SinéadB Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, The Gasbuster said: Points deduction THIS season ? Yes I think it will be 12 points. "The EFL rule 12.3.1 says that: If any Club becomes subject to or suffers an Insolvency Event, that Club shall be deducted 12 points." Leaves them 4 points from safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeyed Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, The Gasbuster said: Points deduction THIS season ? Looks like a 12 point deduction likely which will see them plummet to bottom of the table (4 points from safety) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityloyal473 Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, The Gasbuster said: Points deduction THIS season ? If so they are in a world of hurt. Would be 12 points which would put them 4 adrift at the bottom. Just now, Banjo Red said: Get some players on the cheap Get the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, Banjo Red said: Get some players on the cheap Or a manager.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUTOR Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 Nick their manager on the sly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 On them being 4 points from safety I think they'll still survive, if nothing else I could see the deduction acting as a big motivator for everyone at the club, they still have QPR home, Barnsley away, Hull home, Charlton away to play as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Street red Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 Just listened to Dave Whelan on talksport he's in shock that the club's gone into admin. Seems he's looking into what's gone on maybe going to step in,His love for the club and a man at 83 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 Deducting points, given the present pandemic, seems very harsh. Surely there should be an amnesty while clubs try to survive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tin Soldier Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 Cook is my no.1 choice but he is not a YES man which means Lansdown will not go near him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: Deducting points, given the present pandemic, seems very harsh. Surely there should be an amnesty while clubs try to survive? Providing they can prove that Covid-19 is a route cause of their difficulties, then yes, I agree. If Covid just becomes an excuse for mismanagement by Wigan or anybody else, then no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: Deducting points, given the present pandemic, seems very harsh. Surely there should be an amnesty while clubs try to survive? Personally I think it’s far from certain they will face a points deduction. They can argue unforeseen and unavoidable circumstances so I think more likely they won’t get a deduction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarksRobin Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 Worrying for their fans. I expect it is a cash flow problem; like most clubs they would have been expecting to make some money from player trading by now. Could be the first of many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: Deducting points, given the present pandemic, seems very harsh. Surely there should be an amnesty while clubs try to survive? Presumably why leagues 1 and 2 voted to curtail, limited income and having to unfurlough staff to be able to compete, question to answer would be whether Wigan would have gone into administration if football didn't return? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 Dave Whelan didn't break his leg for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstart Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 Have to wonder if Wigan going into Administration will be the first of many now unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, hodge said: Presumably why leagues 1 and 2 voted to curtail, limited income and having to unfurlough staff to be able to compete, question to answer would be whether Wigan would have gone into administration if football didn't return? This. I would imagine we will see several L1 and L2 clubs go into administration in the break between seasons as the money runs out. I’d also think that if there are deductions they will be from the start of next season. If we’d have curtailed, Wigan would also be in that boat. I don’t think you can have an amnesty on deductions as doing so allows the system to be gamed. However, you have to have regard to the current circumstances For that reason, I’d guess any deduction will be held over until next year. Either way, it could be a legal mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 Usual deadline for points to be applied for current season is in March, with the postponement unclear which season the points deduction will be applied to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Silvio Dante said: This. I would imagine we will see several L1 and L2 clubs go into administration in the break between seasons as the money runs out. I’d also think that if there are deductions they will be from the start of next season. If we’d have curtailed, Wigan would also be in that boat. I don’t think you can have an amnesty on deductions as doing so allows the system to be gamed. However, you have to have regard to the current circumstances For that reason, I’d guess any deduction will be held over until next year. Either way, it could be a legal mess. There may be no deduction for teams going into administration from covid. The rules allow for argument on unforeseen circumstances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 Cook on the cheap would be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: There may be no deduction for teams going into administration from covid. The rules allow for argument on unforeseen circumstances Agree - but it’s proveability here. If I’m right, the Wigan takeover only occurred recently - start of last month. It’s difficult to argue that the admin was due to COVID when the takeover parties, assumedly having done due diligence, took over less than a month before the admin and knew the scenario. Arguing down to COVID when you’ve bought the club during the lockdown looks fishy to say the least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red panda Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 Some pretty undignified comments on this thread. Imagine if the boot was on the other foot (though many might welcome the suggestion of another club nicking our current manager). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 To be applied at end of season, if Wigan were in bottom 3 it wouldn't apply and would apply next season, if they finish outside bottom 3 (damn likely) it will be applied this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 Gone into administration apparently. I'm assuming with the 12 point deduction that will put them in relegation trouble though with their current form they should be ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco Rojo Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 ...and docked 12 points! Would this make Cook more likely to want to leave rather than manage back in League 1? https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53247333 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 Just now, Loco Rojo said: ...and docked 12 points! Would this make Cook more likely to want to leave rather than manage back in League 1? Don't think they'll be going down, 4/6 games left are favourable for picking up points against the others at the bottom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco Rojo Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 Just now, hodge said: Don't think they'll be going down, 4/6 games left are favourable for picking up points against the others at the bottom It's a great motivation for the players now isn't it? May have been thinking they were clear of relegation compared to other teams bow them and now they're sucked right back in to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 EFL statement on the matter. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eb1ymftXYAASIUe?format=jpg&name=large Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoSheds Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 hour ago, The Gasbuster said: Points deduction THIS season ? Minus 12 points takes them to the bottom of the championship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.