Ska Junkie Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: Don't thing they are listed, very few football teams are these days, they are worth what someone is stupid enough to buy the debts for! It was his company that were listed and saw a spike in share price as I read it BR, rather than Wigan Athletic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 37 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Plus I like Jamal Lowe. Morsy decent, but probably not top 6/8? Shows how good an eye Cook has as @Harrymentioned. Dig out and screenshot Harry’s post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSMRobin Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 Isn't there meant to be some fit and proper checks before allowing someone to control a professional football club? Surely with proper checks concerns would've been raised to prevent this situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coppello Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Redwhitepurple said: I can't take a story typed up in 140words on Twitter serious It’s written in more than 140 words and is based largely on official documentation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Maesknoll Red Posted July 5, 2020 Admin Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 28 minutes ago, WSMRobin said: Isn't there meant to be some fit and proper checks before allowing someone to control a professional football club? Surely with proper checks concerns would've been raised to prevent this situation? It’s something like: EFL: “Have you ever been committed of a crime, apart from parking and speeding tickets ?” Dodgy Owner with a past shadier than a ring of willow trees: “No, not me” EFL: “That’s fine, you’ve passed with flying colours” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: Dig out and screenshot Harry’s post. Cheers Dave. Took me ages writing that up and it got lost on a multi-page thread that’s probably on page 5 now since LJ went Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, Harry said: Cheers Dave. Took me ages writing that up and it got lost on a multi-page thread that’s probably on page 5 now since LJ went Saved for when he gets appointed and he turns out crap!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendip City Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: Dig out and screenshot Harry’s post. He’s exactly who we should be after, sounds perfect. But.... sadly you’ve just written him out of the running.... we won’t be appointing a manager who can spot a player.... that would be an old fashioned, non-trendy model. We’ve got MA and a recruitment team to do that. It also suggests there’s no way his face could ever fit in the current regime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 did nobody look at the loan agreement that set me off on on a rant that woke the wife up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 Now a load of their recruitment staff have been laid off, ******* disgrace what’s going on up there, EFL should have to cover wages for those laid off as a result of their **** up as far as I’m concerned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 In fact its apparently about 50% of non playing staff, bloody hell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 32 minutes ago, hodge said: Now a load of their recruitment staff have been laid off, ******* disgrace what’s going on up there, EFL should have to cover wages for those laid off as a result of their **** up as far as I’m concerned I think if the EFL had any inkling that the new buyer was going to spend circa 41m on buying the club, undertaking the 28mil debt etc and then immediately pull the plug, they would have blocked the sale and called in the men* with white coats. It makes no logical sense. *Other genders, including fluid may be summoned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: I think if the EFL had any inkling that the new buyer was going to spend circa 41m on buying the club, undertaking the 28mil debt etc and then immediately pull the plug, they would have blocked the sale and called in the men* with white coats. It makes no logical sense. *Other genders, including fluid may be summoned. Their fit and proper persons test isn't comprehensive enough its basically 'have you committed a crime? Do you have the finances to take over? Has a business gone under that you owned?' They also don't require owners to place a bond (or something similar) as a way to make sure finances and staff etc are secure. If prospective owners had to place a years costs aside upon takeover jobs and the club could be protected against situations like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, hodge said: Their fit and proper persons test isn't comprehensive enough its basically 'have you committed a crime? Do you have the finances to take over? Has a business gone under that you owned?' They also don't require owners to place a bond (or something similar) as a way to make sure finances and staff etc are secure. If prospective owners had to place a years costs aside upon takeover jobs and the club could be protected against situations like this. I agree the test appears sketchy at best, but I wonder if the alternative in many instances is that the club in question goes to the wall, so the EFL gambles that the person actually will be fit and proper ? I can't imagine them queuing around the block to buy Wigan, but a bond would be a good way to test the true intent of some potential owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, hodge said: Their fit and proper persons test isn't comprehensive enough its basically 'have you committed a crime? Do you have the finances to take over? Has a business gone under that you owned?' They also don't require owners to place a bond (or something similar) as a way to make sure finances and staff etc are secure. If prospective owners had to place a years costs aside upon takeover jobs and the club could be protected against situations like this. I Really think some option along those lines has to come in. If you want to cover losses then you have to ringfence the money with the “EFL” who will deposit it at a nominal rate of interest. If you don’t like it, don’t make losses, or don’t invest in football clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, hodge said: Their fit and proper persons test isn't comprehensive enough its basically 'have you committed a crime? Do you have the finances to take over? Has a business gone under that you owned?' They also don't require owners to place a bond (or something similar) as a way to make sure finances and staff etc are secure. If prospective owners had to place a years costs aside upon takeover jobs and the club could be protected against situations like this. Lodging money with the EFL would be a good thing, I agree. But that then makes clubs in financial distress all the more difficult to sell, not all owners would be able to raise that sort of money. But i agree that something needs to be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Natchfever said: I agree the test appears sketchy at best, but I wonder if the alternative in many instances is that the club in question goes to the wall, so the EFL gambles that the person actually will be fit and proper ? I can't imagine them queuing around the block to buy Wigan, but a bond would be a good way to test the true intent of some potential owners. Atm there are apparently 10 interested parties for Wigan so luckily they don't appear to be dead and buried as a club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 A point of view. For years , FIFA took the piss and they thought they were untouchable. They didn't figure on the yanks coming along and derailing the gravy train. Football needs to look at what the yanks did and replicate it when shit like this happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 I've said it before (most recently during the Bury fiasco) and I'll say it again it's about time the Government instructed the National Audit Office to undertake an in-depth analysis of football finances, with particular reference to those fit and proper to run clubs. A report with mandated recommendations should be enacted by the departments responsible for media, culture and sport and local communities and regional government. Today's football clubs are not just commercial sport enterprises but are a vital local community amenity. We may not be able to do anything about the endemic corruption inherent in FIFA, UEFA and the other football confederations, which handle more brown envelopes than the Post Office, but we could and should be doing something about football in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin101 Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 I'm glad we won tonight for our own sake, but I'm also pleased we could do Wigan a small favour too. It was announced earlier that Wigan will be deducted 12 points if they finish outside the bottom three. This effectively leaves them 4 points from safety with 4 games to go. There seems to be every chance they've been deliberately sabotaged by their own board. To me, it seems an injustice that they - that is, the fans, players, staff - should be relegated. They're certainly fighting hard. I wish them every luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 Agreed - good luck to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 They have a good manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 **** yeh. I was arguably just as pleased with their result as ours. I hope they manage it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 Yes but only because I'd rather one of Huddersfield, Stoke or Boro go down. Looking unlikely though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuber Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 Wigan are the sort of team the EFL should have some leniency with, as they're attempting to abide by FFP and have been fudged by the EFL's own fit and proper test. Postpone it at the very least to the following season until it's resolved in lieu of COVID. Villa, Derby, Reading, and the other gambling scum however... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winsaw Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 I think any proper football fan would want them to say up, after what has happened to them with there owner, it's a nightmare for any supporter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 If it isn't Bristol City, I'm not bothered, honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 They're a small club that have punched above their weight for a while now and the lower leagues is where they belong. But, what's happened to them is a travesty and they absolutely deserve to stay up. I actually hope the FA shows leniency and doesn't penalise them for something that's not been their own making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, TBW said: If it isn't Bristol City, I'm not bothered, honestly. Robbored? Is that you in there?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judda Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 Didn't they buy their success like an u Chelsea and man c but in a lesser way (like fulham)....? Hopefully we'll be on the list soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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