Olé Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 I'm reliably informed that in literally the last few minutes the betting markets have gone crazy with people backing them for relegation at silly prices and silly money. This sort of thing doesn't happen without people having some advanced knowledge of something - I see nothing public but assume an announcement is imminent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
You Do The Dziekanowski Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Olé said: I'm reliably informed that in literally the last few minutes the betting markets have gone crazy with people backing them for relegation at silly prices and silly money. This sort of thing doesn't happen without people having some advanced knowledge of something - I see nothing public but assume an announcement is imminent. To make it fair they shouldn’t be deducted points, or Wigan for that matter. Instead we should just be given 9 points for the games we didn’t win against them. Only us though, no other teams. That’s fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coppello Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 @Mr Popodopolous will be on this thread in 3...2...1... Edit: I nailed it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 Here I am! Their fans seem to have been saying on forums that they are or will be found innocent. Seem fairly bullish on Owlstalk. However their hearing has been dragging on and on...so surely there is something in the works one way or another? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 Derby's accounts are overdue, speculation they're trying to delay them so they won't incur a points deduction for this season and can get in the play offs. Apparently overdue accounts even for football club, the fine is only £100, so what's racking up a few fines for overdue accounts to try and win £200m for promotion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 My understanding on that though I may be wrong is that the EFL so I've read have to get the accounts by start of March for the prior 2 seasons and the Projected for this at the same time., They're dragging it out though- these two clubs and especially last summer, Sheffield Wednesday really do. Another interesting thing about Derby is that there is a charge over Pride Park by Gabay's company. Wonder if promotion is quite important with respect to that- however with respect to Sheffield Wednesday @Olé's OP is most interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coppello Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Lrrr said: Derby's accounts are overdue, speculation they're trying to delay them so they won't incur a points deduction for this season and can get in the play offs. Apparently overdue accounts even for football club, the fine is only £100, so what's racking up a few fines for overdue accounts to try and win £200m for promotion If true, that's awful as they've already received a three month filing extension with Companies House which took them to the end of June. You would hope the punishment is a lot more severe for any club deliberately breaking the rules in this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Coppello said: If true, that's awful as they've already received a three month filing extension with Companies House which took them to the end of June. You would hope the punishment is a lot more severe for any club deliberately breaking the rules in this way. Well they've not had a date set yet and we're what 15 days from the last game being played? So they'd need to do the whole thing in less than a month to have it resolved before a play off game if Derby finish top 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Coppello said: If true, that's awful as they've already received a three month filing extension with Companies House which took them to the end of June. You would hope the punishment is a lot more severe for any club deliberately breaking the rules in this way. AFAIK, the EFL have the power to give a transfer embargo until such time as the accounts are submitted and done so satisfactorily. Unclear if that's to CH or the EFL though, the embargo thing. I'd dock points unless there's a very good reason. Sliding scale. Derby's structure is an interesting (well interesting in accounting terms anyway ) There's the club- "The Derby County Football Club Limited" Sevco 5112 Limited was the parent company/biggest in the group until last season I think. Now that is Gellaw Newco 203 Limited. Indeed, they created a number of companies that became active in 2016/17 I think called: Club DCFC Limited The Derby County FC Academy Limited Stadia DCFC Limited None- not one- of these have yet submitted. Sevco controls the bottom 3, Gellaw Newco 203 controls the football club and also controls Sevco 5112. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 I'll happily get back on the thread topic though- surely a verdict is on the way- case was stated to have begun 23rd June 2020! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 17 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: AFAIK, the EFL have the power to give a transfer embargo until such time as the accounts are submitted and done so satisfactorily. Unclear if that's to CH or the EFL though, the embargo thing. I'd dock points unless there's a very good reason. Sliding scale. Derby's structure is an interesting (well interesting in accounting terms anyway ) There's the club- "The Derby County Football Club Limited" Sevco 5112 Limited was the parent company/biggest in the group until last season I think. Now that is Gellaw Newco 203 Limited. Indeed, they created a number of companies that became active in 2016/17 I think called: Club DCFC Limited The Derby County FC Academy Limited Stadia DCFC Limited None- not one- of these have yet submitted. Sevco controls the bottom 3, Gellaw Newco 203 controls the football club and also controls Sevco 5112. Deliberately crepuscular. Or, they are so dumb, they think incorporating lots of companies is 'groovy man'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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