AG City Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 Given the fact that Mark Ashton has stated that there will be very little transfer activity unless we trade, I think we may need to do just that and make some serious surgery to our central midfield. We have been lacking midfield creativity and someone who can break in the box for what seems like decades. Added to this, we have never really replaced that midfield enforcer in the mould of Kalifa Cisse. I think Johnson thought O'Neill/Hegeler/Henriksen could perform that role but it never quite worked out for various reasons. For me, I would build our midfield around Liam Walsh with a central three, with Walsh behind a front two - supported by two central quality midfielders who both Morrell and Massengo could learn from. I would fund this through the sales of both Diedhiou and Eliasson (I think Nagy will go as well, but will hardly contribute much to the coffers). I would also try and bring in Perriera if we can - perhaps another year loan if we aren't in the position to spend. Johnson's signings always seem to have a level or risk about them, and given the right back spot as been an issue since Ayling departed it might be a case of 'better the devil you know' with that. Personally, I think Johnson would definitely get some brownie points with the fans if he gave some of our youngsters a decent run in the side next season. I care little really for Premiership football, although I would definitely feel more invested in it if O'Leary, Moore, Walsh and Morrell were given a decent run and we took the game to the opposition for a change and had more attacking intent (granted we might get a few thrashings, but I could take that). I also have a feeling that Korey Smith, Jamie Patterson (rumour that he is off to Coventry where he is from) may be out the door at the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 1 hour ago, cidered abroad said: Quality of passing and defending. Excellent start CA. And a bit more power I would say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 3 hours ago, REDOXO said: I like Nagy. After yesterday’s inept team and performance I have given up already. Sad but wtf was that. next season we have Walsh Morrell Nagy HNM Smith if retained Patterson the other young lads doing well. Plus Elliason ...Who have I missed in midfield please feel free to add. what are we obviously missing? A midfielder of top 6 championship quality. Release Smith, loan Massengo and reinvest the wages in a good midfielder IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elruliri Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 As I've said on another thread in years to come we could have a hell of a midfield but feel we could do with a wise head like a Shelton or a Hartley in the middle unfortunately I don't think Smith is the answer. We need a Gareth Barry type like Wade Elliott was for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Lez said: Nagy is a much better player than Marlon Pack. Based on what evidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldlandReddies Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 Smith/Palmer is the perfect combo for me as long as Afobe is in front of them. As simple as that. Can't see what the problem is Lee ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhhshauntaylor Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Lez said: Nagy is a much better player than Marlon Pack. Give me Pack over Nagy every single day. predicted Nagy would be another Hegelar and looks like being correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldlandReddies Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 Nagy not good enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarumred Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 We need to go back to the 3-5-2 formation we had prior to Afobe’s injury. At that time Afobe was partnered by either Fam or Weimann with Palmer an integral part of the midfield. Personally, I would play Wells alongside Afobe but as has been said elsewhere, it’s midfield that is the real problem area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 38 minutes ago, OldlandReddies said: Smith/Palmer is the perfect combo for me as long as Afobe is in front of them. As simple as that. Can't see what the problem is Lee ????? You can’t have smith and Palmer in a 2... we would get hammered! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldlandReddies Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, marcofisher said: You can’t have smith and Palmer in a 2... we would get hammered! So Smith and Han worked? I'd change Odowda and Elliason too outside of them as they were non existent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Harry said: Based on what evidence? Based on his track record, international experiences, and the 1 game he played when fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, OldlandReddies said: So Smith and Han worked? I'd change Odowda and Elliason too outside of them as they were non existent. Palmer isn’t a central midfielder, he is a number 10. Playing a number 10 with only 1 central midfielder would be defensive suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 47 minutes ago, OldlandReddies said: Smith/Palmer is the perfect combo for me as long as Afobe is in front of them. As simple as that. Can't see what the problem is Lee ????? This shows how little you know about football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarumred Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 We didn’t have Smith in the early part of the season. Massengo, Nagy and Palmer for me with Hunt and Dasilva as the wing backs. Pato could play instead of Palmer but, for me, it has to be 3 in the midfield area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldlandReddies Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 Just now, Lez said: This shows how little you know about football. Give me your midfield then Zidane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, OldlandReddies said: Give me your midfield then Zidane Smith Nagy with Palmer in front in a 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NcnsBcfc Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 Got all the makings of a one season loan to a team on the continent about it. I'm sure we would want to recoup our transfer fee, but the market will be depressed everywhere. For a half against QPR, I really thought we had a wonderful player. Just hasn't worked out due to injury, form and the general nonsense that is our midfield selection policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, marcofisher said: Palmer isn’t a central midfielder, he is a number 10. Playing a number 10 with only 1 central midfielder would be defensive suicide. He is, but I have wondered if playing him deeper may actually work after seeing how Romaine Sawyers has adapted to it, they’re very similar players I reckon. I wouldn’t write it off completely in the right formation, but certainly not in a 4-4-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packman Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 Lez said Nagy is the best player in the championship, his knowledge is right up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldlandReddies Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 27 minutes ago, Lez said: Smith Nagy with Palmer in front in a 3 I'd have 3/5/2... Kalas, Baker and Williams with Hunt, Smith, Palmer, Weimann, Dasilva and Wells and Afobe up top. Maempa in goal . Lovely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 Just now, OldlandReddies said: I'd have 3/5/2... Kalas, Baker and Williams with Hunt, Smith, Palmer, Weimann, Dasilva and Wells and Afobe up top. Lovely. One central midfielder ? Who alongside Smith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: One central midfielder ? Who alongside Smith? Exactly. Our problem yesterday (among others!). And arguably a lot longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funky monkey Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 I feel like the team has lost its was of playing. We have the best squad we’ve ever assembled but missing a few key players from previous squads to really make it click....Reid and Bryan .....Add a kodjia to the mix as well and we’d be pushing automatic. Takes time getting that right balance to make it work. We desperately need that link player from mid to attack...hopefully sammy is the guy for that next year....wide players are the key....most attacks and dangerous play result from this....we don’t have dangerous enough players in this position currently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrongagain Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 5 hours ago, Norn Iron said: Has he tried looking for it yet? He tried but he could not get high enough to see through the keyhole! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldlandReddies Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 24 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: One central midfielder ? Who alongside Smith? Cmon then....you give me your 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 Just now, OldlandReddies said: Cmon then....you give me your 11 Well my XI wouldn’t have one central midfielder in it. The XI that gets most of the better players in their best position is 5-3-2 and includes Palmer is Maenpaa Kalas. Benkovic. Baker Pereira. Dasilva. Smith. Nagy Palmer Afobe. Wells Not a massive fan of the formation though nor Palmer so that wouldn’t be my team. Very hard to get those two strikers in a team without losing the midfield or wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanDimz Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 I don't like the lad at all...I mean have you seen that video from Failand when he said "stop filming me man" with that pissed off grim on his face. Let him go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, bcfcbulgaria said: I don't like the lad at all...I mean have you seen that video from Failand when he said "stop filming me man" with that pissed off grim on his face. Let him go. You don’t like him cos of one short video! Haha. Brilliant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanDimz Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 1 minute ago, And Its Smith said: You don’t like him cos of one short video! Haha. Brilliant Of course that's not the main reason I don't like him, but to me it says a lot about his attitude towards the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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