LondonBristolian Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 Just now, spasmcasm said: And the relevance of this to his potential appointment is? For 99.9% of us it's totally irrelevant. Just no need to go there. Are you in some way suggesting that because of his left wing views he may choose not to work for a capitalist like SL? because if you are that's pretty extreme even for OTIB. I suppose the one thing that might have a tiny influence is that it might make him feel more confident about living and working in Bristol. It's easier to live and work somewhere where most people aren't a million miles away from you politically and so you don't constantly need to watch yourself to avoid inadvertently starting a political debate with your neighbours from a passing comment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 1 minute ago, LondonBristolian said: No complaints from me either! Just don't think it is that significant in a managerial appointment. Agreed, but joking apart, a social conscience wouldn't be a bad trait to look for in the leader of a community organisation in the middle of a pandemic and recession. This isn't going to be a conventional time to be leading a football club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philly The Kid Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Red Exile said: ....have you seen the 'Politics' forum?! I don't mix politics with sport. Asking for trouble. I've no interest in anyone's politics as long as they're not Nazis or extremists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 Just now, spasmcasm said: I don't mix politics with sport. Asking for trouble. I've no interest in anyone's politics as long as they're not Nazis or extremists. Me neither...but if you venture into the politics forum you'll find both! 3 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said: I suppose the one thing that might have a tiny influence is that it might make him feel more confident about living and working in Bristol. It's easier to live and work somewhere where most people aren't a million miles away from you politically and so you don't constantly need to watch yourself to avoid inadvertently starting a political debate with your neighbours from a passing comment... Bristol and Brighton aren't so very different in that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philly The Kid Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said: I suppose the one thing that might have a tiny influence is that it might make him feel more confident about living and working in Bristol. It's easier to live and work somewhere where most people aren't a million miles away from you politically and so you don't constantly need to watch yourself to avoid inadvertently starting a political debate with your neighbours from a passing comment... For the money he's on, he doesn't have to live in Brizzle if he's not comfortable. Anyway, everyone loves Bristol. Once they come here they don't seem to want to leave!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Redrascal2 said: I would have thought that a short list would have been drawn up and those applicants on it out of work would have had a formal interview within 3 weeks. Then you have never tried to employ someone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 17 minutes ago, Lez said: Hughton is a lefty always has been quite far left I believe. Probably matured with age. So he’s a bit like a good cheese and red wine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 18 minutes ago, Lez said: Hughton is a lefty always has been quite far left I believe. Probably matured with age. And you are a .... What has a persons political belief got to do with their ability to do the job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 20 minutes ago, Lez said: Hughton is a lefty always has been quite far left I believe. Probably matured with age. 414 career appearances at Left Back. Yep, he was definitely a lefty. Full backs tended to hug the touch line more in those days, so yes, you could say he was quite far left. Re : maturing with age - I don’t think he’d do a good job there now, at 61. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 While I am pleased to find he supports the Labour Party I have to agree with other posters that his personal politics are totally irrelevant to his ability to be a football head coach. Ian Botham is a raging BoJo supporting Tory but it didn't stop me passionately cheering for him when playing for Somerset and England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 Just now, RoystonFoote'snephew said: While I am pleased to find he supports the Labour Party I have to agree with other posters that his personal politics are totally irrelevant to his ability to be a football head coach. Ian Botham is a raging BoJo supporting Tory but it didn't stop me passionately cheering for him when playing for Somerset and England. Agree. Although when he told me to F off when I was 10 after I asked for his autograph when he came back with Worcester made me change my mind ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 16 minutes ago, spasmcasm said: And the relevance of this to his potential appointment is? For 99.9% of us it's totally irrelevant. Just no need to go there. Are you in some way suggesting that because of his left wing views he may choose not to work for a capitalist like SL? because if you are that's pretty extreme even for OTIB. Once a red, always a red? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 26 minutes ago, Lez said: Hughton is a lefty always has been quite far left I believe. Probably matured with age. Hopefully one day you will as well, you absolute danger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renaissance Williams Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, Harry said: 414 career appearances at Left Back. Yep, he was definitely a lefty. Full backs tended to hug the touch line more in those days, so yes, you could say he was quite far left. Re : maturing with age - I don’t think he’d do a good job there now, at 61. Ah - now I understand what he meant by a “lefty”. I think it could actually be an asset when coaching our left flank. One more reason for appointing him...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeneys Penalties Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 Haven't felt this good about a (potential) manager since Coppell. If it all goes the same way I will not be happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Eddie Notgetinya said: Yeah but somehow they always have good names showing interest in the job so their mad man of an owner isn’t enough to put people off Sackings aside, they're quite well run in some other aspects. Big club too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 31 minutes ago, spasmcasm said: I've no interest in anyone's politics as long as they're not Nazis or extremists. Pretty sure the Nazi’s were extremists mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philly The Kid Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 1 minute ago, CyderInACan said: Pretty sure the Nazi’s were extremists mind Obs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat Fastard Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, CyderInACan said: Pretty sure the Nazi’s were extremists mind An extreme version of socialism. They called themselves national socialists - but none of this has anything to do with the discussion in hand. On his interview he says he was a right footed left back. My concern is that if he keeps the same coaches then they will all be ex-full backs, At least we should end up with a tight defence. In the long interview posted earlier he said he was an attacking full back. Would he play Hunty or Pedro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Bat Fastard said: An extreme version of socialism. They called themselves national socialists - but none of this has anything to do with the discussion in hand. On his interview he says he was a right footed left back. My concern is that if he keeps the same coaches then they will all be ex-full backs, At least we should end up with a tight defence. In the long interview posted earlier he said he was an attacking full back. Would he play Hunty or Pedro? Pedro has left. Will he return now? Must be up for discussion but certainly not for the pre agreed fee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 49 minutes ago, Red Exile said: This fascinates me. Why is managerial stability a good thing if it doesn't lead to success? If we had had 6 different managers in the past 4 years, had played sumptuous football and were comfortably established as a Premier League club, would the number of managers matter? I ask because managerial stability was often cited as a positive in not getting rid of LJ, no matter how we were performing. I'd have sacked him a couple of years ago...I think we'd be in a better position of we had. Exactly. We have done it in different ways but guess what? They have finished higher every season since LJ was appointed as well. Job security or not it comes down to identifying talent and securing it. We have done that with Tammy, Webster, Brownhill etc. Forest have a bigger budget so can buy more experienced players but have supplemented with their academy(Worrall, Cash, Brereton, Burke). Don’t get me wrong a manager is worth points but we have seen good managers not succeed because of poor recruitment. I think Hughton makes this team better. Perhaps top 6 but to finish automatic it is down to who he would be allowed to bring in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 One reservation I have with Hughton is 4-4-2, if he insists on playing this in the traditional format. How will this fit in with this level in 2020? This was a recurring theme (and a recurring moan by me ) post the return. Hard working or not, the basic issue is when we line up vs a fairly orthodox 4-2-3-1. Full backs v wingers. Duel. Wingers v full backs. Duel. CM 2 v CM 2. Duel. So far, so negated. Our two strikers vs their two CBs. Their CAM and Striker v our two CBs. A possible issue which arises is the movement of the CAM between the lines, can break the lines. This leaves a spare man at CB for us but if the movement of the CAM is good, then either a CM has to drop to track thereby unbalancing the CM and seeing us outnumbered. Or a CB has to step out to help, opening up the risk of a quick break outnumbering us at the back. Further, that structure of 4-2-3-1 enables triangles triangles that can play past and around the more orthodox 4-4-2, provided that's the version Hughton would go with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 Log back in after a hour . Threads gone to rat shit . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 10 minutes ago, Bat Fastard said: An extreme version of socialism. They called themselves national socialists - but none of this has anything to do with the discussion in hand. On his interview he says he was a right footed left back. My concern is that if he keeps the same coaches then they will all be ex-full backs, At least we should end up with a tight defence. In the long interview posted earlier he said he was an attacking full back. Would he play Hunty or Pedro? Certainly used to get up and down....fit as a flea. Looks like he’s looked after himself too. Wouldn’t surprise me if DH or JM was offered u23 job, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, Red Exile said: ....have you seen the 'Politics' forum?! Don't forget my conspiracy thread if anyone wants to claim that Hughton's appointment would be a covert infiltration by Antifa... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, Bat Fastard said: An extreme version of socialism. They weren't socialists, and Hitler hated the term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat Fastard Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Roger Red Hat said: They weren't socialists, and Hitler hated the term. Maybe you need to do a bit more research. I can lend you the book if you are interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 Just now, Bat Fastard said: Maybe you need to do a bit more research. I can lend you the book if you are interested. No, I'm ok thanks. Nazi's weren't socialists, they actively fought them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cider red Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Roger Red Hat said: No, I'm ok thanks. Nazi's weren't socialists, they actively fought them! Correct. To call Nazis socialist shows a lack of understanding of the term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat Fastard Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, Roger Red Hat said: They weren't socialists, and Hitler hated the term. Not the place for this discussion. This is a football forum - but suggest you read further into the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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