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Who do you want as next City manager - Poll


Who do you want as next City manager - Poll  

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8 hours ago, Ronnie Sinclair said:

Clotet has left Birmingham 'with immediate effect' I see - wonder if this will mean competition for managerial appointments

Birmingham are a car crash of a club compared to City . 
We are a very attractive proposition and need to bring in a man capable of moving us up to the next level.

 

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9 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Remember SL is not a football expert.

Unlike the great and good who contribute on OTIB, our knowledge and expertise is limitless.

In such times our collective wisdom needs to be harnessed no appointment should be made  until a thread lasting at least 90 pages have discussed the pros and cons of the new man and consensus reached.

Then and only then should we see white smoke billowing from Ashton Gate  to herald a new dawn of our quest to conquer all before us and dominate world football.

 

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9 hours ago, Ronnie Sinclair said:

Clotet has left Birmingham 'with immediate effect' I see - wonder if this will mean competition for managerial appointments

Birmingham fans aren't setting their sights high a lot of them think Robbie Fowler will be appointed or Lee Carsley will get the job. 

Birmingham may once have been an attractive job but its not well run imo. Constantly fighting relegation, money issues, a stadium that is half filled on the best of days, problems with the owners. 

Compare that to us. An owner who is willing to give managers a chance, a stadium that is majority full on a bad day, fighting for the play offs. I'd say we are the more attractive offer between us an Birmingham (no offence to any Birmingham fans reading this). 

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Just now, Street red said:

Chris Hughton is still the stand out one from that list.. It's a no brainer and should be in the door by now ,But Mark Ashton and lansdown don't know what they want. 

 

It does seem totally obvious and yet I can envisage an appointment that ends up with everyone head scratching.................or Michael Appleton.

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If time is not of the essence it always makes sense to interview shortlisted candidates for top appointments, but like Mark Ashton I have been involved in plenty of recruitment exercises for such jobs, albeit in a different field, and this approach sometimes means that you fail to get the best candidate. If one individual is outstanding, you risk them being headhunted by another employer whilst the process is going on (in my world because of the grapevine, but in the City’s world courtesy of the media). Then again, that outstanding candidate will not find it particularly flattering to be subjected to a lengthy round of interviews for a job that they have already proved that they can do with another employer (particularly when their competition for that job is of the ‘up and coming’ variety.) People who are very much in demand need to be fussed over a bit to make them warm to one employer rather than another.

I think that Chris Hughton with his two promotions to the top flight is an outstanding candidate for the City job and subjecting him to the type of recruitment process described by Mark Ashton runs the real risk that he will go elsewhere (e.g. Birmingham City to name but one). If there is no-one else with a similar CV (which I doubt) we should contact him today and begin talks. He still might not join us because of concerns over Ashton’s role or funding issues but it would be a terrible mistake to lose the opportunity because we are slow off the mark. At the very least, let's tell him we want to talk to him to show we are interested, because we desperately need an experienced man at the helm.

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10 hours ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

So the MA cohorts you quoted and was just utter bull crap.

Yep- best leave me to it- love the bit about providing for your family though- if indeed you do!

That's quite rude, I think you should take that back. @Ska Junkie is a poster I've noticed for always being polite and respectful of others on here and doesn't deserve that.

 

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1 hour ago, phantom said:

Who was that with @Roadrunner?

This is latest with Skybet

 

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What I'd read into that is that the bookies have no firm leads - basically minimal movement (besides the usual random outliers) since he was sacked.

I'd imagine lots of the same names will feature on the odds for Birmingham too (Hughton, Karanka, Adkins, McCarthy, Jokanovic, Robins).

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10 hours ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

So the MA cohorts you quoted and was just utter bull crap.

Yep- best leave me to it- love the bit about providing for your family though- if indeed you do!

Uncalled for I think

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50 minutes ago, robc said:

If time is not of the essence it always makes sense to interview shortlisted candidates for top appointments, but like Mark Ashton I have been involved in plenty of recruitment exercises for such jobs, albeit in a different field, and this approach sometimes means that you fail to get the best candidate. If one individual is outstanding, you risk them being headhunted by another employer whilst the process is going on (in my world because of the grapevine, but in the City’s world courtesy of the media). Then again, that outstanding candidate will not find it particularly flattering to be subjected to a lengthy round of interviews for a job that they have already proved that they can do with another employer (particularly when their competition for that job is of the ‘up and coming’ variety.) People who are very much in demand need to be fussed over a bit to make them warm to one employer rather than another.

I think that Chris Hughton with his two promotions to the top flight is an outstanding candidate for the City job and subjecting him to the type of recruitment process described by Mark Ashton runs the real risk that he will go elsewhere (e.g. Birmingham City to name but one). If there is no-one else with a similar CV (which I doubt) we should contact him today and begin talks. He still might not join us because of concerns over Ashton’s role or funding issues but it would be a terrible mistake to lose the opportunity because we are slow off the mark. At the very least, let's tell him we want to talk to him to show we are interested, because we desperately need an experienced man at the helm.

I seem to remember we didn’t go into an interview process with LJ and he was announced very quickly.  

The fact we got rid of LJ before the end of the season gave the impression we were going to act quickly.  With Mark Ashton saying yesterday that we haven’t even spoken to anybody yet makes a fairly quick appointment seem less likely.

 It could be we’re just waiting a few days to see just who shows an interest, but if they haven’t by now, they aren’t going to.

Alternatively, I wonder if there are conflicting views within the club as to who is the best candidate for the post?  MA gave a clue to this yesterday, when he said there were discussions going on with SL about the various options

Ass you say, I really hope we don’t mess around and miss out on the best candidate.

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1 hour ago, robc said:

If time is not of the essence it always makes sense to interview shortlisted candidates for top appointments, but like Mark Ashton I have been involved in plenty of recruitment exercises for such jobs, albeit in a different field, and this approach sometimes means that you fail to get the best candidate. If one individual is outstanding, you risk them being headhunted by another employer whilst the process is going on (in my world because of the grapevine, but in the City’s world courtesy of the media). Then again, that outstanding candidate will not find it particularly flattering to be subjected to a lengthy round of interviews for a job that they have already proved that they can do with another employer (particularly when their competition for that job is of the ‘up and coming’ variety.) People who are very much in demand need to be fussed over a bit to make them warm to one employer rather than another.

I think that Chris Hughton with his two promotions to the top flight is an outstanding candidate for the City job and subjecting him to the type of recruitment process described by Mark Ashton runs the real risk that he will go elsewhere (e.g. Birmingham City to name but one). If there is no-one else with a similar CV (which I doubt) we should contact him today and begin talks. He still might not join us because of concerns over Ashton’s role or funding issues but it would be a terrible mistake to lose the opportunity because we are slow off the mark. At the very least, let's tell him we want to talk to him to show we are interested, because we desperately need an experienced man at the helm.

Good post, thanks.

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Ok. So up until now I have been pro Robins, because I like his style of football and because I have thought that he is the most promising candidate that may be prepared to work within the current system and specifically with Ashton, who incidentally I still can't decide whether I like or not.

But following the Lansdown interview on Talksport, which granted might just be soundbites and lip service, it does appear that he is alluding to somebody that can get us to the Premier, and it would be strange for him to do that if he wasn't thinking along the lines of someone that has already achieved it.

Maybe, just maybe this is also alluding to a shift change in the club. At the time I had an inside track on the working relationship with Cotterill, and it was no surprise to me that they wanted somebody completely opposite as his successor. But maybe this last four years has taught them that they went too far the other way. I certainly hope so.

First and foremost, I want to be entertained again. I want exciting football again. 

So I would now say that out of the candidates that have achieved what we now wish for, I would be hesitant with McCarthy as I think he would be too far back towards Cotterill in terms of personality (fine with me, but I won't have to work with him), and I would also be hesitant with Hughton as the overall consensus doesn't seem able to decide whether the football would be great or more of the same dross that we are all sick of.

So in summary, if we truly are going to go for it, let's go balls out and get Jokanovic here.

If we are not, I still think that the best (or least worst) candidate is Robins.

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3 hours ago, BrizzleRed said:

I seem to remember we didn’t go into an interview process with LJ and he was announced very quickly.  

The fact we got rid of LJ before the end of the season gave the impression we were going to act quickly.  With Mark Ashton saying yesterday that we haven’t even spoken to anybody yet makes a fairly quick appointment seem less likely.

 It could be we’re just waiting a few days to see just who shows an interest, but if they haven’t by now, they aren’t going to.

Alternatively, I wonder if there are conflicting views within the club as to who is the best candidate for the post?  MA gave a clue to this yesterday, when he said there were discussions going on with SL about the various options

Ass you say, I really hope we don’t mess around and miss out on the best candidate.

Rule no1....don’t believe everything that Mark Ashton says.  The fact that SL says he wants someone in before the end of the season means they are acting now.  It wouldn’t surprise me to see an appointment early next week.

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4 hours ago, BrizzleRed said:

I seem to remember we didn’t go into an interview process with LJ and he was announced very quickly.  

The fact we got rid of LJ before the end of the season gave the impression we were going to act quickly.  With Mark Ashton saying yesterday that we haven’t even spoken to anybody yet makes a fairly quick appointment seem less likely.

 It could be we’re just waiting a few days to see just who shows an interest, but if they haven’t by now, they aren’t going to.

Alternatively, I wonder if there are conflicting views within the club as to who is the best candidate for the post?  MA gave a clue to this yesterday, when he said there were discussions going on with SL about the various options

Ass you say, I really hope we don’t mess around and miss out on the best candidate.

There was a 22 day gap between Cotterill being sacked and LJ being appointed.

Actually a longer period than I thought was the case & if repeated would mean this season was over before we make this appointment.

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5 hours ago, robc said:

If time is not of the essence it always makes sense to interview shortlisted candidates for top appointments, but like Mark Ashton I have been involved in plenty of recruitment exercises for such jobs, albeit in a different field, and this approach sometimes means that you fail to get the best candidate. If one individual is outstanding, you risk them being headhunted by another employer whilst the process is going on (in my world because of the grapevine, but in the City’s world courtesy of the media). Then again, that outstanding candidate will not find it particularly flattering to be subjected to a lengthy round of interviews for a job that they have already proved that they can do with another employer (particularly when their competition for that job is of the ‘up and coming’ variety.) People who are very much in demand need to be fussed over a bit to make them warm to one employer rather than another.

I think that Chris Hughton with his two promotions to the top flight is an outstanding candidate for the City job and subjecting him to the type of recruitment process described by Mark Ashton runs the real risk that he will go elsewhere (e.g. Birmingham City to name but one). If there is no-one else with a similar CV (which I doubt) we should contact him today and begin talks. He still might not join us because of concerns over Ashton’s role or funding issues but it would be a terrible mistake to lose the opportunity because we are slow off the mark. At the very least, let's tell him we want to talk to him to show we are interested, because we desperately need an experienced man at the helm.

The think is we don't know who the outstanding candidate is, CH would be great but we might have other great applicants who can't go public at this time, we might have a target it mind who would be equally impressive. 

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