Selred Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 Ashton is terrific and getting good deals, however he is a salesman, not a football man. Why did he sign Palmer when we had Pato, Szmodics etc and don't play with CAM anyway? Surely he should of been asking the plan and getting players in who could play that. A plan and an identity need to run through the club, and if not then he should of been asking why not. Sorry but not good enough in my opinion for someone in his role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, stoke giiford red said: Did he not appoint LJ? Not so sure tbh, arrived after Cotts had been sacked and 20 ish days before Lee was appointed, think Lee could have been a SL appointment with Mark going along with it. This time in theory will be Mark leading the search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 Anyone who witnessed him at the supporters meeting after they raised disabled and kids ST prices a few years ago will know what a slimeball he is. He is a major reason why I cannot bring myself to attend anymore. Mr Corporate. Not for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Welcome To The Jungle said: Anyone who witnessed him at the supporters meeting after they raised disabled and kids ST prices a few years ago will know what a slimeball he is. He is a major reason why I cannot bring myself to attend anymore. Mr Corporate. Not for me What did he do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winsaw Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 I think there are a lot of other Bristol sport people along with Ashton who need to be gone , this is a good chance to get back to being a football club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NcnsBcfc Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 15 minutes ago, GrahamC said: 100% should go as well. His scattergun approach to transfers is every bit as much an issue as the now departed head coach. Willing to bet that he doesn’t, though. Big call though Graham by the Lansdowns to let MA go. Will the Sports village planning application going in soon. JL is basically a puppet chairman; and not up to running the club. SL obviously wanted to take a step back, and have someone in to run Bristol Sport for him. Its not just City with MA. Its the rugby, basketball, womens football etc. Maybe a director of football rather than MA; would be a better option. An expensive one though, as there's not too many good ones out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mr X said: What did he do? Attempted to justify the decision, but he did so in a cold and callous manner. He clearly sees fans as pound coins and not fans. A trait he shares with Mr Lansdown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 22 minutes ago, Redwhitepurple said: Anyone can do that ffs. Hes been just as bad as johnson. Bye bye Ashton Ok ..........lets see you do it then? Looking forward to you putting in your CV, you keyboard warrior you........Ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloudyThatchers Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 12 minutes ago, hodge said: Not so sure tbh, arrived after Cotts had been sacked and 20 ish days before Lee was appointed, think Lee could have been a SL appointment with Mark going along with it. This time in theory will be Mark leading the search. https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11726/10157839/lee-johnson-appointed-bristol-city-manager MA recommended to the board to appoint LJ as manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 1 minute ago, stoke giiford red said: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11726/10157839/lee-johnson-appointed-bristol-city-manager MA recommended to the board to appoint LJ as manager Fair enough, 1 appointment and in on the whole 1 generally successful appointment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 34 minutes ago, GrahamC said: 100% should go as well. His scattergun approach to transfers is every bit as much an issue as the now departed head coach. Willing to bet that he doesn’t, though. His next appointment will be telling. Not easy to get it right, but we must have a manager that doesn’t feel like a cheap option or a mate. 20 minutes ago, hodge said: Not so sure tbh, arrived after Cotts had been sacked and 20 ish days before Lee was appointed, think Lee could have been a SL appointment with Mark going along with it. This time in theory will be Mark leading the search. Ashton arrived well before Cotts was fired (in about the Nov), starting to manoeuvre things behind the scenes. Cotts threw out all of Ashton’s recruitment stuff on arrival. It was never gonna end well for Cotts with MA coming in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted July 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 For how many seasons will we now pay LJ. 3? 4? I know he is just a puppet but so is LJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatalist Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 37 minutes ago, bristolcitysweden said: Kelly and Brownhill sold themselves. For peanuts. Nothing to do with Ashton. Blimey! How much do you have to pay for a bag of peanuts in Sweden? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted July 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Fatalist said: Blimey! How much do you have to pay for a bag of peanuts in Sweden? Both players wanted to leave and for a prem club it was not even peanuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redrascal2 Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 1 hour ago, bristolcitysweden said: Not only Lee Johnson need to go for a fresh start. Ashton out. Disagree. He got the players well enough it was Johnson who failed miserably to make the best use of them. He needs to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 My feeling is if we want the right man, i.e. Hughton, they won’t work under the current set up and would want full control so something will have to give Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 1 hour ago, BigTone said: How is his approach scattergun ? He doesn't pick the transfers but just makes it happen. Ashton is in charge of the whole recruitment philosophy. He does pick the transfers and makes them happen. 1 hour ago, stoke giiford red said: Did he not appoint LJ? 55 minutes ago, hodge said: Not so sure tbh, arrived after Cotts had been sacked and 20 ish days before Lee was appointed, think Lee could have been a SL appointment with Mark going along with it. This time in theory will be Mark leading the search. 41 minutes ago, stoke giiford red said: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11726/10157839/lee-johnson-appointed-bristol-city-manager MA recommended to the board to appoint LJ as manager 39 minutes ago, hodge said: Fair enough, 1 appointment and in on the whole 1 generally successful appointment Ashton had absolutely no say in LJ arriving. LJ was SL’s man all the way. Ashton came aboard in December, a month before LJ arrived, but the appointment of LJ was 100% SL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 1 hour ago, BigTone said: How is his approach scattergun ? He doesn't pick the transfers but just makes it happen. Signing Watkins & Adelakun when we only needed one player. Signing Szmodics & Palmer in the same window when we already had Paterson. You are absolving him of responsibility, he has signed a lot of mediocre shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 1 hour ago, BigTone said: And again I'm sorry because i think you are even further off beam with that one Pubs have been open in Sweden for some time Tone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 38 minutes ago, bristolcitysweden said: For how many seasons will we now pay LJ. 3? 4? I know he is just a puppet but so is LJ. I’d be surprised if the termination clause was more than 12 months pay, or you get another job, whichever happens first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Selred said: Ashton is terrific and getting good deals, however he is a salesman, not a football man. Why did he sign Palmer when we had Pato, Szmodics etc and don't play with CAM anyway? Surely he should of been asking the plan and getting players in who could play that. A plan and an identity need to run through the club, and if not then he should of been asking why not. Sorry but not good enough in my opinion for someone in his role. We didn't play with a CAM but then again we didn't have an identity, we have chopped and changed formation like it's going out of fashion and we were crying out for an actual attacking mid. No offence to Patto but he's not that sit behind the strikers and create chances type of player, he's more influential by getting into the box himself and causing issues, Szmodics came after Palmer, not on a permanent but Palmer was on loan in January, Szmodics joined in July and I would hazard a guess that Szmodics is one for the future, Palmer was supposed to be the creative man to sit behind the striker/s straight away only LJ didn't use him that way. I'll be interested to see if this potentially saves us from losing Palmer and maybe Eliasson, I mean if a quality manager is appointed then I could see them sticking around to make a fresh push with a more experienced man leading them. If we get another yes man the chances are that we'll see both of them leave and I am very confident that Eliasson will be one that we'll kick ourselves for losing, Palmer very well could be as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 On what basis? Utter bollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 28 minutes ago, Harry said: Ashton is in charge of the whole recruitment philosophy. He does pick the transfers and makes them happen. Ashton had absolutely no say in LJ arriving. LJ was SL’s man all the way. Ashton came aboard in December, a month before LJ arrived, but the appointment of LJ was 100% SL. No he doesn't. The manager identifies his transfer targets and Ashton does the business Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, Spike said: We didn't play with a CAM but then again we didn't have an identity, we have chopped and changed formation like it's going out of fashion and we were crying out for an actual attacking mid. But MA had to push LJ, align on the approach for the season and buy the right players. He didn't. He bought all types of players and is part of the reason we now have a squad of many players and many formations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 29 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Signing Watkins & Adelakun when we only needed one player. Signing Szmodics & Palmer in the same window when we already had Paterson. You are absolving him of responsibility, he has signed a lot of mediocre shite. At the managers request Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Spike said: Genuine question, what has Mark Ashton done wrong? He worked with Lee Johnson because that was his job, he did not pick tactics, he did not deal with the players or pick the team, he has brought us great players and done amazing deals to ensure they'd join us. If anything I want Ashton to stay and let the new manager do his thing and when he needs help to land a deal that's where Ashton should step in and give the new manager less to deal with but ensure the player joins us. Seen our midfield recently- that’s down to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 Just now, BigTone said: At the managers request Sorry but LJ is not MA boss. MA is not a yes man signing whoever LJ wants, if so we'd have Bannan by now. They are a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 1 hour ago, joe jordans teeth said: Where is Hughton linked with a job here apart from on otib But that's the point. He is being linked on otib by the fans....when we sacked Millen the fans wanted Mcinnes, when we sacked him they wanted o',Driscoll......the fact fans are now calling for someone who has prem promotions as well as experience with multiple teams in prem shows how much we have grown Nd expectations have changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Redwhitepurple said: Totally agree. Blokes been more bad than good Quantify that, I bet you can’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 1 hour ago, bristolcitysweden said: For how many seasons will we now pay LJ. 3? 4? I know he is just a puppet but so is LJ. For someone to be a puppet there has to be a puppet master pulling the strings. In that case neither LJ or MA can be at fault because as puppets they have to dance to the masters tune. Is it the Lansdown's you really want rid of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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