Fielding, Flint, Bryan, Brownhill, Smith, Pack, Paterson and Reid? When I say it had limitations it certainly wasn't poor to watch but technically and tactically I preferred the side when we had a lot out! Then injuries struck and we had to field a certain team- and this team was lovely and fluid while still holding a solid base: Fielding Wright Flint Baker Magnússon Brownhill Smith Pack Bryan Paterson Reid This was after Diedhiou, then Djuric- latterly O'Dowda to name 3 but I am sure it was 2-3 times this, got injured! That second side was not only lovely and fluid but it was hard to play through as well- first team could be a bit easy to perhaps burst through the centre, especially if say Leko and O'Dowda in wide areas, or to push back the wing backs. That second side for a time though had it all. Wright could tuck inside to help when necessary in central areas. So too could Magnússon if say the left central side being targeted. Brownhill on one hand could protect his flank- but on another help to regain some semblance of control centrally. Paterson in such a midfield could drop back- play him as a '10' or not at all I think. Thought this two years ago and my view hasn't changed an awful lot since! Reid of course could press both up top but also drop back into midfield- again suddenly a 4-6-0, and opposition cannot play through or cannot exert control, or if they do it's with great difficulty! Also possible though less easy is the idea that in-game one of Wright or Magnússon- I'll say Magnússon- can tuck in and make a back 3, with Wright and Bryan not quite as wing backs but I dunno- wide defenders, narrower full backs- some hybrid? 3-5-1-1, or 3-6-1- again hard to play through, yet some control over the game too. I had a similar conversation with a mate earlier about the 2nd team. He was forced into it though, No choice. LJ has shown time and time again that he cannot think clearly when he has choice. He is a coach. Give him 12 players and he will get the most out of them with a settled formation. He's a number 2. A Steve MacLaren.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtucks Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 3 hours ago, paul_fox said: Multiple promotions and cups on FM This happens in almost every game. He rarely gets his starting line up right Only on FM??? No experience in the real game? Still I can't understand why you haven't be headhunted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fpcity Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 13 minutes ago, Redtucks said: Only on FM??? No experience in the real game? Still I can't understand why you haven't be headhunted! Yeah I know. How am I meant to prove myself when no one will give me chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Redtucks Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 1 hour ago, paul_fox said: Yeah I know. How am I meant to prove myself when no one will give me chance. Making judgements on players of whom you have first hand knowledge rather pure conjecture might help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 16 hours ago, LondonBristolian said: It's the second half thinking that bothers me more than the first half. We seem to have played 45 minutes without a midfield... Yes, I agree LB. For all the talk of the starting line up, the bench being better than the starting XI, how can we leave xx on the bench and so on, I thought we were more effective first 30 minutes than we were the last 30 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 Stanley Unwin. He's the man to explain that team selection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrizzleRed Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 14 minutes ago, downendcity said: Stanley Unwin. He's the man to explain that team selection. Judging by that mess yesterday, the players would probably get more out of him if he was doing the pre-match team talk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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