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Just now, spasmcasm said:

And the relevance of this to his potential appointment is?
For 99.9% of us it's totally irrelevant. Just no need to go there.
Are you in some way suggesting that because of his left wing views he may choose not to work for a capitalist like SL? because if you are that's pretty extreme even for OTIB.

I suppose the one thing that might have a tiny influence is that it might make him feel more confident about living and working in Bristol. It's easier to live and work somewhere where most people aren't a million miles away from you politically and so you don't constantly need to watch yourself to avoid inadvertently starting a political debate with your neighbours from a passing comment...

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1 minute ago, LondonBristolian said:

No complaints from me either! Just don't think it is that significant in a managerial appointment.

Agreed, but joking apart, a social conscience wouldn't be a bad trait to look for in the leader of a community organisation in the middle of a pandemic and recession. This isn't going to be a conventional time to be leading a football club.

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Just now, spasmcasm said:

I don't mix politics with sport. Asking for trouble.
I've no interest in anyone's politics as long as they're not Nazis or extremists.

Me neither...but if you venture into the politics forum you'll find both!

3 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said:

I suppose the one thing that might have a tiny influence is that it might make him feel more confident about living and working in Bristol. It's easier to live and work somewhere where most people aren't a million miles away from you politically and so you don't constantly need to watch yourself to avoid inadvertently starting a political debate with your neighbours from a passing comment...

Bristol and Brighton aren't so very different in that regard.

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2 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said:

I suppose the one thing that might have a tiny influence is that it might make him feel more confident about living and working in Bristol. It's easier to live and work somewhere where most people aren't a million miles away from you politically and so you don't constantly need to watch yourself to avoid inadvertently starting a political debate with your neighbours from a passing comment...

For the money he's on, he doesn't have to live in Brizzle if he's not comfortable.
Anyway, everyone loves Bristol. Once they come here they don't seem to want to leave!!

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1 hour ago, Redrascal2 said:

I would have thought that a short list would have been drawn up and those applicants on it out of work would have had a formal interview within 3 weeks. 

Then you have never tried to employ someone

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20 minutes ago, Lez said:

Hughton is a lefty always has been quite far left I believe. Probably matured with age.

414 career appearances at Left Back. 
Yep, he was definitely a lefty. 
Full backs tended to hug the touch line more in those days, so yes, you could say he was quite far left. 
Re : maturing with age - I don’t think he’d do a good job there now, at 61. 

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While I am pleased to find he supports the Labour Party I have to agree with other posters that his personal politics are totally irrelevant to his ability to be a football head coach. Ian Botham is a raging BoJo supporting Tory but it didn't stop me  passionately cheering for him when playing for Somerset and England. 

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Just now, RoystonFoote'snephew said:

While I am pleased to find he supports the Labour Party I have to agree with other posters that his personal politics are totally irrelevant to his ability to be a football head coach. Ian Botham is a raging BoJo supporting Tory but it didn't stop me  passionately cheering for him when playing for Somerset and England. 

Agree. Although when he told me to F off when I was 10 after I asked for his autograph when he came back with Worcester made me change my mind ?

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16 minutes ago, spasmcasm said:

And the relevance of this to his potential appointment is?
For 99.9% of us it's totally irrelevant. Just no need to go there.
Are you in some way suggesting that because of his left wing views he may choose not to work for a capitalist like SL? because if you are that's pretty extreme even for OTIB.

Once a red, always a red?

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5 minutes ago, Harry said:

414 career appearances at Left Back. 
Yep, he was definitely a lefty. 
Full backs tended to hug the touch line more in those days, so yes, you could say he was quite far left. 
Re : maturing with age - I don’t think he’d do a good job there now, at 61. 

Ah - now I understand what he meant by a “lefty”. I think it could actually be an asset when coaching our left flank. One more reason for appointing him......

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3 minutes ago, CyderInACan said:

Pretty sure the Nazi’s were extremists mind 

An extreme version of socialism. They called themselves national socialists - but none of this has anything to do with the discussion in hand.  On his interview he says he was a right footed left back.  My concern is that if he keeps the same coaches then they will all be ex-full backs,  At least we should end up with a tight defence. In the long interview posted earlier he said he was an attacking full back.  Would he play Hunty or Pedro?

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1 minute ago, Bat Fastard said:

An extreme version of socialism. They called themselves national socialists - but none of this has anything to do with the discussion in hand.  On his interview he says he was a right footed left back.  My concern is that if he keeps the same coaches then they will all be ex-full backs,  At least we should end up with a tight defence. In the long interview posted earlier he said he was an attacking full back.  Would he play Hunty or Pedro?

Pedro has left. Will he return now? Must be up for discussion but certainly not for the pre agreed fee

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49 minutes ago, Red Exile said:

This fascinates me. Why is managerial stability a good thing if it doesn't lead to success? If we had had 6 different managers in the past 4 years, had played sumptuous football and were comfortably established as a Premier League club, would the number of managers matter? I ask because managerial stability was often cited as a positive in not getting rid of LJ, no matter how we were performing. I'd have sacked him a couple of years ago...I think we'd be in a better position of we had.

Exactly. We have done it in different ways but guess what? They have finished higher every season since LJ was appointed as well. Job security or not it comes down to identifying talent and securing it.
 

We have done that with Tammy, Webster, Brownhill etc. Forest have a bigger budget so can buy more experienced players but have supplemented with their academy(Worrall, Cash, Brereton, Burke). 
 

Don’t get me wrong a manager is worth points but we have seen good managers not succeed because of poor recruitment. I think Hughton makes this team better. Perhaps top 6 but to finish automatic it is down to who he would be allowed to bring in

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One reservation I have with Hughton is 4-4-2, if he insists on playing this in the traditional format.

How will this fit in with this level in 2020? 

This was a recurring theme (and a recurring moan by me :laugh: ) post the return.

Hard working or not, the basic issue is when we line up vs a fairly orthodox 4-2-3-1.

Full backs v wingers. Duel. 

Wingers v full backs. Duel. 

CM 2 v CM 2. Duel.

So far, so negated.

Our two strikers vs their two CBs. 

Their CAM and Striker v our two CBs. 

A possible issue which arises is the movement of the CAM between the lines, can break the lines.

This leaves a spare man at CB for us but if the movement of the CAM is good, then either a CM has to drop to track thereby unbalancing the CM and seeing us outnumbered. 

Or a CB has to step out to help, opening up the risk of a quick break outnumbering us at the back.

Further, that structure of 4-2-3-1 enables triangles triangles that can play past and around the more orthodox 4-4-2, provided that's the version Hughton would go with.

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10 minutes ago, Bat Fastard said:

An extreme version of socialism. They called themselves national socialists - but none of this has anything to do with the discussion in hand.  On his interview he says he was a right footed left back.  My concern is that if he keeps the same coaches then they will all be ex-full backs,  At least we should end up with a tight defence. In the long interview posted earlier he said he was an attacking full back.  Would he play Hunty or Pedro?

Certainly used to get up and down....fit as a flea.  Looks like he’s looked after himself too.

Wouldn’t surprise me if DH or JM was offered u23 job,

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8 minutes ago, Red Exile said:

....have you seen the 'Politics' forum?! 

Don't forget my conspiracy thread if anyone wants to claim that Hughton's appointment would be a covert infiltration by Antifa...

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