Frenchay Red Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, lenred said: 10 years since Hartley played for us. Incredible we haven’t had a player of his ilk since because god knows we’ve needed one. Not exactly the same type of player, but Wade Elliott was a classy and influential midfielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 57 minutes ago, Harry said: I was saying all season that we didn’t have ‘Top 6’ individuals and there was a helluva lot of argument against that. I stand by it. We do. Shit manager who cannot identify a system or structure to suit them is the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 58 minutes ago, hodge said: To be fair you can only have so good an idea of someone before signing them, the trust he's talking about is that developed on the training ground and on the pitch playing for us. Personally expect to see Maenpaa, Williams, Dasilva and Weimann back in the starting XI at least next weekend Definitely 2 of those (Mäenpää & Dasilva) but Weimann may not be available & even if he is, how much training will he have missed? Agree with you about Williams but not sure he’ll start, Kalas was woeful today, by the way, what the **** was that back pass all about? Only decent block from him came when we were 3-1 down, that’s not much use, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 52 minutes ago, hodge said: To be fair you can only have so good an idea of someone before signing them, the trust he's talking about is that developed on the training ground and on the pitch playing for us. Personally expect to see Maenpaa, Williams, Dasilva and Weimann back in the starting XI at least next weekend It’ll get ripped up for next week. Pereira (thigh) will mean Hunt, and that will force LJ into thinking Wingbacks is the only option. 5212 it will be. Maenpaa in. Williams and Benkovic in alongside Kalas. Nagy or Henriksen in for Massengo. Both wingers out, Wells and Afobe in, Diedhiou out. So: Maenpaa Hunt / Kalas / Williams / Benkovic / Dasilva Smith / Nagy Paterson Afobe / Wells Thats 8 changes, after 3 months and 1 game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamski Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Davefevs said: It’ll get ripped up for next week. Pereira (thigh) will mean Hunt, and that will force LJ into thinking Wingbacks is the only option. 5212 it will be. Maenpaa in. Williams and Benkovic in alongside Kalas. Nagy or Henriksen in for Massengo. Both wingers out, Wells and Afobe in, Diedhiou out. So: Maenpaa Hunt / Kalas / Williams / Benkovic / Dasilva Smith / Nagy Paterson Afobe / Wells Thats 8 changes, after 3 months and 1 game. Patterson Oh dear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big dosser Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, Davefevs said: It’ll get ripped up for next week. Pereira (thigh) will mean Hunt, and that will force LJ into thinking Wingbacks is the only option. 5212 it will be. Maenpaa in. Williams and Benkovic in alongside Kalas. Nagy or Henriksen in for Massengo. Both wingers out, Wells and Afobe in, Diedhiou out. So: Maenpaa Hunt / Kalas / Williams / Benkovic / Dasilva Smith / Nagy Paterson Afobe / Wells Thats 8 changes, after 3 months and 1 game. I like the look of that but I would go for palmer instead of pato ,just because of the benik and palmer relationship early in the season along with wells I think we could be a handfull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, adamski said: Patterson Oh dear! I’m only saying what LJ will do, not what I’d do, 2 minutes ago, forestofdean said: I like the look of that but I would go for palmer instead of pato ,just because of the benik and palmer relationship early in the season along with wells I think we could be a handfull Agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 This is where LJ just underlines one of his key weaknesses. Players ‘I can trust’. How many times have the likes of CoD, Pato let him down when he’s trusted them? How many more chances is he going to give them? You can’t build a team with players that provide a 90 minute performance once in a blue moon. LJ just doesn’t get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 15 minutes ago, Davefevs said: It’ll get ripped up for next week. Pereira (thigh) will mean Hunt, and that will force LJ into thinking Wingbacks is the only option. 5212 it will be. Maenpaa in. Williams and Benkovic in alongside Kalas. Nagy or Henriksen in for Massengo. Both wingers out, Wells and Afobe in, Diedhiou out. So: Maenpaa Hunt / Kalas / Williams / Benkovic / Dasilva Smith / Nagy Paterson Afobe / Wells Thats 8 changes, after 3 months and 1 game. Probably not far off what passes for thought processes with LJ. Shipping all those soft goals will definitely mean five at the back and a different keeper, and he'll wind the short man syndrome up to full rage and thoroughly demotivate the players so the football will be fearful and negative. He will probably throw Palmer in though who will have a bad game as nobody else on the pitch moves, and then use that as an excuse to never put him in a squad again. Nagy has clearly done something to upset him. I must say after his interview I am feeling a lot more negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamski Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I’m only saying what LJ will do, not what I’d do, Agree Sorry, I know, just expressing my reaction to Johnson’s choice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, Nibor said: Probably not far off what passes for thought processes with LJ. Shipping all those soft goals will definitely mean five at the back and a different keeper, and he'll wind the short man syndrome up to full rage and thoroughly demotivate the players so the football will be fearful and negative. He will probably throw Palmer in though who will have a bad game as nobody else on the pitch moves, and then use that as an excuse to never put him in a squad again. Nagy has clearly done something to upset him. I must say after his interview I am feeling a lot more negative. I think you’ve got him sussed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eardun Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 25 minutes ago, Davefevs said: It’ll get ripped up for next week. Pereira (thigh) will mean Hunt, and that will force LJ into thinking Wingbacks is the only option. 5212 it will be. Maenpaa in. Williams and Benkovic in alongside Kalas. Nagy or Henriksen in for Massengo. Both wingers out, Wells and Afobe in, Diedhiou out. So: Maenpaa Hunt / Kalas / Williams / Benkovic / Dasilva Smith / Nagy Paterson Afobe / Wells Thats 8 changes, after 3 months and 1 game. I would go with that formation, but I think Baker will keep his place and hopefully Palmer will start instead of Paterson. It worries me that Nagy wasn’t on the bench today - is he still not fully fit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, eardun said: I would go with that formation, but I think Baker will keep his place and hopefully Palmer will start instead of Paterson. It worries me that Nagy wasn’t on the bench today - is he still not fully fit? Dunno, allegedly LJ said something pre game along the lines of “I’m keeping that one up my sleeve” when asked about Nagy. I didn’t hear it though. Positive test??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 Embarrassing interview from a man who thinks he’s the only with any football knowledge and us supporters are mugs . Bored Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eardun Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Dunno, allegedly LJ said something pre game along the lines of “I’m keeping that one up my sleeve” when asked about Nagy. I didn’t hear it though. Positive test??? You may be right. They were tested again on Thursday I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Wood Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 1 hour ago, daored said: Seriously when is somebody in our club going to ask serious questions about this. He needs players he can trust - Lee these are YOUR players with the exception of Vyner (didn’t start) @ Smith you’ve signed every one of these players. Why have you got players you don’t trust , you & Ashton spout bollocks about DNA all the time. Its time you took responsibility Spot on he's the master of spin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, eardun said: You may be right. They were tested again on Thursday I think. Yes, they were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eardun Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 Just heard the quote re Nagy here. Difficult to tell from that although has the feel of something personal for Nagy rather than a falling out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 ‘Gotta pick players I can trust’ So, did you not trust the players you started today? If not, why start them? If you did, why not now? Those are the Qs that Should be asked imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Wood Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 He really is the master of bullshit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: It’ll get ripped up for next week. Pereira (thigh) will mean Hunt, and that will force LJ into thinking Wingbacks is the only option. 5212 it will be. Maenpaa in. Williams and Benkovic in alongside Kalas. Nagy or Henriksen in for Massengo. Both wingers out, Wells and Afobe in, Diedhiou out. So: Maenpaa Hunt / Kalas / Williams / Benkovic / Dasilva Smith / Nagy Paterson Afobe / Wells Thats 8 changes, after 3 months and 1 game. That is pretty much what I'd have gone with today tbh, although I may have had Pereira, Massengo or Baker involved. Happy to admit that thos may have been errors. I know hindsight is easy but Bentley and Eliasson have both flattered to deceive for most of the season. the 532/352/5212 or however you write is, for me, the one that gets the most out of the most individuals, whilst balancing it with the needs of the team. It also provides the most balance between defence, midfield, and attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 24 minutes ago, eardun said: Just heard the quote re Nagy here. Difficult to tell from that although has the feel of something personal for Nagy rather than a falling out. Clicheville Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packman Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 What formation and team did we play when Watkins had a couple of good games before getting injured? Anyone remind me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenkibby. Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 The most worrying thought is that he can't trust 11 of the 40,50 players he has signed. Then he will be given a free leash to go out and sign another 7 or 8 pre season and hope 1 or 2 might end up as players he can trust. Truly ****** amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcnick Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 Judging by LJ's answer "I'd rather keep that to myself but hopefully e will be available for next week" I suspect Nagy is the player who has had coronavirus. Some very odd selections such as O'Dowda in midfield, Bentley over Maenpaa and Rowe over Desilva plus limited minutes for Afobe and Wells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 35 minutes ago, Packman said: What formation and team did we play when Watkins had a couple of good games before getting injured? Anyone remind me. I think you are recalling Cardiff and Barnsley, both away....played up top in wingback formation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 16 minutes ago, bcfcnick said: Judging by LJ's answer "I'd rather keep that to myself but hopefully e will be available for next week" I suspect Nagy is the player who has had coronavirus. Some very odd selections such as O'Dowda in midfield, Bentley over Maenpaa and Rowe over Desilva plus limited minutes for Afobe and Wells. What if Nagy was subject to an offer from another club, which we’d accepted? Dont worry, no itk, just speculating. We will have a good idea when EFL announce covid results on Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 30 minutes ago, Davefevs said: What if Nagy was subject to an offer from another club, which we’d accepted? Dont worry, no itk, just speculating. We will have a good idea when EFL announce covid results on Wednesday. LJ suggested that he would be available next week....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eardun Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 If a family member of a player went down with coronavirus symptoms, presumably that would also put the player out of the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 3 hours ago, forestofdean said: keep saying the same we need a bloody leader,i never see a player try to wind are players up,take responsibility and most of all wind the opposition up,what I would give for a Paul Hartley ,tommy doc or bobby hutch and im sure the older ones would say a Gerry gow We had Taylor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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